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Thanks again for the speakers, I am enjoying them quite a bit. In fact, much more than the KLF's at this point. I haven't been playing the KLF's so much because I do like my music fairly loud with some decent bass and I was able to get the KLF's to put out good bass - I cranked them up louder than normal a few months ago and discovered that loud music and fish in a nearby tank are not a good combination. I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure the loud music killed a couple of my fish. Since then, I've been really hesitant to crank up the KLF's at all. But, never fear, I do have my priorities straight, the fish are looking for a new home![:S] At any rate, I do remember you saying something about the holes\bolts in the bottom but forgot and so I'm glad to know (again) that I can use them for a base. I certainly need to check up on that, I currently have one speaker on a milk crate, the other on concrete blocks (was trying to see if I could detect "floor coupling", the difference between the plastic and concrete). I started building a wood base but tho it looks like I have the height\tilt just right, I should have made it nearly match the surface area of the speaker, mine is only about 13" square. Doh! But I will build something, and then use the those screws on the bottom to mount. To answer your question about the old Marantz... whew, I'm not sure what I think. The sound certainly is different than the new-ish Marantz 4023 , seems more muted. Or not as bright? And I do like bright. At any rate, I turned to CL and bought what you saw above. The first 2230 is still dirty, got about half of it cleaned but more work to be done on that. I then picked up that integrated set, and the amp blew at least one output transistor on the left channel right away, during initial testing. The pre-amp and tuner do work properly. Haven't really tested the 4400 quad yet. I know I'm getting a little wordy here, but I've moved the KP-201's in and out of a couple of rooms, tried them out with several different amps\recievers and so far, I can't say that I'm crazy about any the amps, but am having fun trying out different combo's. I really need to read up on pre & amp specs. Plus, I haven't heard the Marantz 250 amp at all, still need to order and replace the blown output transistors (I suppose I should replace both channels so they don't sound differently?).

Thanks Colter, for the info. I did do the site-wide search but apparently I missed some threads, I'll back and check the commercial section. Never hang them from the top or sides? Well then, that's exactly what happened to the "sister" set of these KP-201's. I checked out the bar that they went into, and they are hanging from eyebolts, which are attached to the side of the cabinet. I didn't look to closely, but I don't think they were supported from underneath. Maybe I should double-check that and maybe give the owner a word of caution?

Ya, I remember seeing your 2320B. Didn't listen to it much but I figured if it was good enough for you, it was good enough for me. Plus, the fact that I *thought* I had a 2230 in the basement (which I didn't find, I think that I *gulp* threw it away) put me on the course of finding more Marantz for cheap. I have checked a few pawn shops, and thrift stores around here, haven't found any gems yet there.

Thanks, I'll check that amp out. - update: Wow, sweet specs (I think, LOL) on that amp. A little pricey in my world, but I'd sure like to hear one. Thanks much James, I have read here and there about some of those KLF-20 mods. I have never opened them up to check to see if they are the ones with the additional bracing\glue but I do mean to do that. I didn't know the price on the Ti 'phrams but at only $30 a pop, I'm all over that. I'll order a couple up and fix up those KLF-20's.

I don't think you'll need to do the calibration again. Yup, this site is great... they helped me with the exact same question and my reciever now automatically switches to 2.1 when a particular imput is activated (the digital signal from my PC).

I agree, RiverN... Please stay out of the Garage Sale section... (grin)

I assume you all got this email also. _____________________------------------------------ Dear Jon, I messed up. I owe you an explanation. It is clear from the feedback over the past two months that many members felt we lacked respect and humility in the way we announced the separation of DVD and streaming and the price changes. That was certainly not our intent, and I offer my sincere apology. Let me explain what we are doing. For the past five years, my greatest fear at Netflix has been that we wouldn't make the leap from success in DVDs to success in streaming. Most companies that are great at something – like AOL dialup or Borders bookstores – do not become great at new things people want (streaming for us). So we moved quickly into streaming, but I should have personally given you a full explanation of why we are splitting the services and thereby increasing prices. It wouldn’t have changed the price increase, but it would have been the right thing to do. So here is what we are doing and why. Many members love our DVD service, as I do, because nearly every movie ever made is published on DVD. DVD is a great option for those who want the huge and comprehensive selection of movies. I also love our streaming service because it is integrated into my TV, and I can watch anytime I want. The benefits of our streaming service are really quite different from the benefits of DVD by mail. We need to focus on rapid improvement as streaming technology and the market evolves, without maintaining compatibility with our DVD by mail service. So we realized that streaming and DVD by mail are really becoming two different businesses, with very different cost structures, that need to be marketed differently, and we need to let each grow and operate independently. It’s hard to write this after over 10 years of mailing DVDs with pride, but we think it is necessary: In a few weeks, we will rename our DVD by mail service to “Qwikster”. We chose the name Qwikster because it refers to quick delivery. We will keep the name “Netflix” for streaming. Qwikster will be the same website and DVD service that everyone is used to. It is just a new name, and DVD members will go to qwikster.com to access their DVD queues and choose movies. One improvement we will make at launch is to add a video games upgrade option, similar to our upgrade option for Blu-ray, for those who want to rent Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Members have been asking for video games for many years, but now that DVD by mail has its own team, we are finally getting it done. Other improvements will follow. A negative of the renaming and separation is that the Qwikster.com and Netflix.com websites will not be integrated. There are no pricing changes (we’re done with that!). If you subscribe to both services you will have two entries on your credit card statement, one for Qwikster and one for Netflix. The total will be the same as your current charges. We will let you know in a few weeks when the Qwikster.com website is up and ready. For me the Netflix red envelope has always been a source of joy. The new envelope is still that lovely red, but now it will have a Qwikster logo. I know that logo will grow on me over time, but still, it is hard. I imagine it will be similar for many of you. I want to acknowledge and thank you for sticking with us, and to apologize again to those members, both current and former, who felt we treated them thoughtlessly. Both the Qwikster and Netflix teams will work hard to regain your trust. We know it will not be overnight. Actions speak louder than words. But words help people to understand actions. Respectfully yours, -Reed Hastings, Co-Founder and CEO, Netflix p.s. I have a slightly longer explanation along with a video posted on our blog, where you can also post comments.

Ya, if it's going to be much longer, I'll cancel my order and buy something that's available now.

I get same thing. I'm pretty sure it's the spike created at the moment of connection. The only solution I know of is turn the amp off first. Damage? I don't know, but it does sound nasty.

Hmm, I'm also curious about the Cat-5. I have about 500' of it sitting around. I have some 6e too, I think. But going from 14 ga to, what 24 or 26 ga? I'm not sure about that... (maybe twisting the pairs into 2 groups of 4?) I guess that wouldn't be bad - solder the ends.

I'm not an audiophile and so my opinion comes from the trenches. I bought a set of Heresy II's and a set of KLF-20's recently (now that I finally have discretionary money - wanted house\cars\ect all paid off before playtime) for two reasons: 1) I really like the horns - plain and simple, tho I'm about 50, my ears apparently are still capable of hearing high frequencies. The klipsch separate out those high mids & highs and don't muddle them all up. 2) Bang for the buck. Yeah, there's other speakers I'd like to have instead - but can be rather frugal and Klipsch are an excellent value for my needs. Now, I find my self not getting bang for the buck in buying old Marantz equipment - this might be a poor decision on my part. Not sure yet.

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Check it out, the guy still had some of the original documentation and accessory packs... the pre-amp still had the original plastic face plate covering on it.

Well, I did snag a marantz 2230 cheap - but it needs some work, very dirty, buttons sticky, pots need cleaned. Probably some caps too. In the meantime, I found a guy here in Iowa that bought some Marantz equip new in 1973. He's been the only owner and it appears it was well cared for. Tho clean, I suspect that these units are in need of a little TLC just due to age... I also didn't get them cheap, I did pay good money (tho way less than what's asked for on the page below). Here's a link to another set of 3 (the exact same tuner, pre-amp & amp) that I just picked up this morning. So, these aren't mine but I'll post pics of mine when I get them inside (it's raining now). http://www.classicaudio.com/forsale/mz/1203300250.html

Hi guys (are there any women on this board at all???)... I spend ALOT of time at work either driving or working alone on various pieces of equipment. For years, I've been listening to both music and talk radio (NPR). I have to admit, I'm digging the Google cloud and so have been listening to music more than in the past. At any rate, I've bought quite a few earbud sets in the last few years. Bose, Sens, Sony, ect. Now, since being on this Klipsch kick of mine, I've decided I need the S4A for my andriod phone. Hopefully, I don't have the seal problem some of you are getting. I will report back with my impressions, although if I were you, I wouldn't assign to much importance to my opinions.

Hey guys, I'm also watching for a tube amp that I can play with (and "learn myself"). Looks like this unit from a church should have a separate tube amp. http://ames.craigslist.org/ele/2560816401.html I know it's a longshot, but any ideas if this amp would be any good in a 2ch setup? Heck, it might not even be a 2ch amp, might be mono. I *think* it's an item like this... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maas-Rowe-Carillon-Model-74-/170683605670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bd8922a6#ht_500wt_1413 EDIT: Well, looks like the best case scenario is that there is a tube amp, but it would geared for PA use.

Appreciate it, but I've got a line here in town on a couple of Marantz - hopefully I'll snag a good one for cheap.

I need to read up on the best bang for the buck method of getting good a good source and signal to the amps. My terminology might be a bit off, but at this point I've just been using 320kbps mp3's on one system and regular CD's on another system. I haven't seen a good summary of how to best rip from CD's or records to computer files. And I guess I need to learn about these higher quality CD's I've seen mentioned in other threads here. So, point me to some material on those CD's and do you need a better\different type of CD player then? Thanks in advance.

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I agree. Used to have a buddy in advertising. He freely admitted to taking psych classes to learn how to cause specific responses in consumers. Here's the kicker... he said he often just resorted to lying. Often hard to check the facts and even harder to make people care he said. EDIT: I don't know if you allow political comments here, but my buddy also frequently remarked on the excellent "fear" campaign that GWB used. Apparently, the fight or flight response is not something easily resisted but it is easily triggered and was used to great effect in the campaign. EDIT02: apologize for hijacking thread. It's a habit and actually an art, tho under appreciated.

Men are certainly more visually oriented than women. Thus the difference in perception that you refer to. Har. Har har har.

Excellent advice Ironsave, I had totally missed actually changing the "listening mode", I was just changing speaker setups manually, doh! So, I did find the "stereo" mode that just outputs in 2.1, so that's great. Working well. I didn't have the speakers raised much or tilted. So, using milk crates and cardboard (temporarily), I've got the heresy's more properly oriented.

Cool, thanks Mike. So I will be watching CL for vintage type equip for not much money (as I'm inherently cheap). I see there's a few on there now, but they aren't cheap at $185-300. In fact, here's the links, don't these prices seem a little high? Maybe not, I'm still learning. http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2525214971.html http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2534366478.html http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2534379311.html Ha, I just picked up cheap set of speakers (KLF Model 20) and a older, cheap amp (MCS 3225) so that I can practice rebuilding. I've already found caps bad in the speakers, so I've ordered replacements. Also started the process of cleaning\lubing the MCS unit, the POT's are all scratchy. I still need to read up on that procedure, I'm not clear on all the details (not sure if I can just clean or if I need to replace the rheostats).