RSTRAUTMAN

---------------- On 3/28/2003 12:04:07 AM m00n wrote: Yeah, rock mostly, but I do enjoy some good new age music from time to time like Tangerine Dream. Anyone else like Tangerine Dream? There is only 1 90's band that I really ended up likeing and that's 311. Mix of rock, rap, funk, reggae. Man they can get that grove on. ---------------- MOOOOON!...Tangerine Dream and tubes, talk about some atmospherics, my favorite group since 1997. 50 albums and still counting. Have u heard "Goblins Club"? klipsch Forte II's Denon HDCD 370 H/K A700 modified w/Hammond Transformers Sansui 1000A precise speaker placement p.s. It's all good!

...I recommend that u take the mono block question and start a different string in order to get some very good feedback from some of the pro's. They won't see your question under the title of this string. Mono blocks r the best tube sound going if the ones u are looking at are in good condition(good tubes and caps). Those 8 watts will knock your socks off! U will be a tube head forever after u hear them on the Fortes. ...Put your question up under the Two-Channel section.

.... well the proof is in u, if u know someone with a tube amp have them bring it over and run it for yourself and take a listen. Those guys talking about the "first watt", know what they're saying. A set of mono blocks will take one watt and slap u silly on a pair of Forte II's. SS tends to make these 99db speakers sound harsh, especially at higher volume. Tube amps have high definition, excellent detail, and plenty of power, even 25wpc will make Forte's hum along like a Ferrari. High quality SS is good stuff, don't get me wrong, but some speakers are made for tubes. I had a Denon and a Yamaha and neither one could hold a candle to my H/K or my Sansui 1000A on the Forte's. Listening to the SS, and then throwing on a tube amp will show u the difference...do a taste test. Jolida has an introductory amp for $550, if u can afford it, and will be money well spent for those speakers. This is two-channel sound though, if u want home theatre or four channel, perhaps u should sell the Forte's and go for something other than three-way horns. RS

...Well, let me tell u that if u would just invest in a decent small(say 25wpc), tube amp and run those babies u will be totally amazed at the quality of sound they will produce. I have mine hooked up to a refurbished H/K A700 with 35wpc and at half volume they will rock your socks off and the detail and bass is excellent! The bottom line is these speakers(some of the best ever made by Klipsch), are made for tube land, period. U will be hard pressed to find a reasonably priced SS amp that will deliver the quality of sound that tubes do.

..Keep in mind the more u crank em' the less tube life u will have. RS

..I just put some Yugo "EI elite" gold pin 12AX7's in my HK A700, they are very musical and sold for $9.95/ea. I bought three and received a matched pair and a single, after 25hrs I have no complaints. Triode Electronics.

...Another site with some very good deals is Classic Audio, www.oldhifi.com. To buy used tube equipment try to go through a reputable resaler or buy new. E-Bay and the like can offer some apparent good deals, but as I and some of my tube head friends know all too well, u can get burned. My H/K A700 integrated amp and tuner cost me only $224 on E-Bay, but the s&h was another $96 and then I had to refurbish the entire amp; total cost about $800. I must say though, the sound is incredible, this one is richer and more detailed than my Sansui 1000A. Too bad I can't take u for a spin with this amp and the Forte II's, I'm sure u could make a quick decision about tube sound after a two hour session. RS

...Well, after all is said and done u will be much happier with a decent tube amp. Jolida has some reasonably priced pieces. Personally I have tried my Forte II's with Denon and Yamaha, but I didn't know what I was missing til I ran my Sansui 1000A tube amp(50wpc), almost heaven. I also have a Harmon Kardon A700(35wpc), and it sounds outstanding, with sharp highs and incredible detail. It should be noted that speaker placement is very important as well. Go tubes and u will be totally happy. RS

...Someone must have some Forte II's, they kick *** with my tube amps and high volume just makes them sound better, although my neighbors will beg to differ.

I would like to talk to u seriously about your amp. I have a Sansui 1000A with 7591's, and I would like to add a stablemate. I just came back from a San Francisco vacation on the 21st of Oct., Seeing some friends on Broderick off Haight St.. BTW my Sansui is using a Denon 370 HDCD and a pair of Klipsch Forte' II's.

...Try buying a good tube amp and u will be in heaven!

good radiators positioned correctly are very important to the full sound of the Forte II's.

...Klipsch definetly sells replacement passives. Mine cost $192 with s&h incl..