tmassey Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Very true, didn't know Emotiva offers free shipping. I would be looking at $350 plus shipping for a brand new one. Would it be worth just buying a new one for the card just in case for another $100 or so? Then if I don't like it sell it and have the card to upgrade? Or if you like it a lot and don't wanna upgrade, sell the card. Right now you shouldn't have a problem selling it for 150 but I have a feeling if you hold onto it for a while, you'll be able to sell it for more. Its worth 600$ off the xmc1 and 1200 off the rmc1 next summer. Who knows, it might eventually pay for the entirety of the umc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vital Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Vital - when you say delay are you referring to sound delay or just a delay in switching and waiting for the picture and sound to display?Like Youthman said, it's a five second delay waiting for the handshake to connect I guess. It's no big deal to me. Sometimes it's less than five seconds, it just depends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Peel Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 Thanks for the great information on the UMC-1. I'm going to pick up a new one and see how I like it, worst case I sell it or upgrade to the new model. Very excited to see how things turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have had my UMC-1 a week now and I am thrilled with it. I had a NAD T-163 since 2004, I did not want to take a chance with the NAD T-175 or T-187. The NAD was noisy always was, it had alot of hiss. I had the B&K Ref 50 for awhile and did not like it, the clicking relays were annoying. I also considered the Sherbourn and the Bob Carver Per/Pro. The UMC-1 is dead quiet so much so I can hear the little nuances on TV or movies that were somewhat muted by the background noise. I have the Heritage big boys and the efficiency really makes it tough for the system to be silent when it should be. It has enormous flexibility on speaker adjustments and settings. The small delays when switching sources is not big deal as they were not seamless before when I had the HDMI signals feeding the TV directly, since I had to toggle the inputs. I tweeked the adjustments more this weekend so my 2 channel analog CD signal would engage the subwoofers. I set the crossover points for all 7 speakers, set the slopes to 24/db per octave for the mains and rears. 12db for the subwoofers. Set EQ settings for each of the 7 speakers and boy does it sound awesome. Bottom line is I could have spent more, I didn't and I am pleased. I bought mine on eBay and I did not get the upgrade card but still consider the $435 invenstment a bargain. I bought the black end pieces to the replace the stock silver ones and like the looks alot better. I am certain you will be pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmassey Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Thanks for the great information on the UMC-1. I'm going to pick up a new one and see how I like it, worst case I sell it or upgrade to the new model. Very excited to see how things turn out.Let us know what you think when you get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepen Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Bill, I am confused. I read a review of the DHC-80.3 and the reviewer said that one of the upgrades from the 80.2 is the inclusion of XT32. But I have read that the 80.2 does have the XT32. Do you know for sure which is it? I am tinkering with the idea also of getting a pre to replace my Onkyo 809. Don't know if it would be worth it but the more I read....... thanks..>Sam Orange Peel, I am not sure of your budget but would highly recommend the NAD T175HD which can be found factory refurbished for $1599.00(msrp $3000.00). I am experiencing wonderful results with my NAD pre/pro and Acurus A200/A200FIVE(same as your 3005 but with 200w/ch) powering my RF-63/RC-64/RS-35 combo. http://app.audiogon.com/listings/processors-nad-t175hd-preamp-processor-with-manufacturer-s-warranty-2012-09-18-home-theater-01060 If that is too much $$$, a used Integra pre/pro like any of these should do the trick: DHC-9.8, DHC-9.9, DHC-80.1, DHC-80.2. http://app.audiogon.com/listings?utf8=%E2%9C%93&global_search_text=integra Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Bill, I am confused. I read a review of the DHC-80.3 and the reviewer said that one of the upgrades from the 80.2 is the inclusion of XT32. But I have read that the 80.2 does have the XT32. Do you know for sure which is it? DHC-80.29.2 Channel Network A/V Controller PREAMPLIFIER: # Channels 9.2 Frequency Response 5Hz - 100kHz S/N Ratio (Line, IHF-A) 110 dB THD (1Vrms) 0.05% THX Certified Ultra2 Plus Absolute Ground Plate Isolated Block Construction (Power/Preprocessor) Shielded Toroidal Transformer Independent Power Supply 4 Fine Linear Optimum Gain Volume Bi-amp Capability For Front PROCESSING: Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus Decoding DTS-HD Master Audio, DTS-HD Express Decoding Dolby Pro Logic IIz (Front High Channels) Dolby Volume THX Processing Modes & Loudness Plus Neural Surround (Neural THX) Audyssey Room Correction & Calibration MultEQ XT32 Audyssey Sub EQ HT Audyssey MultEQ Pro / Installer Ready Audyssey DSX (Front High / Wide Channels) Audyssey Dynamic EQ & Dynamic Volume GAME Surround Modes (Rock, Action, Sports, Role Play) Music Optimizer to Enhance Compressed Audio Files DSD Processing / Direct Mode / 192K / 24-Bit Audio DAC - 192K / 32-Bit Audio DAC Burr-Brown (x6) Vector Linear Shaping Circuitry (VLSC) 32-Bit DSP Chip for Advanced Processing TI Aureas (x3) Ultra-Low-Jitter Circuitry to Improve Audio PLL Adjustable Crossover by Channel Pair 40/45/50/55/60/70/80/90 100/110/120/130/150/200 Accurate Speaker Distance Setting 0.2-foot A/V Sync Delay (by Source) 250ms Multi-Band Speaker EQ 15 ISF Certified Calibration Controls (ISFccc) CONNECTIVITY: HDMI v1.4a (3D Support, Audio Return Channel) HDMI v1.3a (Deep Color, x.v.Color, CEC) HDMI Inputs / Output(s) 7 + 1 / 2 Simultaneous or Independently Active HDMI Outputs (Main / Sub) Front Panel HDMI Input HDMI Upscaling & Upconversion 1080p/24 HQV Reon-VX D-Sub (15-pin) VGA Input Component Video Inputs / Output(s) 3 / 2 Component Video Upscaling & Upconversion 1080i HQV Reon-VX Composite Video Inputs / Output(s) 5 / 1 S-Video Inputs / Output(s) 4 / 1 Digital Audio Inputs (OPT / COAX) 3 / 3 Analog Audio Inputs / Output(s) 9 / 2 Phono Input Front Panel A/V Input L / R / V / Optical Multi-Channel Input 7.1 Analog Pre-outs 9.2 Balanced Audio Output 9.2 iPod Ready (UP-A1 & USB) HD Radio Ready (UP-HT1) SIRIUS Radio Ready Network Audio Steaming (Windows 7, DLNA v1.5 Certified) Pandora, Rhapsody, vTuner, SIRIUS iRadio Napster, Slacker, MediaFly USB Input for Streaming Audio (Front / Rear) Firmware Updates via Network / USB / MULTIZONE: Fixed or Variable Zone 2 / Zone 3 Line Out / Zone 2 / Zone 3 Subwoofer Output / Zone 2 Video Output (Component) INTEGRATION ACCESS: Bi-directional RS-232 Control Port Bi-directional Ethernet Control Port Rear Panel IR Input / Output 2 / 1 RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) RI System Control 12V Trigger (w/adjustable delay) Assignable (x3) MISC: Pre-programmed / Learning Remote / GUI for Remote Control Programming GUI for Setup Menu "Home" GUI Bi-directional Remote Control Setup Activity Remote (MY MOVIE, MY TV, MY MUSIC, ALL OFF) Input Name Edit HDMI Standby "Thru" Mode Setup Store & Recall Function Permanent Memory Storage Solid Aluminum Front Panel Detachable AC Cord Rack Mount Kit Available IRK-180-4 Warranty 3 YEARS Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Bill, I am confused. I read a review of the DHC-80.3 and the reviewer said that one of the upgrades from the 80.2 is the inclusion of XT32. But I have read that the 80.2 does have the XT32. Do you know for sure which is it? Sam, Based on info from the Integra website, yes the 80.2 does have XT32. http://integrahometheater.com/model.cfm?m=DHC-80.2&class=Preamplifier&p=f http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-theater-receivers-processors-amps/54880-onkyo-page-ranking-sc5508-page-ranking-sc5509-ssp-integra-dhc-80-2-dhc-80-3-ssp.html Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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