stormin Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Hi all, Just picked up a pair of chorus II's in pretty nice shape. Only one problem, the K-48-E woofer is bad in one of the speakers. The gentleman i bought these off of also put new binding posts in and im not sure if he messed up the x-over as well or if it is just a woofer issue. One speaker seems just fine but this one even caused my amp to shut down at low volume. So im concerned about not only a woofer issue but a x-over problem as well. I did the battery test on the woofer just to make sure it is bad. And it is. All of the connections are fine. Could the woofer cause the amp to trip its breaker at a fairly low volume or does that sound like another issue? Does klipsch still sell these woofers and x-overs? Thanks any and all for the help. And glad to be back in the klipsch family again. Now all i need is a pair of Craigs VRD mono blocks. Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Switch the questionable woofer to the goosd speaker perhaps. Sounds like the guy messed them up a bit. I have never neded replacement parts from Klipsch; they are supposed to ahve good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 Thanks Audio Flynn for the response. Yeah i think he did just that. Well i used a 9-volt to test the woofer and there is no pop or sound when i touch the woofer terminals on the questionable woofer. On the good woofer it popped as it should with the battery test. I also thought the replacement woofer use to be a K-48-K now they call it a K-48-E so who knows. Another difference between these december 7th,1993 chorus II's from my original 1990 chorus II's i use to own are the magnets on the woofers arent marked. Just a klipsch sticker on back of the magnet. Still not sure if the x-over is fried or not but i guess i will swap woofers to check that out, hope it doesnt damage that woofer as well. The tweeter and midrange seem to be working fine on the questionable speaker but they dont sound exactly the same as the good speaker but that could also be a factor of the woofer not working. Looks like i will be calling 1-800-klipsch in the morning. These are a nice looking pair though. Oak oil with black grills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 no fun troubleshooting a component that most likely was abused a bit. hope the price was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 Well i ended up switching out the woofers and it turns out its just a woofer issue. Seller told me he played them friday to make sure everything was ok and he said it was. But i think he might have accidentally arced the terminals and melted the voice coil in the woofer. Seller also told me he would take care of the cost of the replacement so that might turn out ok. It's weird though, all my years with chorus II's and i have never seen a woofer go bad. But then again i try not to make mistakes with or overdrive my speakers. As long as klipsch has a replacement in stock i should be up and running pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 Fedex made it to my door today. With a brand new K 48 woofer. And what to my suprise. This thing isnt even close. About the only thing the same between the new and old woofer is they are both 15's. Maybe tech support made an error as far as there not being any changes to the K 48's over the years. Looks like i should have just sent the old woofer off to get the new voice coil could of saved a boat load. And the saga continues.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Randy, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for them. Shoot me a PM if you don't want to air that info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 Hey Moon, Nah its no secret. In 1990 my first pair cost me 1650 Then in 1996 bought another pair for 1000 Again in 2000 bought another pair for 800 This pair i got for 650 and only had to drive 70 miles And the seller did pay better than half for the new woofer but to get the wrong woofer or what they call a replacement was dissapointing to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Not bad. I know of a guy who has a pair he will sell me for 550.00. I really would like to have them. However, the wife corrected me last night and informed me just how much I DON'T want them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 LOL I hear that. I tell ya i've been through so many different types of speakers and i just keep coming back to these chorus II's. For 550 i personally just cant see how you could go wrong. This time around theres gonna be some tube monoblocs for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 But i am thinking chuck might be on to something with his mccormacks. I have an audible illusions preamp sitting around here that i might just try a mccormack amp with. These 15's like power but we all know we need smooth horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I don't have my collecton of crossover schematics gathered from this friendly place. Does the Chorus have a second order filter for the bass? Our moderator pointed out that when the woofer voice coil is removed (by disconnection or burn-out), the L and C in the circuit causes a dead short to ground at its resonance frequency. This may account for the amp tripping out even though the voice coil is open. Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 "However, the wife corrected me last night and informed me just how much I DON'T want them." Don't you get tired of wearin' the dress in that relationship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 ---------------- On 1/31/2005 9:15:39 PM mike stehr wrote: "However, the wife corrected me last night and informed me just how much I DON'T want them." Don't you get tired of wearin' the dress in that relationship? ---------------- ***. It's called picking your battles my friend, picking your battles. if i was DEAD set on getting them, I would have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 ---------------- On 1/31/2005 10:02:17 PM m00n wrote: ---------------- On 1/31/2005 9:15:39 PM mike stehr wrote: "However, the wife corrected me last night and informed me just how much I DON'T want them." Don't you get tired of wearin' the dress in that relationship? ---------------- ***. It's called picking your battles my friend, picking your battles. if i was DEAD set on getting them, I would have them. ---------------- Ha! OK, OK, when push comes to shove, you do don pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Yeah, should have seen her when I had my belles. She was pissing and moaning the entire time I had them. Got rid of them because I took money away from my theater funds to buy them. Decided my theater was more important than my belles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 ---------------- On 1/31/2005 10:09:14 PM m00n wrote: Yeah, should have seen her when I had my belles. She was pissing and moaning the entire time I had them. Got rid of them because I took money away from my theater funds to buy them. Decided my theater was more important than my belles. ---------------- Who could EVER forget that saga! You were so freaked out when your tweeter(?) didn't work. I would have loved to have been there to see you running between your speakers and computer that night. No wonder your wife is a little leary of you buying another pair of used speakers. Stormin, I'd call Klipsch tomorrow and get your money back. You'd be better off searching for one on ebay if the sound isn't the same. Another option is to get 2 new ones as long as they sound as good as the originals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 ---------------- On 1/31/2005 10:02:17 PM m00n wrote: if i was DEAD set on getting them, I would have them. ---------------- Don't see why you'd mention them... if you didn't really want them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 Just a little update. Decided to keep the new woofer....K 48 EP. Looks a litte different but with about 20 hours or so the sound is evening out nicely. Its the pro version of the K 48 E. Which turns out is all klipsch carries for replacement at this time. But all is not lost because they do still sell the kit for the K 48 E. As a side note......Steve Philips and the technical support team for klipsch are just fantastic. I believe you will have to look long and hard to find a better bunch of folks. They were very supportive and helpful all the way. Klipsch needs to make sure they take good care of these folks and keep them around for a long long time. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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