Jon B

Thanks for the reply. That's how I normally do it, but I don't plan to ship this stuff and that does make a difference on what it is worth to folks. But as I said before, I'm not looking for top dollar so I shouldn't quibble. I put the stuff on a different table last night and that 200.5 amp is easily the heaviest amp I have ever lifted. The pictures are coming........

Hi Billybob!! Long time no talk to. I have missed my friends here on the forum. Been tying up all my time with other hobbies and not getting back to my first love - audio gear! I'll grab some pics tonight when I get home. My garage is getting too hard to work in, so I plan to thin the herd a bit. I have an Adcom preamp, amp, and 5 disk CD that may go if I make a deal for a Yamaha M series stack (C-70, M-70 etc) I have been thinking about buying. There is also a Parasound 200 watt amp, and a 60 watt Rotel integrated amp (with remote) that I may find a new home for as well. More on that later.... Take care my friend, JonB

Hey folks, I just did a swap with a buddy for a B&K Reference 50 S2 preamp, Reference 125.2 amp, and Reference 200.5 amp. I live in the Adcom, Yamaha, and Onkyo from the 80's separates world. Care to help with valuing these things? I have no idea what the real world value is, and when I try see wildly differing prices all over the map. They came out of an impressive home theater with a high end projector, automatic curtains, and built-in speakers. So they were adult owned and not abused. Any help would be greatly appreciated and if anyone in the forum who is in Southern Calif wants them, let's talk. I'm not going to fire sale them, but I also am not interested in getting top dollar either. A good deal for both parties is all I want to see. I am also happy to trade. I love, Love, LOVE the Yamaha, Onkyo, and Adcom amps and pre amps from the 80's. If you have those, we should talk. Thanks everyone, and BTW and I still have my beloved 301's! JonB

THE CABINET IS QUITE A SURVIVOR!!!! BUT IT'S TIME WILL RUN OUT EVENTUALLY. I went out to dismantle the cabinet and it was a cold and rainy weekend. There was no way I was rolling it out in the driveway to dismantle it and "do the deed" in that ugly weather, so I issued a stay of execution that weekend. As it turns out, the weather has not cooperated since! We are at 3500 feet here in the Southern Cal high desert, so winter is a real thing. I swear this cabinet must have good connections with the weatherman because I have not had a single good weekend lift the stay of execution and complete the task, but the cabinet remains on "death row" until the weather changes. So if you are interested in it, let me know before the next warm spell when I will be forced to destroy it.

The cabinet will be dismantled this weekend. I tried to save it, but its time ran out. Jon

I am in the sunny southern Cal desert town of Hesperia. Jon

I have a HUGE KP-450 bass cabinet using more space in my workshop than I can afford, so here is the deal. You can have the complete cabinet WITH the pair of K-48 woofers in it for what the woofers are worth to me which is $400, or I am left with no choice but to remove the woofers and destroy the cabinet so that I recover the space in my shop. If there is a Southern Cal Klipsch fan that would like to help me keep this cabinet out of the landfill please speak up before it is too late! Regards Jon B

Yes this is a tough one because most of their catalog is outstanding. I can honestly say, unlike other bands, their albums are not full of "filler" they are meaningful tracks from start to finish. Album? That's easy, I think the entire planet has shared their opinion on that one. When you look at the run Dark Side of the Moon had on the charts it is hard to argue - it is a complete masterpiece When it comes to a single song, mine would be Learning to Fly. That solo never fails to deliver! I love how it makes me daydream while listening to it - just so easy to get lost in it. Folks love to talk about Jimmy Page, Hendrix, et. al. But David Gilmour deserves much more credit than he is given - without a doubt.

Oh crap! That just broke my heart because I didn't know until now! Although I did have a hard time reaching him the last time we spoke in December, but he said he was "on the mend." I'm saddened beyond belief at the moment. Bob and I spoke on the phone at length, several times, toward the end of 2020. We laughed and talked about our USAF experiences, music and other things we had in common. He is a great guy and our hobby is wounded with the loss of his expertise. I know I am....sigh

Hi Randy, As you have stated, it makes sense. It is not what I read originally, but I get the point and agree somewhat. Getting back to the original question, as I understand it, the poster wants to put the speakers outside and wishes to protect them in a manner that allows them to function whenever they are needed, I presume even when relaxing when there is a comfortable rain outside (no one would be out in a serious storm). Question: Would you leave a pair of Cornwall's outside with a protective cover around the cabinet - with the drivers partially protected, but not fully covered, so they can be heard whenever used? I wouldn't, and I don't think others would either. Gale force wind can really whip moisture around and things WILL get wet without 100% protection i.e. a full cover. The magic of a rugged cabinet in a KP series speaker does not change the drivers inside that are common between these two speaker types, so while one is intended only for interior use and the other for professional applications - the drivers remain at risk when left outdoors. Sealing them up in a mostly waterproof shell perforated for the drivers would protect the cabinets, but not the drivers. And that is the point that I am really tired of talking about. I just cant tell someone in good faith, "Oh don't worry I have seen it done before," when I honestly would not do it myself with my own gear. I'm not calling out anyone else for feeling different, only pointing out that an enclosure that would fully protect the speakers would require them to also be covered IN THE FRONT when not in use. Thus making them non-functional until the cover is removed or simply left open all the time which is not advisable. I harbor no ill will for @CECAA850 I just took exception with the earlier brief reply. He demonstrated he is a good guy when he gracefully backed out of the discussion - don't know him, but believe he's a classy guy from his actions. The treadmill crack from another poster was funny, but I'm not going there.....

I had tube guitar amps for years and loved them as a source, but disliked their care and feeding requirements over time. In the end, tubes need to be replaced. Transistors LOL, not so much. And I agree that Parasound amps sound really good. But I do have a HCA-1000 that hums through the speakers like an old barber cutting hair when it is at idle. I have tried everything under the sun, custom power cables, dedicated circuits, power filters, testing with no external input and nothing will work. It's the amp, it just has a very clear hum that is masked by the audio when there is input and is not noticeable on quiet passages. But I am about remove it from the shelf its sitting on and pass it on to someone that wants to deal with it! I had a buddy over that says he has metal detectors that do that by design. The audio engineers claim it speeds up the audio output of the detector when sweeping the detector. I said well that's great for a metal detector, but I really don't want to hear it when I am listening to Dark Side of the Moon!

I don't intend to pick a fight on this but your reply about the race track was dismissive of me and inferred that I don't understand what the term Klipsch Professional means. So I replied in kind. For the record, I know a great deal about professional sound gear as a performer and on the setup and control side of the microphones. To answer your question, the simple answer is - you did. You did so when you said, "Theyre installed at the race track outside at Indy. They seem to do OK." So unless they are protected from the elements which you didn't say, or it just doesn't rain or get cold at Indy...... and we both know the answer to that, there is only one thing to conclude from your statement - they are "outside" in the elements.

And my money is on the Indy speakers being a KP version designed to be outside, but KP units all are not well suited for that kind of duty - in spite of the Klipsch Professional designation. While you can certainly store your lawnmower outside, it will definitely last much longer when stored in the garage. It is due to a little thing called exposure to the elements..... I certainly do not know enough about the KP lineup to say which models are weatherproof and which ones are not. All I can say is the original question was concerning in KP-301's. I own a set of 301's that I have completely disassembled twice and know well inside and out. I can say with a great deal of certainly that the KP-301 was not designed to be outside in any kind of weather. Imagine a blowing rain that then freezes when it suddenly turns to an ice storm. I'm sure the driver diaphragms , speaker cones, and cases would definitely LOVE those conditions - not.

And that explains it! You could fit everything I know about steel guitars in a very small thimble! LOL. Just not my thing. But it is cool none the less and you are right to hang on to it. Older and vintage gear definitely has personality that new gear doesn't. Dare I say the new stuff is more vanilla and a bit heartless. The old gear has a bit more soul that varies from instrument to instrument. Back in the day, the exact same model and year guitar would have subtle differences. Much of the new gear tends to be EXACTLY the same without exception which may be one of the reasons I'm disinterested in playing anymore.

What does it take to be "given" a pair of KP301's because whatever it is, I'm probably up for it! Those are great, and tough speakers. I really love mine.