Coytee Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Just sitting here reading stuff before going to bed listneing to music over my Promedias. Got to thinking... wouldn't it be interesting (?) if you could build some K-horns that are like 12" tall (inches, not feet) and use them for pc (I have walls and could use "corner speakers" that are about 15" tall or less. Anyway, got to thinking that might be an interesting endeavour for the sake of it... if I were to pursue that, where might one get drawings and more importantly, drivers... what kind/size driver might one use. I realize with size you'd have some tradeoffs probably, so it's not endeavour to reproduce smaller sonic version of khorns (though interesting if it could) just letting my mind think some prior to bed and thought it might be a fun project just for the sake of it. ok guys... shoot my idea full of holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 There you go: http://www.netpath.net/~walkert/speco-1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_shadow Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 http://www.royaldevice.com/custom3.htm You don't want your speakers to put you to sleep, you want them to wake you up. Scaled down versions do exist, Bose audio products might interest you. But if your interest remains with life-size audio then learn about T-lines and enclosures and you will find that today's audio gear is already "scaled" Its a sound wave, you can manipulate it but you must sacrifice something else to acheive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Unfortunately, the physics of a soundwave doesn't change with size, so kiss goodbye to any real bass response. If they sounded good small, they'd be all over the place! DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted September 20, 2004 Author Share Posted September 20, 2004 Ok dudes...I already have some LaScallas that I bought back in about 1980/81, so I UNDERSTAND the realities about size... sigh Do we have/listen to Promedias? Coldn't you clone them to "look" like a K horn? out of fun for ntohing else? I'll look at website, was only a question to make something crafty & sound nice, not to compete with the real deal (which I know well, tyvm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted September 21, 2004 Author Share Posted September 21, 2004 Now that I'm more awake & re-read this..I'm still a bit letdown with the sophormic responses... I've come to expect more from you people here. Now with that said, maybe I'll clarify my comment (IE, repeat what I said in beginning) and see if you can better comprehend the question. First... let's see a raise of hands... how many of you use your Khorns for your PC speakers? Hmm.. let's see those hands now... how about use LaScallas for your pc??? If you read the initial question it DOES point out that FOR USING WITH YOUR PC, which seems to me, will INHERENTLY have "less" bass than a full sized Khorn/other? Perhaps, even less bass than an Academy (of which I have 3) Sigh again. Ok.. so let's clarify this Setup: Right now as you are reading this, you are possibly listening to something/anything over some little tinny sounding PC speakers. Don't you think it would be at least semi-cool/nice/interesting if instead of looking at what ever little tin box you are looking at, you could be looking at a "downsized clone" of a LaScalla, or Khorn or Bell or another? I've read some sympathies for something about people being laid off in Hope because production slowed down... well.. what if these very same people could make these? this would make them "real" and not "clones" anymore, AND help keep the core of people gainfully employed so they'd be there when orders of the BIG stuff came in. Frankly, FOR A PC speaker, I'd be tickled pink to be able to purchase a baby brother to my Lascallas... Oh.. and "no bass"??? Well, don't many pc speakers (look under your desk maybe) use a "sub"??? well, gee... would it not be possible to use SAME thing to help out? NO ONE said/asked/inferred that these scaled down versions would have to have same output as the "real deal". As cool as it may be... who would WANT to be sitting at their pc with some full sized LaScallas blistering their ears 3' away? Geez people read what's said, open your mind a bit & comprehend. Now, go ahead & shoot holes in my comments, but at least, make it towards my idea & not out in left field. Let's reiterate so you dont forget... I'm NOT talking about a 12" tall Khorn for use in your HOME sound system, ok? did you get it this time? Again, it's for PC use. sigh again. I woke up an hour ago and it still got under my skin (your inability to read) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 What djk posted is a bifurcated path, folded horn called the cobreflex, produced by EV / university sound. It is of the same construction as the k-horn bass bin, although it uses a compression driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpg Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 I designed a mini-La Scala using a 4.5" midbass in a folded horn and a fairly efficient dome tweeter. Maybe I had small horns in there too... I forget- it was a long time ago. I never built it either... I was just bored. It would be pretty cool. I did actually build a horn-loaded speaker for computer use once... but only made one and gave up the project because I was too lazy to make another. It used a 3" speaker and had audible response to 30Hz. Oh, and it was build in a shoebox, too. So it was heel-loaded. I added a tweeter on top that really brought the sound alive. It was pretty neat... everyone I showed it to loved it. Maybe if I get some spare time after I build my new sub I'll look at this again... Using a small horn, bass response will be shot, but if you can manage 120Hz or so out of it, you'd be fine. ProMedia's are crossed over at 160Hz or something even... so 120Hz would be somewhat better and should be attainable, I think. Horn tweeters/midrange would be a problem. You'd probably have to just settle with a single dome tweeter, or maybe a piezo driver. Unless there are some ultra tiny horn tweeters I haven't seen... except for those on PM's, I have not seen any available for direct purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Coytee, Excellent idea.....I would buy them because with smaller size comes smaller price tag and k-horns do look pretty darn good. Of course they have not yet made the hummer small enough yet to fit my budget. .......Pat....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriven Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 ---------------- On 9/21/2004 3:17:09 AM Coytee wrote: ... how many of you use your Khorns for your PC speakers? ... ---------------- Richard, In answer to your question, I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 Mark, that IS too cool ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriven Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Actually, the one I am sitting at now uses cheep speakers but one of my PCs is set up to handle AV material and is located near the stereo, now growing into surround, system. That one has an optical digital output that runs to the pre/proc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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