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I bought some AW-650 outdoor speakers quite a while ago and would like to get them installed.
Thought I'd ask here if anyone has ideas on where to mount outdoor speakers... directly on the eaves or up on the wall under the eaves? How close to outer walls? How far apart? I'm used to moving speakers and testing the results but since these have to be mounted and vinyl siding drilled this will be a "one and done" job. I want to get it right the first time!
I've marked on the picture where I was thinking of mounting them horizontal... roughly 10 feet of space between the speakers mounted to the wall directly under the eaves. I don't know yet if I can mount to the eaves directly as I haven't identified the location of the rafters. The wall might be the more solid mount anyway. I'm planning on placing the woofer towards the outside (near the next wall) so the tweeters are closer to the middle. If I mount them on the wall or on the eaves will affect how I can rotate and adjust to a certain extent. Note in the picture that the left wall is not 90 degrees and flares out.
Thoughts or comments?
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This might be a good way to get them at a great discount. Worth checking! Mine were quite "chippy" on the edges from years of sitting in a hot choir loft. Unless there are structural issues I wouldn't worry about it if everything else is good and you get a good price.
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The cool thing is that the tweeter and mid drivers would have hardly any use due to the attenuators cranking them way down.
A nice feature is the top is removable for easy access to the mid and tweeter. The bottom is still the access for the woofer.
This is the configuration my LaScalas came in from 1976.
The Rogers amps had a thin sheet of aluminum newspaper plate between the amp and the cabinet. You could see some the news of that day on the aluminum. I would have spent more time looking but the seller was keeping the amps and I wanted to get out of there before he changed his mind
The plywood of mine was a bit "chippy" from many years in a hot choir loft but nothing a little epoxy couldn't cure. These look nicer than mine.
You might show a more complete picture of the crossovers. They are easily converted to standard AA's
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2 hours ago, opusk2k9 said:
How would these be with the eliptrac mid horns?
Awesome!!
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I have to laugh at myself for wondering where I could put these even though I already have more than I can use. I'd appreciate the handles for sure though.
Look nice!
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While my original Heresy's still had the original caps there was nothing about the sound that I can really point out... maybe missing highs but not until I replaced the caps did I notice that is was like removing a blanket from the speakers. The music became more natural and real yet I thought it was sounding pretty good before. It is mostly in retrospect that I would say it was muffled a bit. Hear what you think!
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As you can see, there are lots of possible choices available! I'd definitely get rid of physically leaking caps. We seem to LOVE to have capacitor discussions around here but it's been rehashed quite a bit.
As far as sound memory... I'm not necessarily sure what parts of the experience I am remembering but I imagine it is systemic... not just memory of sound waves vibrating my eardrums. We might lose some various details but I think what is left of the whole is usually enough. Just because you forget some doesn't invalidate what you do remember. In the end, I just care how it makes me feel anyway.
I was surprised lately when I put my Sonicap capped AA networks back into my La Scalas. They hadn't been there for years but I've improved the placement of the speakers and worked on acoustic treatments over the years. It sounded far better than I remembered. Setup in the room matters a lot.
I have Jupiter VT caps (the old square style) in most of my crossovers which many would say is crazy $ to spend. My main system network is from Deang and has OIMP V-caps. I think you can probably be happy without spending nearly as much but my crossovers are here to stay.
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Yeah, we need some pictures
I have overpaid before... sometimes it's what you might choose to do instead of waiting months for the next opportunity to come along and who knows how far you might have to travel. Seriously, people around here have spent 100's on gas. The farthest I've gone was 4 hours away but worth it for $600 La Scalas. (yeah, they were a bit rough but not too bad). Waiting is a cost too in my opinion... life is short.
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I'm late to see this... sad to hear!
Bob was patient, kind, helpful and fair in my experience. I'm sure many more things.
Thoughts and prayers to his family and friends!
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On 2/13/2021 at 1:40 AM, Terriss said:
So, I’ve had a lovely surround set up with some reference premiere speakers for about 6 months now. Tonight, a very courageous young house mouse decided to brave the teeth and claws of my two cats and invade my kitchen. In the course of the chase it ran in the general direction of my SPL-150 subwoofer and is currently MIA. While my furry security system continues to hunt the home invader, do I need to worry about it running into the space at the bottom of the subwoofer and causing havoc on the inside? I didn’t see it run in there, but it would have been possible and I can’t tell if that space connects to the rest of the internals of the speaker or not.
For those of you who have disassembled these speakers, do I have anything to worry about?
Thanks in advance.
Crank it... the mouse will find it's way out.
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On 1/23/2021 at 9:28 PM, Rockrubber1 said:
Agreed. The wife hates how big they are. Her complaining ALMOST makes me regret buying them. Otherwise they’re the best sounding speakers I’ve ever had in my room.
How many things in your house did your wife choose? Geeeze... seems you could choose your speakers. I’m lucky my wife is a good sport!
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3 minutes ago, luddite said:
It was more I who was vague with the response. ManyMoons website says he rebuilds for the receiver to sound as it was originally designed. Other sites say the unit would be rebuilt to be as good or better than new. But that is in the eyes and ears of the restorer. I like the idea of a restoration as true to the original as possible.
I think he said the SX1250 was his first receiver growing up so he definitely knows what it is supposed to sound like. He doesn't do any boutique kind of stuff to things. He probably would if you asked him but he will tell you what he thinks.
I get what you are saying about staying true to the original... I remember some website selling old HH Scott amps that have had their tone controls all disconnected from the amp... I understand doing that on some equipment but I think that is where some of the magic happens on those old Scott amps.
Also, I am especially not a fan of the LED lit up with blue lights that some people like to put in their old receivers.
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Absolutely a great person to rebuild your SX1250 is Paul of http://www.manymoonsaudio.com/ @paul79
He has done multiple rebuilds for me including a beautiful SX1250! There is quite a backlog so I imagine it will be a long wait but he will replace everything needed with the best parts for the job and what you will get back is better than new. A 1250 is worth the effort.
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I played around some with raising them a small amount... it all sounded bad!
Among other things, I tried 2x4"s... 2 foot square sheets of plywood... Flat on the floor was best.
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Funny! Dad was a surgeon in Vietnam... he had said the same thing to patients.
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On 11/16/2020 at 9:05 AM, billybob said:
This is going to hurt me more than you...
Or the variation...
"This is going to hurt you a lot more than it's going to hurt me..."
I appreciate the honesty.
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Keep looking!
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I have only heard the mid so this is hearsay... I have heard complaints about the tweeter not meeting hopes or expectations. I would have tried it myself but was scared away by others who tried although there was someone here that was still using it... sorry I don't remember who.
The BMS mid is wonderful though, isn't it?!
Oh wait.. found the link with some info:
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"You know he knows just exactly what the facts is"
Steve Miller
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1 hour ago, tromprof said:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0122SZIYU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fit pretty much and size speaker wire, however screw not crimp, and will also take banana plugs. Nicely made too.
I use a lot of these! They are a little soft and easy to break but they make a good connection. I find putting the wire on first then attaching to the crossover to work a little easier.
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I've used the Sharpie trick with good success. I pushed it into the scratch so it was completely covered with ink. The finish was still glossy enough that I could immediately wipe the sharpie off the top edges of the scratch. You couldn't tell that what I'd done... from close up it just looked like a dark scratch that I could barely see.
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I resisted... it wasn't easy!
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This is always a good conversation!
Telarc has a lot of good recordings and anything from Sheffield Lab.
Cowboy Junkies - The Trinity Session
I have to say I enjoy the DVD version the most.
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I have horns with Dynamat and horns without... not really sure of the difference because there are other variables that are different. It's more important to have the horns mounted tightly. The screws will all loosen a bit over time so you might snug them down on the horns and woofer.
Also, for the older Heritage with removable backs/access panels I like to add some foam tape to the frame to help seal up the box. The screws go right through and you get a better seal. I think this was what I used: https://www.parts-express.com/parts-express-speaker-gasketing-tape-1-8-x-1-2-x-50-ft-roll--260-542
I'd be surprised if anyone ever reinstalled their old capacitors back into their B networks but maybe. Still, I'd suggest picking up a used pair in the garage sale area... they show up for a hundred bucks or so. I say this just because I'd like to hear the original networks just for comparison. Not a big deal... do what you want. You can find a lot of discussion here about choosing capacitors! Have fun!
The plywood of mine was a bit "chippy" from many years in a hot choir loft but nothing a little epoxy couldn't cure. These look nicer than mine.
Outdoor speaker placement - AW-650
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Heh, the picture makes the deck look decent but it is due for replacement. I need to tear it out and see what kind of rot I might have at the rim joists where the deck attaches. I'll have nice music while we work at least!