seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) I have gutted and am rebuilding the inside of a 1971 Sylvania stereo console. I want to use the Klipsch 3650 in ceiling speakers to replace the original speakers in the cabinet. The original speakers were in an enclosure (similar to a box but more formed) with insulation inside. My question is should I mount the Klipsch speakers in the enclosure with the insulation or mount them in the enclosure without the insulation or should I not put them in an enclosure? Edited November 29, 2022 by seby19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2022 Welcome to the Forum! I believe @seti might have some experience with console restoration and might be able to help (along with some others here). Klipsch made a console, the Historian was the project manager on that and only about 10 were ever made. I'm not sure what speakers went into that, but he might have some ideas/suggestions @JRH. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, seby19 said: should I mount the Klipsch speakers in the enclosure with the insulation or mount them in the enclosure without the insulation without the insulation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, OO1 said: without the insulation Will the insulation make the speaker too hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 That title should read “in ceiling speakers” not “deleting speakers”. Looks like auto correct got me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, seby19 said: Will the insulation make the speaker too hot? no , it's simply not needed as long as the seams of the console are glued ,and the rear of the console is sealed with a wood panel , versus the old masonite board , adding insulation can reduce the overall size of the enclosure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, OO1 said: no , it's simply not neededas long as the seams of the console are glued ,and the rear of the console is sealed with a wood panel , versus the old masonite board , adding insulation can reduce the overall size of the enclosure The seams are glued. The back is a thin board with quite a few vent holes in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, seby19 said: The seams are glued. The back is a thin board with quite a few vent holes in it. the console is gonna sound like a full range open baffle speaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, OO1 said: the console is gonna sound like a full range open baffle speaker Forgive my ignorance but is that the sound I should be looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2022 52 minutes ago, seby19 said: That title should read “in ceiling speakers” not “deleting speakers”. Looks like auto correct got me. You can edit the title. Depending on your browser, find 3 dots ... in upper right of your original post, click edit, you can change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, seby19 said: Forgive my ignorance but is that the sound I should be looking for? by re-using the open back panel with ventilation holes , the 2 Klipsch 3650 in ceiling speakers at both ends of the console cannot produce sound in a sealed chamber , but more so , the way the console was originally intended to sound which is a more open sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Travis In Austin said: You can edit the title. Depending on your browser, find 3 dots ... in upper right of your original post, click edit, you can change it. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, OO1 said: by re-using the open back panel with ventilation holes , the 2 Klipsch 3650 in ceiling speakers at both ends of the console cannot produce sound in a sealed chamber , but more so , the way the console was originally intended to sound which is a more open sound So are you saying that keeping them open and without the enclosure is the way to go then or are you saying to put them in the original enclosures and leave the insulation out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, seby19 said: are you saying to put them in the original enclosures and leave the insulation out? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, OO1 said: yes Ok. Thank you for the advice (and the patience!). I blew out a couple of speakers trying to make this work. I just want to make sure that what I have set up will work well and sound good. I am running the speakers through a Fosi Audio DA2120C 240W Bluetooth amp that I am going to mount up top with a Fluance RT83 turntable that I am also building in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2022 The Klipsch Console 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2022 Another way to do it: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2022 Discussion about how to do one from scratch: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seby19 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Travis In Austin said: Discussion about how to do one from scratch: That’s pretty cool. I will post pictures of mine if I have a chance tomorrow. It was my uncles and many of my earliest memories I have of him that console was there. I want to keep the exterior look the same but have all new electronics and interior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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