No Disc Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Upgraded from the VPI Scout to the Scoutmaster with Ring Clamp and Stainless Steel center clamp. Big upgrade over the Scout. Improvement in all areas. Most notable are more authoritative presentation, lower noise floor, more soundstage - huge in fact, very defined instruments, huge slam factor. I'm in analog heaven. No Disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 VERY nice! What cables do you use for your analog setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 It's listed in my sytem config. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Nice! Very nice!! Did the make you do it? The Scoutmaster is what I was looking at before I went for that sexy Italian. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted March 11, 2005 Author Share Posted March 11, 2005 Rick, I think your table is better looking than the Scoutmaster, very sexy indeed. I honestly didn't consider any other tables before making my move. I like the Scout and already knew my cartridge mated well with my tonearm and phono preamp. It was a no-brainer for me. No Disc ---------------- On 3/11/2005 7:44:26 PM 3dzapper wrote: Nice! Very nice!! Did the make you do it? The Scoutmaster is what I was looking at before I went for that sexy Italian. Rick ---------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Hey No Disc, you show me yours, I'll show you mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jorjen Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Uno Mas! Oh yes, that is a Blueberry mated with a pair of VRD's behind that door by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. patrick Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 ah, Jordan my friend, it is looking very nice indeed. Let's see: nice wife, good son, BB, VRD's, scoutmaster, and Khorns......it just don't get much better than that........................unless, of course, a guy was lucky enough to get some CW's in Cherry Best Regards, Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Jordan, Good stuff but are you running those VRD's in the cabinet with the BB above them ? Your going to burn that stuff up they all need some breathing room. In fact the VRD's shouldn't be stacked one above the other. Man I bet it gets a 150 degrees in there in no time maybe more? Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Hey Patrick, how the heck are ya? I'll pass your comments along to Debbie and John. Craig, Don't worry my friend, the cabinet back is removed, the door is always wide open when playing and I have fans blowing accross the VRD's. The supplies and tubes don't even get that hot. Geez, do you really think I would do that to your babies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 My babies no way those are your babies ! I just had to make sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 Jordan, I considered the Ginko platform but elected not to go that route. Ultimately I felt the biggest sonic benifit could be gained from isolating the motor from the table itself, something I didn't think would be easy to do with the Ginko setup. With my setup the motor is isolated from the table and plinth while at the same time being de-coupled from external vibrations. Below is a picture of what I did with my Scout before I sold it. I have a similar setup for the Scoutmaster. Note the motor does not rest on the same surface as the table. Motor vibration is removed from the sonic mix so the background sound is much blacker and more music can be heard. This was a huge tweak. Motor isolation is what I feel sets apart the Super ScoutMaster and HRX from the lower tables. Vibrapods separate the two wood sheets which provides the decoupling of the table from external sources and also decoupling the motor from the table. Works very well. No Disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 No Disc, Excellent idea, I cannot believe I did not consider that! Brain Fart I guess. I think I have already come up with a way to isolate the motor by using a metal/steel "U" shape motor mounting bracket/platform approx. 5-6 inches in width. The bottom of the bracket will fasten to the top of the cabinet between the bottom of the Gingko and the top of the cabinet. The bracket/mount will then bend up(at a 90 upwards)the side of the Gingko and when it reaches the top of the platform it will bend in towards the center of the table(at a 90 inwards)and slip in between the top of the Gingko and motor feet. A slight gap will exist between the underside of the bracket and the top of the Gingko thus isolating the motor. I am going to get on it right away. I will post pics when it is complete. Thanks for the heads up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Maybe this drawing will make the idea more clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 That should work. Please post pics and after mod impressions on the sonic improvment. Glad I could help. I think you will like the result. - No Disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigma Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 No Disc, What is the purpose of the Ring Clamp? Does it clamp the LP or just act as a flywheel? Rigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Disc Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 The ring clamp has a few purposes. One it helps to mate the vinyl with the platter surface and also it helps dampen the vibrational energy. It also adds mass and inertia to the effect. No Disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Man! You guys have some incredible looking TT anti-vibration setups! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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