ya, its like a treasure hunt, ebay , becareful tho , check out sellers transactions , u can do the math from that, if the seller is buying a whole bunch of internall electronics, u can imagine its a fixer-r-upper-dude, u have to be patient, n know what u want, i never bought into digital surround , im into quadphonic sound, im in need of sub tho < lol, i owne klipsch heresy, the guitar is awsome on them, n piano not to bad either, ya , nakamichi does it tight