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Hello all, Up for your consideration is a nice condition Pioneer Elite VSX-74TXVi 7.1 channel receiver. 140wattsx7. HDMI. Oldie but a powerhouse! Demo at time of purchase. Remote included Local pick up Asking $100 for members. Will be listed locally at a higher price. Location 60511 Western Burbs of Chicago

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I made this one a stealthy passive sub. I also helped out another fellow forum member that ended up wanting the electronics on the inside for spare parts!

I've had more than my fair share of Klipsch sub amps fail over the last 20 years. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.... well, you get the point. However, I've picked up a few lately with bad amps and I make the subs passive. Then I can drive them with an external amp and whatever processing you choose to incorporate. (Or you could do the plate amp. I'm just not one for mounting an amp in a box that shakes non-stop.)

Looks like they might have been used to DJ. So, most likely abused. Then, he realized this is a horrible system to use as a DJ setup, and now it's for sale at top dollar!

I would say the Chorus II's and the Heresy's would be better used for music only systems and keep the 2 way reference speakers in your home theater. Perhaps sell a set of the RF7 ii's and pick up something smaller for surround duty (If you have side surrounds, go with something like the Klipsch RS 62II, if they are in the back, then maybe a decent bookshelf speaker like the RB 61 that you could wall mount out of the way. I've found that in a home theater setting, the center channel and the sub are the most important. That's were you should focus on the best quality speakers that fit your budget. Unless you have a huge room, like the size of a school gym, you are wasting the abilities of large speakers in the surround and front L/R positions. Reason being, if you use the THX settings, the front and surrounds are cut at 80 hz. So those front speakers with 10" / 12" / 15" woofers aren't really being used effectively. (Unless you use the system for both home theater and music) I was guilty of this for a while when I was running my RF 83's as the L/R in my home theater before I pulled them to my seperate 2.2 music only system. Go a head and put in a special FX heavy movie and actually go around and listen to what is coming from each speaker and more specifically, each low end driver in those speakers. You might be amazed to realize how little low end is coming from the L/R front speakers. (Of course, unless you set your mains to run full range) I don't really understand why people want huge matching Goliath speakers all around. I know some people swear they need to timber match the tweeters, etc., but in reality, that's not extremely important. (I know some people will flip their lid over this, but they are usually the same people that will argue that super expensive speaker cables and super huge power cables make a huge audible difference over just a nice decent set that doesn't cost the equivalent to a mortgage payment!) I can understand wanting the front three channels to match as closely as possible, but for the sides and surrounds.... come on! I hope this helps.

Yes... and kind of! According to the specs, the Cornwall is down -4dB at 34 Hz whereas your decent sub, when integrated properly, should be relatively flat and start to drop off near/at/or below 20Hz. I don't listen to music loud anymore, however, I like it to sound full at lower volumes. There is a perceived loss of low end when the music is quieter. The sub fills in the low end at lower listening levels. That is one reason I have subs on almost every system in my house and that is why one might want one for their Cornwalls. It's a personal preference of course, and depending on what music you are listening to, you might not need anything larger than a 6.5" two way bookshelf sized speaker.

Third times a charm? After I purchased the Klipsch RP-280FA for my makeshift home theater last year (due to regular home theater turning into a play room for the kids), I needed to reduce my current speaker collection. As a result, these Klipsch tower speakers both went up for sale. But before the buyers arrived, I took the opportunity to do an A/B comparison of course. This is the RF-3 II vs. the RF-82 II. The battle of the double eights! Speakers:Klipsch RF-3 II with new drivers and Klipsch RF-82 II. Room:2 car garage w/ 9' ceiling height. Garage door open (Surprisingly good demo area!) Electronics: Emotiva USP-1 preamp, Emotiva XPA 5 power amp, dell laptop. Demo Songs: Jimmy Sax-No Man No Cry / Stevie Ray-Chitlins Con Carne / Pink Floyd-Time / Electronica - in the end RMX Without getting too technical, the RF-82 II's had a noticeably fuller sound... as expected due to the much larger cabinet size. It was very apparent that they dug a little deeper on the electronica track. The RF-82 II's seemed a bit more refined overall when listening to the tracks. In addition, the magnetic grill on the RF-82 II is far superior! Good luck finding a grill on the RF-3 II that doesn't have at least one of the pegs missing! However, as far as price , the RF-3 II's are almost always significantly cheaper. If I had to chose, and price was not an option, I would definitely chose the RF-82 II's. RF-3 II Specs:

This was a fun project. I purchased a set of RF-3 II's with the typical damage to most of the 8" drivers. I purchased 4 new drivers from simply speakers for a cost of a little over $400. https://www.simplyspeakers.com/klipsch-replacement-speaker-woofer-1011974.html Then, it was time to compare them to my other set of RF-3 II's Speakers:Klipsch RF-3 II with original drivers and Klipsch RF-3 II with new drivers Room:15' by 12' room w/ 8' ceiling height. Vinyl floors w/ 5' by 7' area rug. Electronics: Emotiva USP-1 preamp, Rotel power amp. Demo Songs: Jimmy Sax-No Man No Cry / Stevie Ray-Chitlins Con Carne / Pink Floyd-Time I was hoping there might be some dramatic difference in the newer drivers, but that was not the case. Sure, I liked the look of the new cones without the black dust-cap, but that was really the greatest difference. If you are changing the speakers and expecting a dramatic upgrade, save your money. If you are changing the speakers because the other's were damaged, go for it! Did the low end sound different? Marginally. But I didn't have a preference as to which one was "better."

I will start things off. Speakers:Klipsch RF-7 II and Klipsch RF-83 Room:15' by 22' Living room w/ sloping 9' to 16' ceiling height. Wood floors and large 9' by 13' area rug. Electronics: Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi, Dell computer with WAV files. Demo Songs: Jimmy Sax-No Man No Cry / Stevie Ray-Chitlins Con Carne / Pink Floyd-Time These were very similar speakers. They sounded slightly different down low, as expected with 2 10" drivers vs. 3 8" drivers. They both had decent low end impact. The RF-83's might have been a little more punchy, but the RF-7 II's had a touch more oomph to it. However, for the most part, no one area was arguably any better than another until it came to the very upper end of the frequency spectrum. The RF-7 II's sounded more natural at reproducing the saxophone passage in one of the songs I used to demo. (Jimmy Sax: No man no cry) I would say the RF-7 II's came out the winner... but it wasn't a total domination by any means. I was happy with both speakers.

Hello All, I decided to start an A/B (maybe even C and D too) comparison post so that people can use this as a reference. I always see posts asking about how certain speakers compare to each other. Well, the only real way to do this is to have the speakers side by side and have a listen! So, that's exactly what this post is meant to do. Feel free to add your comparisons to help build this resource for future speaker buyers! Thanks! Some basic guidelines: -Include the models that you compared -Include pictures (if possible) -Include a basic description of your listening environment ex. wood floors/carpet/size of room, etc -a basic list of equipment (This isn't an equipment brag post) ex. Emotiva pre amp, Rotel power amp. If people want to know more detail, they may send you a message. I don't want this to turn into an argument over cables/dacs/tubes/etc. -List the demo song(s) you used. -If you changed the speaker components or replaced a component with a newer/different component, please make note of this ex. Rf-3 with stock woofers compared to RF-3 with updated drivers. Please only post: -Speakers you actually auditioned side by side. -Speakers that are in the same ballpark as far as price/type Please do not include: -Comparisons of speakers where one is a speaker you heard as a child and now are comparing it to a different speaker you heard yesterday...30+ years later. -Speakers that you didn't audition side by side. Let the fun begin!

Thanks. I think with the time and materials I put into them, I maybe broke even, but at least someone is enjoying a set of Klipsch speakers that should be good to go for another 20+ years!

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Multiple smaller subs would be an option. Although it's tough to integrate them into a room unless it's a dedicated listening/home theater room. I did this when I had my home theater. I purchased 4 used Velodyne 10" powered subs... all for right around $400 total! I had two on the front wall, one on a side wall and one on the back wall. The idea is to try to even out the nodes so you don't have a ton of bass in one spot and a bass vacuum in another. (There is a system that is sold called the swarm system, but it's really just 4 dayton audio HO 10" subs with the 1K watt dayton audio sub amp. Here is one link: http://www.audiokinesis.com/the-swarm-subwoofer-system-1.html) I roll my eyes when I see someone with four 18" subs all on the front wall in a bedroom sized area. That just screams to me that they are mostly deaf, they like to hear nothing but bass, or they have no idea how to tune a system and just resort to the "bigger is always better" theory. Here is an example from the web...

How about $200 for the cables?

I saw this and thought it was worth sharing. The receiver is not worth anything, but great for a garage set up. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/211713561635356/?ref=category_feed&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=listing&tracking={"qid"%3A"-4085818328017788374"%2C"mf_story_key"%3A"6368595356565079"%2C"commerce_rank_obj"%3A"{\"target_id\"%3A6368595356565079%2C\"target_type\"%3A0%2C\"primary_position\"%3A108%2C\"ranking_signature\"%3A850817344706969600%2C\"commerce_channel\"%3A504%2C\"value\"%3A0.00038020072329408%2C\"candidate_retrieval_source_map\"%3A{\"6368595356565079\"%3A3001}}"%2C"ftmd_400706"%3A"111112l"}

Those are my speakers. I have them listed in the garage sale section.... $225 for Members! (Also, you can look at what I did to them in the technical modification section)