JSChapman Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I wonder if you guys can help me out here. Just to be quick and straight to the point, I feel like I am missing something with my surround speakers. Like a sense of spaciousness. I have a very small room (10x12x8) with my S1's placed directly to my side at five feet above the floor and two feet from the back wall. Is it me, my placement, or what? They are already mounted but, I am willing to do some patch work. Any help would be awesome, Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted June 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 16, 2009 If your chair/sofa is all the way to the back wall that could be part of the problem, try moving it out a couple of feet if you can, also if they can be moved try them on the back wall, being a small room you would need all the help you can get to make it sound spacious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSChapman Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 If your chair/sofa is all the way to the back wall that could be part of the problemThat could be the problem but, the sofa is in-line with the side surrounds which puts IT two feet from the back wall as well. As far as rear placement is concerned. My understanding is WDST speakers are meant to be placed on the sides. If rear placement would fill in that gap then, I guess it would be alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted June 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 16, 2009 OK I said that because they say if your backed up directly to the back wall your brain knows there is no space behind you and makes the illusion of rear effects harder to sell to your brain. I didn't realize the sofa was a couple feet from the back wall, maby try temporally moving the speakers to the rear. I have even heard in small rooms people have put the speakers on the ground behind the sofa firing up and reflecting of the back walls to try to give a more spacious sound. Also sometimes some of the DSP's settings in the receiver can give more or less spaciousness. No matter what you have to do as long as it sounds good for your room that's all that matters. When I had WDST speakers I had them on the rear walls because it was my only choice and it sounded good, I would think it does not really matter because they are designed to direct sound in both directions, there nicknames are " sound sprayers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSChapman Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Thanks for helping me out with this. The rest of the system sound phenomenal to me and everyone else that has listened to it. I could try a couple of things with placement as well as tweaking some settings in the receiver. I'll try them right now and post back with any changes I make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSChapman Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Okay, so here is the verdict. I ran my Pioneer's Auto MCACC then manually adjusted a few settings (speaker size) and I also bumped up the rear db's a bit. Surprisingly it made a noticeable difference. Still tweaking some settings but, I am getting closer to what I want. I'm still open to further suggestions but, until then. Thanks so far dtel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted June 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 16, 2009 Glad it's getting there, don't thank me I just repeating things i read hear and tried, everyone goes thru these different problems. You said your open to further suggestions, so here's a fun one.. Put in your favorite music turn down the lights, now set only the left channel playing, now bring in two great looking blonds and sit on the sofa and after a while you will not even notice only half the speakers playing........see it's all in your head ! [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSChapman Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Put in your favorite music turn down the lights, now set only the left channel playing, now bring in two great looking blonds and sit on the sofa and after a while you will not even notice only half the speakers playing........see it's all in your head ! Ha Ha! Just finished my movie and wanted to check back here. I needed a good laugh and some encouragement. Thanks LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted June 16, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 16, 2009 Put in your favorite music turn down the lights, now set only the left channel playing, now bring in two great looking blonds and sit on the sofa and after a while you will not even notice only half the speakers playing........see it's all in your head ! If I tried that, my wife would make sure something was missing...can you say Loraina Bobbit? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I had a pair of Synergy SS.5s for a short while as side surrounds and I can tell you that when I switched to RS-42s it made a HUGE difference in the sound you describe that you're lacking. If you'd rather stay with the Synergy series to match your front speakers I'd suggest the KSP-S6s as they are very similar to the current RS series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSChapman Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 I think where I've got it right now (settings) will work but, I wonder if upgrading to a slightly bigger or better surround speaker would make a difference. Maybe even the S2's? I mean it sounds AWESOME, really! My family says it sounds awesome too but, I don't know. Kinda wish I could do some sort of comparison test. It's not that the S1's are lacking. They just don't seem to have that big, spacious, room filling sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peshewah Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Oh no, you got the upgrade bug. You better hide your wallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted June 18, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 18, 2009 that big, spacious, room filling sound [] Sounds like the bose commercial.......just say NO ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSChapman Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Oh no, you got the upgrade bug. You better hide your wallet.I'm infected again! NOOOOOO! On a serious note, I think I'll end up running the surrounds a little hot. The S1's aren't as efficient as other Klipsch speakers which could be the problem.I'll try the following calibration levels, Front 3 speakers all at (80dB), Subwoofer at (83dB) and surrounds at (83dB). Running them a little hot might just get me what I'm looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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