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I know this is not a stand alone CD player but the DAC's in this Denon are the top of line Burr Brown DCD-1796.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1266346595&/Denon-3910-Price-lowered

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1266866957&/Denon-3910-universal-player-(d

Another option.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1267900225&/NAD-C545BEE-CD-player-with-war

Another option but at your max price. A phenominal universal player. As I stated before in another thread, I have the Onkyo version(DV-SP1000).

Bill

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I'm glad I posted this thread... a lot of great suggestions. Does more than one person agree with any single player? Any particular brands have particular sound staging to be aware of?

IMO all of these players should net a better sound using the DAC's in them instead of your receiver. All of these suggestions are quality players for good prices.

Bill

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A lot of options...how to decide? The link to that integra looks like a good unit, but does a player loose (i dont want to say credibility) but "something" if it is a universal player? I mean,do you end up paying more for the other options as opposed to a stand alone CD player with stop/play/pause and the rest of the money/effort put into the DAC and other such internals? The only thing I want to use it for is music cds with an analog out cable.

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A lot of options...how to decide? The link to that integra looks like a good unit, but does a player loose (i dont want to say credibility) but "something" if it is a universal player? I mean,do you end up paying more for the other options as opposed to a stand alone CD player with stop/play/pause and the rest of the money/effort put into the DAC and other such internals? The only thing I want to use it for is music cds with an analog out cable.


I would not say a universal player loses credibility but a stand alone CD player of similar or equal quality will probably have a "slight" edge in sound quality. If a universal player is not the route you want to go, here is another option that is very similar to the Integra/Onkyo universals that is analog out only.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/1549987135.html

Stereophile had very high praises in their review.

http://www.stereophile.com/cdplayers/108onk/

Also late 80's to mid 90's vintage Denon cdp's are pretty abundant on the used market. Look for the DCD-15** series,DCD-25** series and the mack-daddy DCD-35** series. Here are a couple of examples. No affilitation.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Denon-DCD-3520-audiophile-cd-player-modded-AUDIOPHILE_W0QQitemZ130358175964QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e59f3e8dc

http://cgi.ebay.com/DENON-DCD-1520-CD-PLAYER-20-BIT-BURR-BROWN-DAC-NEW-BELT_W0QQitemZ350290422450QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518eefaab2

Hit your local thrift stores and pawn shops. I found three vintage players that were in excellent condition and operated perfectly for a total of $60.00 at a Salvation Army store.

Bill

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Thanks for the awsome help. People on this forum are great.

For an analog out only, strictly CDP. How much difference does a few hundred dollars make in the used market? For instance, that DCD-35 is going for 150 dollars. Is that as good as the integra which is more than twice as much? Is this were the dollar sign line is drawn for "all in one" players vs. CDP only?

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For an analog out only, strictly CDP. How much difference does a few hundred dollars make in the used market? For instance, that DCD-35 is going for 150 dollars. Is that as good as the integra which is more than twice as much? Is this were the dollar sign line is drawn for "all in one" players vs. CDP only?

Do a search for Denon DCD-3520 or 3560 and see the results. These players were way ahead of their time and rival many mid/hi end players of today. Read this:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1135280036

One of the cool things about getting good deals on the vintage stuff is usually you can resell for what you paid or more. If you are not happy with your purchase, just sell it. Trying different combinations and experimenting is half the fun.

I guess the biggest advantage in buying new or recent used is the reliability factor. Older players can have issues(lazer,transport,etc.) that might need repaired. I have just been fortunate with my vintage cdp's and have not needed to make repairs.

Bill

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