mustang guy Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 I gave a pair of my LaScalas (the beat to hell ones) and a spare Crown XLS202 to my son's frat house. I told them if they tear them up somebody would die. [] Right now they have an el-cheapo 12" parts-express 150 watt sub paired up with them. At very low volume levels I am sure it works fine, but when the volume goes up, those LaScalas are going to rapidly climb away from the little thing. I need some ideas... A frat house is gonna want to crank up the volume, so it needs to be something that can sound good from zero to 100% of what the LaScalas can do, and they would be used 100% for music... For my purposes, I want something very durable (or disposable) because they are going to be roughed up. They don't have tons of space, so I'm not sure a horn sub would be the best thing. Behringer has some 18's I can get for cheap, and I figure 2 would do. The problem is they are made cheaply as demonstrated by how many of them have crushed bottom corners at the port slots. I recon I could laminate a sheet of plywood to the bottom to add structure, but if that part is weak, I feel the rest of the speaker would be too. I have thought about a table tuba, and they are strong. I would put edge and corner protectors on it. One of them would be a little weak with a pair of LaScalas. Defi nitely don't need a THT. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 SPUDs - about $250 each in materials and the frat house will be rocking down to 17 Hz or lower. Output is flat into halfspace. They are pretty indestructable being that they are horn-loaded, and the cut/buid is easier than Tuba designs. All you need is something like a plate amp or an Xti-1000 to drive one (strapped, an XTi-1000 is 1 KW output, and you get built-in EQ/delay/crossover filters. They go for less than $200 used on ebay. Just my $0.02 Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet_Hollow Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 How about finding a used EV MTL? I'm certain a -2 model would work very well with the La Scala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 pair of kp-480's. designed to mate with the LaScala. btw, if you have k-33's in them now...I would move fast to get them out. k-33's can only handle 25 watts at 40hz, k-43's can handled 50watts at 40hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Robinson Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Cask, I was thinking the very same thing .... Could take a beating and are beer-resistant! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 The Electro-voice and KP subs would indeed do the trick. The problem is that they are obscure and I fear a bit pricey for a bunch of poor college kids. I can build a SPUD. I know there are leaked plans from Danley out there. Has anybody made modifications or improvements on those originals? I think the Danley model was updated since then, but I'm not 100% sure. I can do a search on DIY, just thought somebody here has been there done that. Carl? Didn't you build one recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Could take a beating and are beer-resistant! Hey Chris! Good to hear from you again. Chris A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Has anybody made modifications or improvements on those originals? I think the Danley model was updated since then, but I'm not 100% sure. I can do a search on DIY, just thought somebody here has been there done that. Carl? Didn't you build one recently? See http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/148200/1527442.aspx http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/143740/1470247.aspx#1470247 http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/157453/1662586.aspx#1662586 Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Carl? Didn't you build one recently? Don't have that one in my resume...........................yet. My last build was a 25Hz tapped horn. Before that was the F-20 that thaddeussmith has. Actually I built an adjustably tuned 7 cu ft box for my sons car somewhere inbetween the two. I've just started on a dual driver table tuba. I've got the sides cut and internal panels ripped but I've had some pressing family matters that have taken precedence over construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 For those of you who still have sketchup I am attaching the spud drawing I did from the information I found on the web. I don't have enough baltic birch in 3/4, so I will have to put this project off for another day. Carl, I was thinking the F-20 was the spud. The only thing I'm not sure of it routering the sidewalls. I think it is uneccesary when using PL and Kreg joints. That stuff is strong! Thanks everybody....! spud.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 There's no need to router the sides. It's for ease of assembly. You'll have all the strength you'll need with the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 pair of kp-480's. designed to mate with the LaScala. btw, if you have k-33's in them now...I would move fast to get them out. k-33's can only handle 25 watts at 40hz, k-43's can handled 50watts at 40hz. I finally got round to buying a set of 43's. I hope it's not too late. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo171 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Won't you have to open up the throat with the K-43s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 No idea... Fritz, where are you??? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFord Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Frat house I can't imagine it would be long before somebody trys to turn the system on, turns the volume all the way up, then remembers to hit play on the CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom3 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I am chiming in a little late...I have a Rythmik audio 12 inch sub I built that works very well with our 4 Corns, crossover set 60Hz. I think the kit was $250... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterxela Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Music they're playing doesn't require 17hz, or 30hz for that matter. I had the 15" version of this paired with my KLF-30's in my old loft (equivalent to a frat house.....) http://www.zzounds.com/item--GMNGVXSUB18P They are SPL monsters (for $500), and sound fine. They will not dig (what HT people consider) deep, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Won't you have to open up the throat with the K-43s? K-43's installed, and sound fantastic! The old K-33's were in sad shape (dry rot) and need reconed. It was a good thing Fritz said something, cause the system was sounding a bit tired anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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