lflorack Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I recently upgraded my HT System with a pair of RF-83's and a RC-64. Wonderful speakers! I'm stll in the process of tweaking the sound. While I use YPAO on my Yamaha RX-V663 receiver to get some starting-point settings, the results are just that and I've needed to change them. I'm currently working on the crossover point. YPAO set it variously at 80 or 90 Hz. Here's the frequency response for my speakers: Speaker Position(s) Freq Response Klipsch RF-83 L/R Front 29 Hz-21kHz ± 3dB Klipsch RC-64 Center 62 Hz-21 kHz ± 3dB Klipsch RVX-54 L/R Sorround 75 Hz-20 kHz ±3dB Klipsch RSX-5 L/R Rear 87 Hz-20 kHz ± 3dB RSW-10D Sub-woofer 24-120 Hz 80 Hz is standard and would encompass all 'small' speakers above except for a bit of the the rears -- but perhaps this is not much of an issue. 90Hz would cover even the backs but cut off more of the very capable fronts -- and a gian, maybe having a small hole on the backs isn't important. I know it's a matter of testing/listening but am wondering if there are any standard bits of wisdom on this. TIA Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 If the receiver has a single frequency for all speakers, then I'd go 80 Hz. If they can be different for each pair and center, then i would try 40 and 60 Hz on the mains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted May 4, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 4, 2012 but am wondering if there are any standard bits of wisdom Probably not from me. [] Welcome I wonder what the receiver does, does it use the speaker which produces the least amount of bass as a crossover point ? I don't know. Is the lfe channel everything below the crossover point, or a separate channel just with the lower bass which the crossover point just sends to different speakers ? never really understood how that worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lflorack Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 If the receiver has a single frequency for all speakers, then I'd go 80 Hz. If they can be different for each pair and center, then i would try 40 and 60 Hz on the mains. Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, the receiver has a single cutover frequency for all speakers. I've currently got it set for 80, thinking that the small hole in the back speakers isn't a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted May 4, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 4, 2012 I've currently got it set for 80, thinking that the small hole in the back speakers isn't a big deal. I wouldn't think so either, you should have enough bass from the rest to not miss anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lflorack Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 but am wondering if there are any standard bits of wisdom Probably not from me. Welcome Thank you! I wonder what the receiver does, does it use the speaker which produces the least amount of bass as a crossover point ? I don't know. Is the lfe channel everything below the crossover point, or a separate channel just with the lower bass which the crossover point just sends to different speakers ? never really understood how that worked I've run YPAO (Yamaha's Audio Calibration software) several times and the crossover has been set to both 80 and 90 during different sessions. According to the manual, in addition to what's on the LFE channel that goes to the Subwoofer, setting the crossover point at 80 (or whever) sends all sound for any speakers designated as "small" below 80 Hz to the Subwoofer as well. How the calibration software determines what that crossover point should be is unknown to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 The specs for the speakers are a guideline. You may get + or - those numbers in your home. With the roll-off I don't think you will have an audio hole. Your autocalibration program sets the x-o to your speakers respone in your home. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted May 4, 2012 Moderators Share Posted May 4, 2012 Great looking room, love the plants also. [Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lflorack Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 The specs for the speakers are a guideline. You may get + or - those numbers in your home. With the roll-off I don't think you will have an audio hole. Your autocalibration program sets the x-o to your speakers respone in your home. Enjoy! Sounds reasonable to me! After listening to the speakers and to advise here and elsewhere, I've decided to leave the crossover set at 80 Hz. Thanks for your response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lflorack Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Great looking room, love the plants also. Thank you! My wife gets the credit for the plants. She does very well with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 The specs for the speakers are a guideline. You may get + or - those numbers in your home. With the roll-off I don't think you will have an audio hole. Your autocalibration program sets the x-o to your speakers respone in your home. Enjoy! Sounds reasonable to me! After listening to the speakers and to advise here and elsewhere, I've decided to leave the crossover set at 80 Hz. Thanks for your response. Good, you don't want to handicap your mains to overcompensate for surrounds, and you might start to notice where the bass comes from above 80 Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Very nice looking system. I love the stand for the components and center speaker![Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 ...After listening to the speakers and to advise here and elsewhere, I've decided to leave the crossover set at 80 Hz. Thanks for your response. I'd trust Zen Traveler at AVS. [] Btw, welcome to the forum...This place is GREAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lflorack Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Very nice looking system. I love the stand for the components and center speaker! Thank you! The A/V furniture is by Salamander under their Synergy Line. Many of my components used to be where he center speaker is now, but due to the size increase of new versus previous center speaker, I had to move them to the enclosed door area underneath. The DVDs/BlueRays and CD's that were down there are now in a pile on the floor. I have ordered a single-width storage 'cabinet' that exactly matches the A/V furniture to hold all of it. It should be in soon and I'll set it up and then take a full set of pictures of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lflorack Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ahh! You caught me [] I agree with you regarding Zen Traveler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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