schwock5 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 The THX 1000 10" Speaker cable has flex pins at the end, not the standhard high end banana or spade. I thought banana and spade were considered the best connections. Why would they throw flex pins on the end? And anyone know how this line stands up against Z and M series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodj101 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 monster cable is lame, get MIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Do yourself a favor and forget about magic wire. Any good quality wire will do. You can pick it up at the local Home improvement center for about $.25 per foot. It works just fine. Go to the local electronics store and buy your plugs. The nickel plated ones work just fine unless you live at the beach. Even then, rotate the plugs in the sockett once a year and you are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzoz01 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 The THX wire will be available soon with banana plugs. Truthfully though, Z1 is about the same price and a much better wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 There's a great speaker wire discussion in the Technical Questions forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwock5 Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 I just thought it was interesting how it came with flex pins, which is made for bottom-end speakers generally. Why would someone with low-end spring clip speakers buy THX 1000 speaker wire unless monster really thought it's customers were dumb? That's not cool. I mean everyone knows they are overpriced, but so is every other "high-end" speaker cable company, the mark-ups are insane. I got monster because I worked at best buy and get minimum 50% off since the mark-up was so high. On another note, what wire do you use for rear speakers? Z1 and other high-grade wire is fine for the fronts since it's short distance, but what do you use for rears that require 20+ feet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I use 12 gauge copper wire from home depot for all my speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 ---------------- On 7/14/2004 9:49:16 AM schwock5 wrote: On another note, what wire do you use for rear speakers? Z1 and other high-grade wire is fine for the fronts since it's short distance, but what do you use for rears that require 20+ feet? ---------------- Twisted pair heavy gauge. Last install I did we used 4-conductor 16 gauge CL-3 in-wall and shotgunned it into each speaker. The twisted configuration gives you maximum RFI rejection, which is the #1 problem with long wire runs - the wire acting like a radio antenna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonrpayne Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Long runs of twisted pairs wire also build up Capacitance, the same properties that make it resistant to interference will wreck your high end. That is science, not "magic wire" mumbo jumbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwock5 Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 I saw a link to cobaltcable.com those speaker cables looked pretty decent for fronts, and I may order them (free 2-3 day shipping + you can choose what you want on each end of the line, personally i'm a banana for reciever spade for speaker kinda guy) Any comments ont his company, now I just need to find cable for rears? Are those long monster spools any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 HOWEVER: Many speakers have those danm plugs so you cannot put banana plugs in, so it would not be smart to have cables with banana plugs on them unless it was a option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewishAMerPrince Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Count me into the 12ga from Home Depot camp. I spent a bit more to get 12ga biwire wire from www.knuknocepts.com because it looks really cool, and helps control cable clutter in a biwired setup. At about $1.40 a foot it is still much more cost effective than Monster anything. As far as connectors go, if you speakers have 5 way binding posts, as most Klipsch speakers do, no connector can beat just stripping the wire, shove it through the hole and tighten down well. Unless you plan to move your speakers around frequently, this is the best, and also the most cost effective solution. Jerry Rappaport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 ---------------- On 7/14/2004 10:14:02 AM damonrpayne wrote: Long runs of twisted pairs wire also build up Capacitance, the same properties that make it resistant to interference will wreck your high end. That is science, not "magic wire" mumbo jumbo. ---------------- I'd be interested to see the numbers on this (not that I don't believe you, just that I'd like to see the data) - obviously if I'm doing my customers a disservice then I need to know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 I think that Monster consists of more effective marketing than anything else. The label "THX" is just about as meaningful as "REFERENCE". What an over-used sack of hooey! By the way, doesn't George Lukas$ have enough money already? Every THX license agreement for the use of the logo puts more money in his already overstuffed pockets. I for one refuse to buy into this scam! I swear, I'm seriously considering putting "REFERENCE" on everything I can think of to sell (if I ever do sell anything)... If you can't beat them join them. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 ---------------- On 7/15/2004 10:16:33 AM Griffinator wrote: ---------------- On 7/14/2004 10:14:02 AM damonrpayne wrote: Long runs of twisted pairs wire also build up Capacitance, the same properties that make it resistant to interference will wreck your high end. That is science, not "magic wire" mumbo jumbo. ---------------- I'd be interested to see the numbers on this (not that I don't believe you, just that I'd like to see the data) - obviously if I'm doing my customers a disservice then I need to know about it. ---------------- That gets back to the lab vs. ear debate. Reguardless of what the wire shows on lab equiptment, will you actually HEAR the difference, or notice it? Thats the big question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzoz01 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 ---------------- On another note, what wire do you use for rear speakers? Z1 and other high-grade wire is fine for the fronts since it's short distance, but what do you use for rears that require 20+ feet? ---------------- Z1 in the rear and Z4 for the fronts and center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich0372 Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 I second MIT I hade monter and tryed MIT it made a noticable difference speaker cable DOES MATTER if you use cheap cable you will not get all the sonic benifits Its the same thing as getting a corrvette and putting on cheap tires if you have expensive gear {amps speakers etc} you can afford good wires Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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