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On 3/20/2006 at 4:34 PM, EVGuy said:
Here's a pic of the finished project.
Those sure look pretty!
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On 3/23/2021 at 11:48 AM, Chris A said:
I suppose the price tag of the new Klipsch Jubilees has probably hit home...the reason for the shift suddenly away from the Klipsch Jubilee? The new Jubilees also are not yet available. The original Jubilee version using the bass bin designed by Roy Delgado and PWK is still available new in extremely limited quantities presently. They are ~$15K (USD) in North America. The large jump in price of the newer Jubilee isn't as related to sound quality as it is to the market to which it is aimed, bringing something like a 2x to 4x increase in price for more modest sound quality improvements (i.e., blind test preferences). Apparently "audiophiles" don't believe that loudspeakers are good unless they are also very expensive--much more expensive than their fabrication costs. So the price increases almost exponentially to "meet market demand for their perceived exclusivity".
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Unfortunately, this is not a JBL or Altec website--although there are many here that have owned these brands over the years and may still have fond memories of them. Both of these companies have their own audio enthusiast websites to check. Try this one: http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/index.php There have been several changes in loudspeaker design requirements since the 70s and 80s that have made those older JBL studio monitors no longer favored for music production work (i.e., recording, mixing and mastering studios). While they have very good sound quality in general, they all seem to have their own idiosyncrasies by model type. In particular, they all seem to suffer from polar coverage issues vs. frequency--something that the Jubilee design mostly avoids, and Danley Synergies/multiple-entry horns [MEHs] completely avoid. The Tannoy Westminster Royal also avoids many/most of the issues of polar coverage irregularities, but at the expense of using a direct radiating woofer, which introduces modulation distortion to the higher frequencies (due to woofer cone motion at higher SPL while forming a horn for the higher frequencies).
In general, my impression of the old 1970s and 1980s JBLs studio monitors is that the individual drivers are usually very good (albeit relatively expensive), but the integration of those drivers into full loudspeakers for home hi-fi use seems like it always leaves something to be desired-especially the horns and their lack of horn-loaded bass. One thing to look for in older loudspeakers for home hi-fi service: horn-loaded bass bins. Without them, there is a qualitative difference in the sound quality, I've found.
Altec-Lansing Voice of the Theater (VOTT) cinema loudspeakers also typically have very solid drivers, but system integration into full loudspeakers isn't something that can really compete with the Klipsch Jubilee (either version), IMO.
The biggest problem that I see is that the Altec VOTTs and even more so--the older JBL studio monitors--have become collectors items for audio enthusiasts in one particular country (Japan) that has apparently driven the costs of used units completely out of sight--certainly much higher than they otherwise would command. The same situation exists for the old Western Electric cinema horns, which have their own issues. Nostalgia seems to be the main motivational factor. You would be buying a much more capable set of loudspeakers if looking at Jubilees, in my opinion.
Chris
very well put and has perspective I share the same thoughts too....
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I use the 2Ultra 2 subs and ka amp with Jubilees, once dialed in, work very well in my yamaha system!
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On 7/17/2020 at 2:20 PM, Khornukopia said:
My friend is doing some work on his house, so we brought my KW-120 subwoofers and KA-1000 amp back to my place. Decided to try them with the Klipschorns in the garage. The pair of 12" subwoofers may be undersized for the main speakers, but they sound good and get plenty loud.
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What would be the perfect sized room for Jubilees and how far apart?
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Very excited for Roy and for Klipsch. Jubilee it is, and really hope it is a smashing success!
Any videos of the Jubilee at CES?
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On 8/29/2019 at 11:28 PM, dwilawyer said:
"He maintains that he graduated 101 in a class of 101 students." Check out the third installment of the recently discovered PWK biography.
I want a copy!
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Don’t forget to look at the Klipsch THX Ultra 2 subs and matching KA 1000 amp. Yes it’s a system, buy the amp n 2 subs.
These are extremely clean, powerful, you will feel everything from gunshots to blow crap up to solid bass in music too. Not muddy at all I love them and have used with LaScalas and on Jubes with great results! I’ve heard them with Bells too.
100% happy and hassle free!
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5 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Do you still have your basement Home Theater I heard about 13 years ago?
Sadly no.
I have started all over again, now treading water and re married new house (may 2021) hit the reset button and looking forward to moving into chapter 2 of my life with Jubilees! -
I’m interested in a fellow Jubilee owner to hear my setup in Indy/Fishers indiana. Dialed in, finally I’m extremely happy. Wonder what others think or someone considering these to hear too.
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I know they are working on a killer sub called THE BEAST!
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I have a pair of Jubilees, what I am now doing is looking at center options. I'd like to take the Belle and cut out the mid-high section and put the 510 there. Aesthetically that might be better, at least for me, than the La Scala.
So the quest then is to find a middle Belle or La Scala in average to good condition to paint that black industrial paint on them to match the Jubilees!
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Anyone use the 510 horn on top of a La Scala or Belle? Use the same driver on the horn as the. JUBILEE right and left?
I'm thinking of going this route.
Roger
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On 3/8/2020 at 10:50 PM, Dave A said:
The difference between the two is not trivial. 904 wins in a big way.
But if your looking for a center, between Jubilees what would you pick?
You are at 80Hz anyhow?
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Yes, lets dream some, and look forward to this event!
Can't wait to see all of you!
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Keep this in mind for placement!
I just wish to know if the measurement was for between the speakers or back long wall?
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I have a honest maybe stupid?
Why not take the KPT-KHJ-LF with K402/Whatever the top driver is now, and clip off the tweeter run off make sure the mid can also take or deliver the tweeter function in the 402 and sell this as a passive alternative with Roy’s magic I the network?
It seems to me there is already a network in place and we are re inventing the wheel here
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Btw the Industrials have the K 43 15” woofer more punch more power allowed jus barely not as low as the K33.
Also, the splits were also a way to make things lighter for the Stage Crews too!-
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Split Tops could be stacked on top of two dog house bottoms. It ads height in a club on a stage to sound better. I used this system as a DJ with Crown 300 amps. Monster great sound. It’s too heavy too big but can you even imagine showing up today with 4 LaScala’s And a huge 1802 sub? Hahahaha
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Congratulations. We wanna see the Klipsch room and setup!!!
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Did anyone post it?
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On 9/18/2017 at 5:38 PM, dtel's wife said:
Guess we need to get a map together of Jub owners so folks can audition them! Same thing some say about MWM/402.
I think MWMs/402s fit in rather good here! Almost forgot... @CECAA850 you have visited this room
I think this would be a great idea! Especially since I’m a Jubilee newbie!
PWK BIRTHDAY BASH & CHIEF BONEHEAD CLASS - MARCH 7, 8 and 9 - Registration Information
in Klipsch Museum: News & Announcements
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Sounds like fun!