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Plum Crazy Purple? Gee, and I thought I left my 71' Plymouth Roadrunner in the garage! Sorry for leaving a stupid post. This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-15-2001 at 01:22 PM

Monty, No, your not seeing things. They're really there. Frightening but true. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 (In the Hospital) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable

A few more delays getting current pictures up on the BB. Today I sent Big Mac back to Audio Classics for repair. I talked to the service dept. and he said it may be a capacitor going south in it. Just hope it doesn't take too long. Wonder if they reimburse for return shipping. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 (In the Hospital) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable

Try http://www.cesweb.org . That should be it.

This may seem like a moot point but I would defenitely leave this person some ultra-negative feedback. This is what the smarter bidders (no, I'm not slamming you) are looking for. I don't doubt this person didn't leave any feedback for you! ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 (Carver C-1 for sale?) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable

I really shouldn't call it loud but when there is no music playing I can definitely tell it's there. I also noticed that the more I turn the loudness up the less hiss there is. Turned all the way up it doesn't totally go away but at the volume levels I usually have it at it seems a bit too much "loudness" anayway. BOA!- Tell me if I'm wrong about this. As I understand it the Fletcher and Munson curve is loudness at a set level that decreases as the volume is increased without touching the loudness control knob. Am I anywhere close? This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-14-2001 at 07:01 PM

Don't worry about it too much. Just sounds like the volume control is getting dirty. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 (Carver C-1 for sale?) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable

THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!! THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!! Well....those too but the Mac came today also. It fit right where it (had) to. The guy I dealt with at Audio Classics is Stephen Rowell. It really suprised me that it came with the original box, the panlock wall mount brackets and the original manual. UPS crunched one corner; I could tell because the packing tape that AC put on it was torn with the rounded corner. The first thing I did discover was that the loudness control puts a nasty rumbling hiss through the tweeters. I turned that off and just raised the bass on the eq a bit. So much for getting that declining curve with increasing the volume. With it off, however, the system is dead silent (YEA!!). I was in a hurry to get a picture posted so please excuse the sorry lookin' pic. I'll break out the Monster Minolta X700 later. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 (Carver C-1 for sale?) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-14-2001 at 12:26 AM

Jim, There's a few different places you can get this. Although I don't think the same stylus is available anymore. The closest thing would be a V15 Type VxMR for about $275. There's a couple of places I found in Stereophile magazine. There's http://www.needledoctor.com in Minnesota and http://www.acousticsounds.com in Kansas. They are priced the same. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany McIntosh C33 (Carver C-1 for sale?) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-15-2001 at 11:08 PM

BSR, Dual--man...I'm gonna be sick. Remember when DAK was a big thing in mail order? LOL This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-12-2001 at 04:39 PM

Boa, Sumpin' tells me you got an SL-1200 mkII. Those things a real tanks. If memory serves those will get up to speed in 1/4 of a turn of the platter! When I was in Audio retail about 20 years ago a co-worker claimed he had the "Ultimate" system. Yea, that's all opinion. Anyway he did tell me of a Pioneer turntable that you could lift the whole unit by it's tonearm! You could also put the table on the floor, stand on the platter and it would still get up to speed as (as long as you didn't loose your lunch!). ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable Stuff in storage: Technics SB-7's mains Technics SB-3's rears Yamaha NS-W2 sub Teac V-33 cassette Technics RSM-236 cassette dbx nx-40 dbx 3BX Series Two dbx 200 Carver MX-150 Numark EQ-2300 (LOL) Archer (Radio Shack) FM booster Enough boxes for a fire hazard.

Jim, Just remember, for every 3db of boosted signal you put into your tweeters you doubling the power input. Frightening but true. Sorry I can't help ya with the turntable. I have a "vintage" Yamaha PF-800 belt drive that sounds wounderfull. It's a traditional tone arm configuration with a distinct feature. The tonearm is actually two seperate pipes to/from the headshell. They seperated left and right channels so to keep the intermodulation of channels down to a minimum. If you want to look for something fun, a long time ago (20-25 years; yea I know this shows my age) there used to be upper scale turtables with up to four(4) tonearms in the same unit! This was so you could have a veriety of cartriges to suit your current listening taste. I have three for mine but I have to swap out the headshells when the notion moves me. Sure V15 Type V w/VN45HE stylus- Good all around sound and rather quick. Also the most worn out! Ortofon VMS-30 mkII- Still good range but for smoother "Barry White" evenings. Stanton 999SS- For when some of my oger friends come over to play their K-Tel era Slim Whitman's Favorite Yodleing Songs. Known as the Godzilla Bicept Claw. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-15-2001 at 11:03 PM

The Rotel RB-1080 amp I recently bought has a dampening factor of (get this) 1000. Funny, the only things I was really looking at was THD (.03% max at half rated power) and s/n ratio (116db to 120db depending on where you look). I must admit that I too had no idea what the dampening factor was but it's good to know I can grin when mine (or just place your name here) turns out to be a good one. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-11-2001 at 11:47 PM

Jim, O.k. The input (1-10) level is probably equal to the Threshold I mentioned before and the Expansion looks like it is measured in db increase increments. That expansion level is most likely gonna do the most damage if you use the unit. The LED level that is on it is probably in two different colors. The change in color denotes where it is makeing the signal quieter (left side?) and when it makes things louder. The point that the it goes from one color to another is the "Threshold" point. I haven't sold anythig on eBay either but it may be worth looking into. I think eBay gets 3% of the total selling price for the item. I thought I saw a few months ago a listing for one of these. Maybe not the exact model but it sounds very similar. I don't think it went for much more than $50. But still that's more than you paid. You may want to do a search on eBay to see if you can find the sale of that similar item. Just type in the make and model.

If this thing is a Dynamic Range Expander I'd be VERY careful using it. What it does is looks at passages in the program (music) and if they are quiet this thing will make the passage quieter. While on the other hand at stronger passeages it will make them louder. There should be two adjustments on there (I think). One is to control the "Threshold" in which you can tell it where you draw the line between what passages are quiet and which are stronger. Then there is an "Expansion" control. This will let you control the intensity of the unit's action (i.e.-o.k., we have a loud passage here. How much louder would you like to make it?). DBX put these units out for many years although I doubt your came from them. Probably a knockoff in the function and design. I'll get right to the part you may not want to hear. THESE THINGS ARE DEADLY TO KLIPSCH TWEETERS!!! I blew out three of them in my KLF-20's before I was convinced that my dbx 3BX Series Two was the problem. It worked fine in my system before I got the 20's since my old speaks had a sensitivity rating of about 80db (yechh!). But tweets in the Klipsch's are the weakest links in the chain. It doesn't take much distorted signal to fry-em. What the unit does is just increase power voltage (and distort the amps output signal) to the speakers and this is where it gets into trouble. It will over drive the amp to point of clipping. That is "clipping" off the peak of the sign wave and converting it into a very high pitched distortion signal. Which no speaker likes. Result? Over driven speakers with the weakest driver giving up the ghost. If you set this thing to very mild levels it MIGHT not hurt anything, but I wouldn't chance it. Anyway, at very mild levels you could probably barely tell it's working at all. Oh well, you could either keep it as a nastalgia piece or... there's always eBay! Good luck! ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-15-2001 at 10:59 PM

quote: Originally posted by DwK: Its a wire, with a (capaciter?) in the middle of it. It may be a filter of some sort to cut off lower frequencies below XXX Hz. Just a thought.

Yes. If not a screw, we used to use a plain ol' sewing pin. It may not look the same when you get it back out though using either method. There will probably be some creases where it folded during the initial crush. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable

quote: Originally posted by discorules: As usual, the point was missed with the tax analogy. Instead a non-sequetur Bush like response follows. What studies have you read that said the overwhelming majority of homeless choose this? Why do I get the feeling that this is "half a brain tied behind my back" rhetoric. I don't need a government funded/slanted misinterpretation called a study to arrive at the correct conclusion. I see it with my own two eyes and well functioning brain. Are you then saying that someone really did point a gun to their heads and force them to take illeagel drugs and massive amounts of alcohol? Get real. Just read in the paper today. The earnings floor is $12,000/year. This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-10-2001 at 03:47 PM

Mace, If the boomyness won't go away you may (if not already) want to try using the spikes if you have carpeted floors. Also, take a look at the equipment (cd player, amp, pre-amp, etc.). Make sure that there is plenty of isolation from vibrations. If you have the money and room to go with one of the aftermarket spike companies that's great. So far I took the cheap way out till I buy all the McIntosh I can (or can't) afford. I found in my basement a roll of very dense poly-propylene. It looks kinda like water pipe insulation. I cut it into 2"-3" circles and put that under each foot of each unit in the system. The highs and middle were much more defined and the bass did tighten up a bit. Good luck!! ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable

quote: Originally posted by discorules: The wealthy one contributed about 52% of the tax revenues. I hate it when someone refers to a mandate as a "contribution". Ever try not contributing to the IRS? Yea! Like it's optional! As far as the homeless goes. The overwhelming majority of them are that way by choice. Alcohol? Drugs? Insesive gambeling? I'd like to see just one homeless person that had a gun pointed at their head being forced to get into the position their in. Near my office there are quite a few "lifer" panhandlers. They'll give you the sad pleading voice try to get your money but when it comes to talking to other people (friends) a second later, the sad faces and any physical abnormalities are suddenly gone. Never gave to one, not going to. One actually went accross the street and got into his 2000 Buick and drove off.

MacKlipsch, you know I honestly don't remember who the guy was I delt with. That's very unlike me. This Sunday is the Concours D'Elegance Auto Show going on about ten miles from my house. If I don't use up all the film (sorry, not digital yet) I'll scan it in and post a shot of the almost finished system. Still can't believe this thing will have a little over $10 grand in it in MSRP. So please, see it within your hearts to give to the Neediest Tom's of All. Care of........ ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-09-2001 at 12:46 AM

quote: Originally posted by bensilb: The last time a Republican cut taxes we entered a depression. Are we ready for that again? That is a lot of money to give back to the people overall. Lets not forget the deficit caused by the last tax cut. Your right Ben, it's the taxpayer's money, what right do the people have to keep it?(sic) Along with every tax cut should also be an (at least) equal government spending cut for absurd special interest programs, which I believe do little more than continually line the pockets of members of congress and any non-member that had enough money to buy themselves their on personal politician. Why we get taxed twice on the same money we make is beyond me. We earn the money and get taxed by the feds, state (except a few) and local governments THEN taxed again by the state in the form of sales tax. A flat income tax of ten percent paying all gov't, state and local taxes sounds good to me. The more money I have (left) will enable me to buy more product, enable the state to collect more sales tax and allow me to have more of what I want or need. Whether it be material or not. Not to mention that spending that money also puts people to work. This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-09-2001 at 12:37 AM

Whoooaa!! That 225wpc number is continuous not the 800wpc.

Mace, From what I have heard (my 20's are only four months old) the mids and highs are supposed to get less brash over time. I can't say I've noticed a BIG difference and it's not something that happens all of the sudden. Your ears will get used to what they sound like now and will be constantly readjusting as playing time goes on because it is such a gradual process. I did talk to Trey (a wealth of information) in tech support and he says that they are plenty broke-in from the factory. Apart from that he also said that he believes the whole break-in thing is "Voodoo" (his word). If you have a real time alalyzer somewhere in your system you can always at a quick glance be able to make a comparison of what the meter says and what your hearing. This is very handy to determine if a driver is blown or a source signal sounds like it really reaks of any quality. I've found the best (and cheapest) thing to get the best sound from these monsters is experiment with speaker placement. This is helped enormously with the aid of an SPL meter(Sound Pressure Level). I have an old HH Scott 830z that I wouldn't part with for the world for this reason (as well as it being an RTA). A hand held model can be had from Radio Shack for about $35 but you have to be sure to have it in the same place as your ears will be while your in your favorite listening place, a camera tripod should work very well for this. Radio Shack is also a good source of 12ga. Monster speaker cable @ 50 cents a foot. If you want, I have made up an Excel sheet that can track the measurements and make a graph of the rooms resonance levels. It's very easy to use. The test may take a number of hours to do. When I did mine I turned the levels for the high-end way down as to not overheat the tweeters (the legend's weakest link). I also put on a pair of ear protection headphones to keep from getting tinnitus. Your room will more than likely have a different speaker position than mine but I found the highest SPL readings at 9 1/2" from both the back and side wall. Let me know!! ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable

I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!!! The waiting anyway. Today I broke down and called Audio Classics and ordered a C33 in excellent condition. Price, $1221 with shipping from NY to Cincinnati. Should be here by mid next week. Took a week off from work just to "play" with it. They tell me the 33 is the same as the 34 but the 34 has one phono input rather than two and something about needing an external box for video switching(?) So I guess now I can join the "Mac" club. The only esoteric thing I found was a different labeling of an input: C34V says "CD" while the C33 says "AUX". Tomato, Tomahto. The C34V also has a dedicated TV input unlike the C33 stcalwell: I may still have that resistor conversion done. Who knows, I may try it my self. I guess the last piece to get is a Monster Cable HTS5000 surge protector. ------------------ Tom KLF-20 Mahogany Carver C-1 (McIntosh C33 is coming!!) Rotel RB-1080 Yamaha PF-800 Turntable/ Sure V15 Type V Cartridge Ortofon VMS-30 Cartridge Stanton 999SS Cartridge Carver TL-3100 CD Yamaha K-1020 Cassette (maybe being mothballed) dbx 1231 EQ H.H. Scott 830z Analyzer Monster Interlink 400mk II Monster Interlink 300 mk II Studio Tech U-48RW Cabinet Original 12ga. Monster Cable This message has been edited by tblasing on 06-08-2001 at 05:17 PM