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On 11/23/2022 at 7:47 AM, Trey Cannon said:
Looks like I jumped the gun as well. I misread and thus misunderstood what was said. Klipsch does have the K-77-F. and the diaph kit for that driver.
Roy jumped the gun here...the F IV kit is not in the system and can not be ordered yet. It has a part and a price, but not ready for prim time.
Actually it is in the system and the kits are being assembled. Stay tuned.
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The mumped 510 and the horn on the kpt904 hf are the same. The 691 driver and bnc 75 are basically the same. Should not require any net changes.
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6 hours ago, Sam S. said:
Good news for us iii owners. Thanks for posting. Can you verify what’s in the kit, and how easy or difficult it is to make the changes/upgrade? Eg - can it be done with simple tools - screwdriver? Or more complex instructions?
Just like our other upgrade kits, it will have an instruction sheet and can be done with simple tools.
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6 hours ago, Pilk said:
Is the kit for a pair of III's? Assuming xover changes..
sorry. The kit is for one speaker.
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16 hours ago, Silverfoxvtx1800 said:
What do you get in this upgrade?
You a tweeter assy consisting of the horn, wide dispersion phase plug, tweeter driver, a midrange driver and network. There will be an instruction sheet as well just like all the upgrade kits we offer.
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In the spirit of Paul W Klipsch, we are offering an upgrade kit for forte iii’s to forte iv’s. Each kit will cost $399 so $798 to do a pair. The part number is 1070334. Use this part number when calling customer service to order the kit.
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31 minutes ago, rmlowz said:
This thread was fun, mentioning other vendors crossovers this thread won't be here long.
Correct.
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3 hours ago, Heritage_Head said:
Roy do you have any advice on a passive crossover solution?
You have a 904 lf and a 904 hf (510 horn, b&c de75/k 691 and bracket? Hmmm…..let me see.
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29 minutes ago, jjptkd said:
The k510/691 combo is incredible, I have them in my Chorus II's listening to Zepparella right now just amazing would love to see a home speaker model Chorus III? I'd buy the first pair if you'd let me.
Chorus iii……I’ll put it on my to do list
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45 minutes ago, Heritage_Head said:
Absolutely (title changed)…. thank you
Thank you
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9 minutes ago, the real Duke Spinner said:
Ok, Roy
Share us some Facts please
Because of the large horn the imaging and soundstage remains the same. Outside the bass if full and does not falter because they are set to curve flat in half space which basically means that you at least have a floor. In rooms you start to add room gain and Michael mentioned he removed most of that. Will they sound good outside? Yes. Will they sound good in a large room 30x40? Yes. Will they sound good in a small room? Yes. That’s they beauty of large constant coverage horns. Hope this helps.
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On 11/2/2022 at 7:52 PM, Heritage_Head said:
I know this has been done, but what exactly would I be getting myself into if I were to go down this road? What kind of cluster would I be creating for myself lol?
I have 510 brackets (that sat on top of 904s already) what what would I be looking at in terms of making this a plug and play?Change the title and leave frites off and I will let the thread stay up. Remember this is a klipsch forum.
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Simple. You want to talk about other manufacturers stuff…..go to their website. Not here. But I will agree that it was mostly about Klipsch so I will let it repost.
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On 11/3/2022 at 1:39 PM, seti said:
Heritage is anything PWK had a hand in.
And that was quite a few speakers! 🤓
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So all these opinions and no facts……I have them in quite a few places from outside to our lab room.
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5 hours ago, MeloManiac said:
I've been reading your posts, this one, and the previous ones, with great interest and a great bit of jealosy as well, I must admit. And I have hesitated about reacting to it, because these days, any 'negative' reaction online is seldom tolerated, even if it is an honest one.
Here's the thing: in my opinion, Klipsch Heritage speakers come in different sizes, proportional to the size of the room they are put in. Each model has its 'sweet spot' size of room. Put a pair of Heresy speakers in a large hall, and they won't sound right. Put La Scala speakers in the average teen's bedroom, and they won't sound right.
If you put Heritage Jubelee speakers in a room that is too small, they won't sound right. They are truly mammoth in size, and according to the user manual (yes, I read it) they should be between 12 and 15 feet apart, and the MLP (main listening position) should be equally 12 to 15 feet distant, forming a triangle. My instinct also tells me there should be reasonable 'breathing space' behind the back of the MLP too, though this is not mentioned in the user manual. In other words, you need a really big room to do justice to these really big speakers.
It is quite obvious you are aware of the fact that your listening room is small-ish for these speakers, and your observations and tweaks are certainly worthwhile, but often it reads like this analogy: you bought a marvelous muscle car, and you ride it on you driveway, while you should be taking it out to a race circuit and enjoy its full potential!
I am aware you are not the only one putting these speakers in a small room:
Compare the above with a still image from one of Klipsch's official youtube videos:
Your opinion but I like facts. They work in small rooms.
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On 11/1/2022 at 5:12 PM, Quad Khorns said:
Thanks for the detailed write-up, explained very well and clearly. I will remember this if I decide to pull the trigger on a set of HJubes. My room is 20 x 20 so I don't know if I would have the off-axis issues you describe. However, I would engineer and fabricate a new front support system that would work with the rear driver moveable support to allow easy tilting of the horn and clearance of the front edge veneered sections. Per your pictures, I think I could use the factory mounting holes so no new ones would need to be drilled (I hate permanently changing something like these). I would also post the plans for any HJube owners to do the same.
I did a similar concept for a design/build to allow two horns per cabinet to be tilted independently on a modified Altec VOTT project. Haven't mounted them yet but it does work as designed.
The bracket works…..no need to modify.
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On 10/27/2022 at 12:22 PM, MMurg said:
To add to the official story told by the spec sheet, I have measured the Jubilee in my listening room with my UMIK-1 and REW. Measured at 1m on-axis of the K-402 horn (both horizontally and vertically), the response measures to spec down to where the room response starts to take over. Once I got the K-402 on-axis in both direction at the main listening position (using speaker positioning and tilting the horn down due to the short distance in my small room) and corrected for the huge bass room gain from my small room with a two PEQs in my Emotiva processor, the speakers measure very well at the listening position as well. The response goes out to 20 kHz to spec and the -3 dB point for the bass is about 16 Hz. I even get useable response (-10 dB) down to about 10 - 12 Hz (depending on which channel is measured since the room isn't quite symmetrical). These speakers have not been over hyped. They are the real deal.
That’s cool that you did this Michael.
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8 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Technically, it's not a horn Below 104 Hz., so you are getting Direct Radiator Doghouse Bass loaded in a really really tight internal corner. What you do get is Greater Phase Coherence because the voice coils in the Woofer and Midrange are aligned to within an approximate Quarter Wave, which the Khorn does not have unless you go active with time delays.
Having lived with Khorns and LaScalas for well over 30 years, in addition to better phase coherence I would prefer LaScalas with 2 complementary Subwoofers to get bass down to 20 Hz., which even the mighty Khorn will not do.
No matter because the new JUBILEE stomps them both, if you can afford the admission price.
???? What ????
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36 minutes ago, jcn3 said:
@Chief bonehead -- sorry to bother you on this one. What is the finish on "natural cherry"? Is it oil-based?
I think it’s a lacquer finish.
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On 10/20/2022 at 6:51 PM, Tom Bird said:
What about the kp281? Is their much of a difference? Same speaker kp2002 c
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Different. 281 has a larger vc. Larger magnet. More excursion.
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On 5/16/2022 at 6:22 PM, nickyboy6100 said:
That looks like a less than ideal setup. As far as speaker placement goes.
But it works….
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On 5/5/2022 at 7:16 AM, Frzninvt said:
This is not true regardless of open or closed backs the Klipschorn still needs a solid corner with ~ 4ft on either side of it to perform to listed specifications. That will never change and is listed right in the documentation. Don't believe still ask Trey Cannon and he will confirm it for you.
They have to be in close proximity to a corner. Not in a corner.
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16 minutes ago, avguytx said:
Pretty sure you're not supposed to list your own speakers in the Alerts section and Garage Sale.
You are right. Have fixed it. Thanks
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Suitable substitute for K-33 in LaScala?
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If these original Klipsch, then just get the k33 from Klipsch.