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You technically should have a mono stylus and cartridge (and listen through only one speaker) but only someone really serious, with a big collection of mono records, is going to go to the trouble and expense.

http://www.homestead.com/casweb/index.html Is the link to the one audio society member's museum. Click where it says Spy photos. There are quite a few pages of incredible stuff.

I wonder if the seller could be confused about what he has. He lists the weight as 60 lbs, which is half of the real weight of a La Scala.

Max, All you need to do is put the tube equipment in an oversized cabinet. If you have the back off the cabinet where the tube stuff is, you should be fine. If you need a little more air flow, simply use a whisper-quiet fan.

Klipschorns definitely like plenty of room to do their stuff. Mine are in my large finished basement. HOWEVER, I have had them in little bedrooms over the years and even then they sounded good. It's only natural that if you're in a small room you'll have the volume turned down accordingly. I don't know why people are always putting in their for sale ads that they don't have enough room for them. Might be just an excuse, or the NWAF. They'll work in any reasonable-size room, but they'll love a bigger one.

Thanks, Webmaster. Political posts tend by their very nature to be divisive. And some posts are just so overboard that one feels compelled to comment, which just keeps it going of course. Blocking the posts entirely is the absolute best way to go.

JM, I don't know whether you were just mentioning the Mozart Effect to get them to keep their speakers, but, there is no real science behind the Mozart Effect. Check out this page for some debunking: http://skepdic.com/mozart.html

Price-gouging--you've got that right! I believe some of these necessary chips are just a few dollars. And when you figure the chassis is shared, it seems like adding DVD-A or SACD to one format or the other ought to cost a hundred bucks, not a thousand!

I know it's extra hassle, but everything I've read indicates that you can buy a quality SACD player and a separate quality DVD-A player for less money than a quality two-in-one single unit.

http://www.icemagazine.com/daily/192/index.asp Great info in this two-part interview. You need to scroll down the page a little.

BlueMonk, PCM stands for Pulse Code Modulation, and is what is used in all normal CDs. You can run a search on Google.com to read up more on it. You'll probably find about 10 million pages! Remember, one neat thing multi-channel SACD has going for it is that in less than a week Dark Side of the Moon will be re-released on it. It's only $11.99 (plus tax) on pre-order at BestBuy.com, with free shipping.

Double posting is a good way to get the NO LIFE designation quicker. I gotta quit before I reach FREAK status. When does that kick in?

With a battery powered amplifier, I bet.

Tony, You can always email Kelly.

To answer question above, at least some of the Pioneer multi-format players do not really output an SACD signal--it is converted to PCM. This article talks about it a little: http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/ces2003/sources/page_03.shtml Also, if you go to http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hirez/bbs.html and use the search feature, type in "output PCM" or "Pioneer PCM" or something along those lines, you'll get hundreds of posts discussing which models do and which don't convert to PCM. If in doubt, don't buy a multi-player. If it is true SACD output, it should be emphasizing that feature. If it doesn't say anything, it is suspect until you can find out for sure.

---------------- On 3/15/2003 7:48:33 PM RCA 7591 wrote: This will be my last post to the Klipsch forum.

Since you like Dylan, you might want to check out Sundazed Records, at sundazed.com. They recently released all of Dylan's records early records (except the first) in mono, and they are all great. Bob Irwin, who runs the place, does excellent work. Sundazed also has lots and lots of other classic titles that they've reissued, and they typically access the original master to cut their records.

Unfortunately, if statistics about EICO production even exist anymore, they aren't known to any collectors. The EICO-lovers group is compiling a little bit of data on audio equipment from members, but it's just a drop in a bucket compared to total production. EICO made hundreds of different types of test equipment; the extent is hinted at by running a search on eBay. I imagine that accounted for more of their sales than amps did.

Glad you guys joined. Most of the member base is in Hong Kong. I actually mentioned this Eico group on the forum months ago, but I guess the post got overlooked.

jtice and others with Eico amps, You should check out an informative Eico users group online: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eico/ No wild arguments like there are on the Klipsch forum, but it's an unsurpassed source of information on Eico.

jtice, Congrats on your Eico HF-81. I wouldn't spend any money on premium speaker wire. Of course, some will disagree, and that's what makes the world interesting. But remember one important thing: Eicos and all other vintage amps were listened to and designed by engineers who used plain ordinary speaker wire. If you told them there were going to be people who spent thousands of dollars on interconnects and speaker wires 45 years in the future, they wouldn't have been able to stop laughing. Another thing, Paul W. Klipsch himself thought fancy speaker wire was bullsh*t, and ran tests demonstrating it. He recommended plain old zip cord.

Thanks, Builder. In this particular Dope From Hope paper, Paul emphasizes the importance of *quality* speakers, no matter how many you intend to use. While that seems so obvious that it hardly needs to be stated, from what I gather it is rarely followed by people in the real world. Most of the multi-channel systems I see pictured on the internet have tiny Bose-size cubes for the rear speakers, and a center that is totally inadequate as well. No wonder there are lots of stereo fans who have so much contempt for multi-channel. I think those people who dismiss multi-channel so quickly have never heard it on an all-Klipsch-Heritage system.

One of the Dope From Hope papers I've read, made available by Artto, dated July 1974, has Paul talking about the great benefits of using three channels for stereo. "The center loudspeaker provides the ultimate refinement in stereophonic geometry localization." This subject has been discussed before on this forum. What I found interesting was his take on quadraphonic sound. He accepts that 4 good channels of discrete sound (he would be talking about a quad reel here) would add realism, but on a phonograph record, "one can expect gross distortion." ". . . proper deployment of 4 speakers would be 3 speakers in front and one in the rear rather than 2 in front, 2 in rear." Also, "The bridged center speaker is needed just as much in '4-channel' as it is in stereo." I tried three-channel stereo as championed by Paul, and liked it a lot, but I like multi-channel as available on SACD better. Three speakers in front, two on the side, slightly behind the listener. Instead of a blended L + R signal for the center, a discrete center channel. I prefer a center like this much better than the center effect created by stereo without a center speaker at all. For one thing, there is really no concern about being confined to a sweet spot, because you don't have to be. Does anyone here know if PWK ever commented on 5.1?

BlueMonk, I've bought 3 SACD players, and no DVD-A, so that tells you what I think! There is definitely a battle going on, but it is true that multi-players might make it that there is no clear victor. One real downside of at least some of the machines that play both formats is that they convert SACD into PCM before playing. This takes away most all of the advantage SACD has. So if you wind up buying a player that plays both, make sure it doesn't make this PCM conversion. And don't listen to a salesman about it because he won't know. Do the research on the internet. Anyway, on the DVD-A camp, you essentially have Warners. On the SACD camp, you essentially have everyone else. I realize there are numerous small companies that support DVD-A, but nowhere near as many as support SACD. If Warners decides to pull the plug, it is goodbye DVD-A. Sony and Philips are not giving up SACD no matter what. Neither format has sold many discs yet, relatively speaking to CD. But the Rolling Stones SACDs alone have sold something like 2 million units. All DVD-A titles together sold something like 600,000 units in 2002. The SACD release of Dark Side of the Moon coming out in a couple weeks is expected to sell half a million. The momentum is on SACD's side.

One of the papers included in the package is a review of the Klipschorn from Audio magazine, originally published 11/86, which I read when it came out. I always thought the reviewer, Richard C. Heyser, really nailed what makes the Klipschorn special, and was happy to be able to read the review again after all these years. Heyser talks about setting up two high quality condenser microphones outside his home, and feeding them into his home, switching from Klipschorns to "a pair of excellent speakers whose bass could shake the house on pipe organ; they made the K-horns sound thin by comparison. Then a funny thing happened. The sound of a slammed car door sounded like a slammed car door on the K-horns, but sounded like muffled 'whumps' on the 'wider range' system. The same with helicopter fly-overs (quite frequent where I used to live) and with the sound of distant traffic. I never forgot that experiment nor its ear-opening ramifications with regard to sonic accuracy versus measurement."