powdermnky007 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/tweaks/cones.php bike tire = less vibrations from outside... brass spike = less vibrations from inside? There are some pretty neat things at mapleshade. These are supposed to beat black diamond and others what do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 After writing the Gingko review for EnjoyTheMusic.com, I prefer the one racquet ball per 10 pounds, with added weight if necessary, to huge air spaces that might muddy the mid-range- IMO, the more isolation used at the front end of the audio chain (the CD) the better, this means not just rubber and air, but also weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powdermnky007 Posted June 28, 2004 Author Share Posted June 28, 2004 It would be best to get a 40 pound load, with 4 green tennis balls right? So 4 tennis balls on bottom, cd player sitting on top. Then power amp directly on top of cd player would be okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Just make sure you use virgin never-been-played-with tennis balls under your sources. Used and abused tennis balls make for sloppy, muddy sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Racquetballs and tennis balls are not the same. I think you'll find racquetballs will cause the lower bass response to be a little rubbery, while using tennis balls will result in sort of a woolly sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnm Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 PP Go stand in the corner and feel sorry about yourself !! 20 minutes for outrageous punning ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Racquetballs and tennis balls are not the same. I think you'll find racquetballs will cause the lower bass response to be a little rubbery, while using tennis balls will result in sort of a woolly sound. Did you got this information from your crystal ball or the Woolly Mammoth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Since Gingkos research showed smaller racquet-size balls to be better, those are the ones I would use. Their advice is to weigh the front-end components and then use one ball for every ten pounds. So if the receiver weighs 15 and the CD player is five pounds, that is twenty pounds or two balls. Obviously two balls under the front-end equipment is NOT stable, so at least a third ball is required. That means however, that ten pounds of weight should be added as a platform between the units and the balls. A small $3 paving stone is dense and weighs about 20 pounds, meaning that with four balls (40/4), the combination makes a vibration isolation platform similar to the Vibraplane and the one I wrote a few years ago. In an article for EnjoyTheMusic.com, Save $1680, Simple to make platform isolates vibrations: Brings out details for CD and record players, on Tweak Page One (http://enjoythemusic.com/tweaks/), I detailed how air and rubber isolation improve the sound of front-end equipment. Mass also helps. The weight of the stone and components lowers the resonance of low energy waves, the bottom component of human hearing range. The front-end equipment should be coupled to each other, with space for air between the units, and the heavy platform. Blutack or sticky rubber is good. Racquet or tennis balls, cut in half are also popular with tweaking audiophiles. Personal correspondence with a reader last year indicated that large bubble wrap under a thick maple platform had bass extension almost the equal in measurement to the inner tube under a marble slab, with no bass hump at all. Bass was extended and taut. Vertical and lateral stability were second only to the small bubble wrap. So yes, four racquet balls under a 40 pound load seems to be the recommended ratio. tell me if you hear a difference at moderate to loud levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lon Armstrong Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I've never used racquet or tennis balls, but my experience with air and spongy isolation is. . . wiggling. . . not the best sound available. After a lot of experimentation I tried the Mapleshade Triplepoint, maple platform and Isoblock set up under my cd player and . . . well. . . it was the best I had ever heard and I did the same thing under my monoblock amps which again increased sonic benefit. . . . And ultimately a year later after saving up I bought the Samson rack from Mapleshade and I'm one happy happy listener! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powdermnky007 Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 So if I were to use a block for added weight... which I will probalby need, the block would go between the balls and the bottom most component? or between the two components. concrete, maple, does it matter what I use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 yup, if you read the two articles I mentioned, it should wiggle- "between the units and the balls" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lon Armstrong Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I don't think the wiggling has an effect I enjoy. I find it does matter what you use as a weight for the sound, I like to use wood. . . . Bottom line: every room and system is so different that there is hardly an absolute answer for this type of thing. I've found that the Mapleshade system works best for my system, my room, my tastes--that I can safely say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I LOVE you guys, you are some great kidders!! Really had me going there for a minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lon Armstrong Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Another thing I can safely say: Keep the Heavyfoot away from the bicycle tube! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powdermnky007 Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 LMAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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