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Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions. The verdicit is in, upgrade speakers for the best bang for your bucks. Since I like these speakers, they will end up downstairs where I have a lonely 51 in Plasma 3D TV. I will consider RB 81 across the front paired with 2 subs. That would make a nice front stage. My wife will not go for larger towers. I will stay with a 9.1 or 9.2 setup. This setup is great for blue-rays, dvd and tv. I know the avr is a bit on the high end but BB had it on closeout for $729, so I could not pass that deal up, lol. I am learning a lot from this forum. Time to start looking for deal.

I have a Icon V series HT (VF 35, VC 25, VS 14, VS 15 and a RW 15 sub) and a Pioneer SC 35 Elite receiver for my HT setup. The receiver has a class D amp at 140 watts x 7 continuous and the speaker are rated 100-400 watts VF 35 and 50-200 watts VS 14. My questions are the following: 1) Can I benefit from a power amp 2) If I can, what type and how much power 3) I do not want to damage the receiver or speaker My setup is a 9.1 with the VS 14's as front height and surrounds, and the VB 15's as surround back. I see lot of people on this forum with power amps but they have larger speaker that have more headroom for power. I was told that the reciever has a peak around 280 watts/channel. Comments and suggestions are appreciated.

I have a Pioneer Elite SC 35 avr with 140watt continous power rating over 7 channels. Each channel has a class D amp. I have a 9.1 setup. I have Klipsch Icon V series HT setup (VF 35, VC 25, VS 14, VB 15 and a 15in RW sub). The speakers are rate 100-400 for towers and 75-200 on the surrounds. If I were to get a power amp would it be beneficial ; I am guessing the avr has a peak around 280-300. My question are the following: 1) what type of amp and with how much power 2) which speakers to amp 3) dangers to speaker, and avr Comments and suggestions appreciated.

Sometime I think people put to much emphasis on the speaker and not enough on the avr or amps. Afterall, the avr/amp is the heart and brains of the system. Don't get me wrong, speaker are a key element of any system : ) Klipsch VF 35 Fronts Klipsch VC 25 center Klipsch VS 14 Front Height Klipsch VS 14 Surrounds Klipsch VB 15 Surround Back AA RW 15 SUB Klipsch HT 500 for rec room

The B 20 are good speakers. The power mismatch could be a blessing since a major problem with HT setup is getting the center speaker/channel loud enough to hear dialouge clearly. Have you considered changeing avr's. I was not sure from reading your post if that avr had autocalibration. Autocalibration would give you the balance that you are looking for. I know for me upgradeitis can be expensive. AVR's are on sale now and a good Pioneer, Denon or Yamaha will not cost an arm and a legs; just a thought.

The volume definetly increased and maybe fuller would have been a better word than tighter. But, one thing for sure the sub auto-calibration setting changed and that may be due to the subwoofer loosening up? No offense taken I did not experience this with my other Klipsch system, Sony system or Onkyo system.These were not HTIB, lol.

My answer is surprisinglyYes, I replaced my Klipsch sub this week with another brand sub and experienced the phenomenon of the sub being broke-in. I hooked it up and was not overly impressed, but after a few hours of music the sound improved greatly. My auto-calibration set the new sub to +3.5. After 3 days the sub sounded tighter and really good. I performed auto-calibration again without moving the sub and the sub setting went from +3.5 to -3.0. So, over a couple of days of normal use the sub improved in effieciecy, suoud qualty and overall performance. I am running a Klipsch Icon V HT and I am enjoying music and movies much more. It was not bad to begin with! Pioneer Elite SC 35 avr Klipsch VF 35 Front Klipsch VC 25 Center Klipsch VS 14 Front Height Klipsch VS 14 Surronds Klipsch VS 15 Surround Back AA RW15 sub

My question for you is what is your goal? The RF 82's are nice speakers and it sounds like you want to put together a home theater. Another questions is what type of avr/amp will be controling the RF 82's and sub? The point I am getting at is system harmony, how every thing will fit together. Please post more Info

I use my surrounds up near the ceiling and my front height speakers 2 ft. belotw the ceiling. My ceiling is10 ft high and the room is 20 x19. I like the effects due to better spatial imaging. Due to room constraints, I don't not worry about strictly adhering to recommended speaker guidelines. That what autocalibration is for.

Thanks for the suggestions. I purchased a, 15 inch 300 wt RMS and 600 peak wt dynamicout put, AA sub . It is not a familiar brand on this form, but this baby preforms. I don't think I will be upgrading this sub anytime soon : )

I had the Klipsch HT 500 with the satellite speakers up near the ceiling which is 10 feet and the center speaker just under the TV and that was a very nice setup. I have replaced it with the Icon V series and use Front Height speaker and surround speakers near the ceiling. It sounds great, and I enjoy the spatial effect like footsteps unstairs like in Master and Commander Far Side of the World. I know this is not what many audiophile consider optimum speaker placememt, but I like the way it looks (less obtrusive) and that is what auto-calibration is for. I think you will be happy and need not worry. I have a 7.1 system with a 9.1 setup. Hope this is of some help. My room is 20 X 19 and I sit 12-13 feet from the TV. Pioneer SC 35 receiver Klipsch VF 35 Front Klipsch VS 14 Front Height Klipsch VS 14 Surround Klipsch VC 25 Center Klipsch VB 15 Surround Back Klipsch SW

I agree that the pioneer avr will drive those speakers without a problem. Due to the effiency of the Klipasch speaker, power is usually not a problem with use in the HT. Music lovers may need the extra power of an amp. I use my HT 90% for movies and TV. I have a pioneer SC 35 and watch blue-ray at a volume of -35 to -25. Pioneer SC 35 Klipsch VF 35 Front Klipsch VS 14 Front Height Klipsch VS 14 Surround Klipsch VC 25 Center Klipsch VB 15 Surround Back Klipsch SW Samsung 51in 3D TV Samsung 3D BD Wii for netflix and exercise (lol -not a gamer)

My system is in the family room 20x14 with 10ft. ceiling. It opens up to the kitchen but that is not a problem. My budget is around $500. I thought about a Klipsch sub but I see on the forum people also use other brands. With subs I do not have to worry about the voice match problem. This is my first theater that did not not come in one box, lol. Thanks for the help. You have a very nice setup by the way!

I have the Icon V series HT with an old sub from klipsch HT 500 system. I like the sub, but I want the room shaking bass for movies. My system's crossover is at 100 on the avr. Looking for opions on what size, and type would work well with this system. The avr is 7.1 so 2 subs is not an option, I think. Pioneer SC 35 avr (140w/channel) Klipsch VF 35 Towers Klipsch VS 14's Front Height Klipsch VS 14's Surrounds Klipsch VS 15's Surround Back Klipsch VC 25 center Klipsch SW from Klipsch 500 HT (100w-200 w peek)

Another option is to keep an amp and use it for extra zones or on the surronds/or front stage. The SC 35 and SC 57 both have pre-outs for an amp. Either way you will be happy.

I also got a Pioneer SC 35 a month ago. Great price at BB. This avr gives you room to grow. I run a 9.1 setup on this7.1 reciever. Power has not been a problem with my HT. Klipsch IconV series is also a good buy now. The expanded features on my BD is very similar to media gallery, minus a few things that I really don't need or wood use. Pioneer SC 35 Klipsch VF 35's Main Klipsch VC 25 Center Klipsch VS 14's Front Height Klipsch VS 14's Surrounds Klipsch VB 15's Surround Back Klipsch SW Samsung 3D Plasma TV Samsung 3D BD Wii for netfix and some exercise (not a gamer) ASUS notebook for all share connectivity

I wish I could say it is Hennesey time, which would be nice, but, work in the morning. I think I will watch a movie with my Klipsch system and have a Coke and a smile!

Nicely said: Bi-amping makes more sense. Due to the varying opions on bi-wiring, you can conclude that this practice does not make that much of a difference. Theorectically bi-amping makes more sense. But, once again is the difference worth it or do we just like playing with our systems?

You get the same power per channel but the SC 57 ($2100) is a 9.1 system. I broug SC 35 at BB for $729: they recently had the SC 37 for $799. You may be able to find this on closeout and save money. That is if you do not need the extra zones or you are not planning on running an 11.1 setup. I have a good size home and 9.1 setup is a bit over kill. There are so few 7 channel movies and in the next few years I doubt if we see enough 9 channel movies. Hollywood is just lagging behind the avr technology.

The RF 7's are moster speaker and can handle a lot of power. The Pioneer SC 57 is a top of the line avr that should drive them ok. Larger speakers are in general more efficient than smaller one;s, so you will get more volume and depth from them at a given power level. You paid good money for the SC 57, try without the amp first I have and Pioneer SC 35 and do not feel a need for an amp. I use my system mostly for moives and TV (90%) and music on the side. Pioneer SC 35 Klipsch VF 35 main's Klipsch VS 14 Front Height Klipsch VC 25 center Klipsch VS 14 surrounds Klipsch VB 15 surround back Klipsch SW Samsung 51 in 3D TV Samsung 3D BD

P.S. I left out Klipsch VF 35 for main front speaker, getting late : )

Hi, the RS 42's should be good since they do not have to be as strong as the speakerss in the front sound stage. The RS 52's will be slightly fuller but, the contrast between the front stage and the surrounds may be better with the 42's. This may give better spatial imageing. A good HT is about balance and not just volume. A good avr goes along way in the options and performance in a home theater. The avr will bring balance and flexability to your system with fine tweeks that make up for room imperfections and the difference in speakers. I have a 20x18 foot room and really like my HT. I use it 85% for moives. Klipsch VS 14's Front Height Klipsch VS 14's R/L surronds near ceiling 10 ftl high Klipsch VB 15's Surround Back Klipsch SW Samsung 3D Plasma TV

I am still finding great deals on the iconV series. Just got VS 14's on closeout at BB.Now I changed around my system to get better sound out of my 7.1 system with a 9.1 setup. Pioneer SC 35 avr VF 35's front R/L VS 14's Front Height VS 14's Surrounds (mounted near 10 ft. ceiling VB 15,s Surround Back Klipsch SW With the surrounds near the ceiling, I can get added effects like foot steps upstairs in Master and commander DDPLIIx-THX. It is also great for plane and ariel acts. The SW was moved to a corner position and the MCACC did a great job controling the SW so no problems with distortion and phase problems. I sure would like to here how other people like these speaker and their setup. I know I am not the only one finding these great deals going on this time of year : )

Ont thing I left out is with a 9.1 system people use an 11.1 setup. If the room size is small to many speakers can cancel each other out and will be no better than a good 5.1 setup. Hope this is of some help. My setup: Klipsch VC 25 center Klipsch VF 35 front L/R Klipsch VS 14 Front Height Klipsch VB 15 surrounds Klipsch satellite surround back in rear position (satellites from Klipsch HT 500) Klipsch SW from HT 500

Front Height speakers work depending on your setup. In a 7.1 or 7.2 channel receiver they are more prescence speaker and add a vertical dimension to your sound stage If you have a 9.1or 9.2 channel receiver you get even more out of the like rain drops from the ceiling in Forrest Gump or foot step from upstairs in Master and Commander Far Side of the World. I have a 7.1 receiver with a 9.1 setup. I like the Height effct and use SV 14s, four and a half feet directly above my VF 35's. Dolby recommends Height speaker directly above the front mains. Remember that there are not a lot of 7.1 moves out there. You really notice the special effect with 6.1 or 7.1 BD.