J.4knee Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Michael, I think you are sweating the timbre mismatch a little too much here. Heritage works well with Heritage. If you were going to run a Ref C7 or some other line as you center in between two LS and fill in the surrounds the same way I would caution you, yes there will be a very noticeable timbre mismatch. But IMO your CW should fit nicely into that type of rig. Right now I am running my system with my LS mains and H II's for center and surrounds. I am still working on my Split LS center. That is the downside of having a spare Heritage, no sense of urgency to complete my project. There is some noticeable timbre mismatch but I believe that is due to my LS having brand new Al K Universal A replacements networks and my H II's running 20 year old networks. From a movie perspective it is pretty amazing. If you add CW's to LS you will obviously get a very deep bass from you center and surrounds, that is a good thing. Choosing the correct sub will be a necessity, I have yet to do that although after the pilgrimage the THX Ultra II's have me pretty impressed. R/Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Jim said, "After the pilgrimage, the THX Ultra II's have me pretty impressed." I was too, and bought the Klipsch KA 1000 THX amp, with 2 KW120 THX subs from Ovation Audio. They gave me a good deal too. Like I said, you CAN purchase this separately if you like... just be persistent with the manager of your local Klipsch authorised dealer store.. Obviously, he wouldlike to sell you the whole THX system, but I was able to order mine separately with no problem. All I can say is... OMG! There will never be a need for bass shakers at all! Anyone looking for a "Heritage sub" THIS is it! 7 LA Scalas all split al AL-3 networks I got very, very, lucky! Add the amp n subs.. Woo Hooo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Let's see, I've got $500 in CW pair, $750 in LS pair, $300 in center CW, that's $1550 total in all my speakers for main system. Does it make sense to put a $4000 sub system with that? I know I got everything at a steal of a price, but it seems unbalanced. Perhaps if I consider retail value. $4000 for LS, $2000 CW, $1000 for center, that would be about $7k in speakers, still sound like a lot of sub, adding $4k to that total. Perhaps a Dayton Titanic would complement this well? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Michael. No not $4000 in a sub. Listen. If you go to audioreview.com you will see rave reviews on the HSU research TN 1220. I have two of them. They are no longer in production. They matched the La Scalas perfectly. Now again if my memory serves me, you have some Crown amps to use. Well, you can use your own amp on these. You could get by with $800 bucks of 2 from Ebay if you search carefully. They will come up. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Again for the amp and 2 subs..thats 3900 MSRP.. I have a good feeling a lot less is needed to buy these ... And in your case less is needed since with wooden floors. I really doubt you need 2 subs.. so there is 1250 off... so 2650 MSRP and again some off of that too. Starting to look better? + - 2 k for a killer sub sytem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Dean's son has a Dayton Titanic MkIII 15" 1000 watt unit for $350. I wonder how musical it is . It's an $800 retail unit. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I still say just set it up in your house over the weekend and enjoy!! I KNOW you already have enough speakers to do it.. hehehehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Michael, The THX Ultra II's will not be overkill, they will sound like they were designed just for a Heritage set up. Trust us on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lshannon Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I have tried a La Scala Center with Vertical Cornwalls (Front - Left/Right) and Commercial Cornwalls Rear (L/R). I like them very much. I don't notice any mismatch. I would recommend it. - Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 I would LOVE to get a pair of those KP301's or the CP1. Have you been inside them? Is it the standard complement of drivers or is the woofer different? If you have it, could you post any info sheets you have on this cabinet? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 I have found using the cornwalls with LS that the cornwalls had to much bass for rear surrounds,There are many other speakers that would be a great match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted October 15, 2005 Author Share Posted October 15, 2005 Paul, respectfully I ask the question 'how can you possibly have too much bass in the surrounds'? If an on-screen movement means that there should be a bass-heavy sound effect occuring in BACK of me, I want to be hit in the BACK of the head with it. So long as the rears don't overpower the mains, I don't see how it could be a problem. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Paul, respectfully I ask the question 'how can you possibly have too much bass in the surrounds'? If an on-screen movement means that there should be a bass-heavy sound effect occuring in BACK of me, I want to be hit in the BACK of the head with it. So long as the rears don't overpower the mains, I don't see how it could be a problem. I think it's a matter of perspective/taste...the people that actually like the lascala (especially without a subwoofer) simply don't like to hear the low end recorded on their source material (I can even think of a few reasons why that might be the case considering the typical source material of lascala lovers). [] The same goes for people that like the heresy without a sub as well - some peole inadvertanly hear low end as a "bad thing." There is no reason why a speaker with a wider frequency range should sound any worse. But to make the claim requires that something is wrong with the recording itself; specifically that there is low frequency information that is destroying the sound. If there is no information below a certain point on the source material, then a speaker with a wider range isn't going to be playing lower notes. So it comes down to the recording itself and there's nothing we can do about it...So if we implement a speaker system to remove a flaw in a bad recording, then we are going to lose important information in a good recording - information that greatly adds to the enjoyment of the movie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 colterphoto1 wrote: Paul, respectfully I ask the question 'how can you possibly have too much bass in the surrounds'? when i listen to 4 speaker surround stereo music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted October 15, 2005 Author Share Posted October 15, 2005 oh yeah, then obviously. I don't do much music listening with the surround modes on. Usually 2 ch music or 5 ch music DVD's. If I was using the delay modes with music that I can see how it could become overwhelming... good observation Paul. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Well if you are listening and watching movies i would track down a pair of fortes for the rear and lascalas up front .fortes sound much better than cornwalls any way and you save a little room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Michael.... I am running a pair of Belle's for stereo & have JUST setup the Cornwall's in the rear, replacing the Heresy surrounds, & will soon be working on a CW center. They are seamless & seem to match perfectly. I am mostly using them for 5 channel music now & really like them, In movie surround mode, I still get better effects from the Heresy's. I think its mainly because of the placement. The Heresy's are right behind the sofa, on 4' stands. The CW's are 10' feet behind the sofa (against the wall), & on 2' stands. It would be real ugly if I tried to move the HUGE CW's up to where the Heresy's are now. For music, there is no comparison, the whole room is filled perfectly with music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Just in case... Assuming you have the capability on your receiver, please be sure to adjust the CW surrounds' delay settings in the receiver!!!!! This will make a significant difference in the perceived quality of the surrounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Been there, done that, many times. I spent about 3 months trying to prove to myself that I could make the CW's sound better for all modes, but couldn't. The surround is simply better with the speakers close to the sofa, & music is better using the whole room. I am now trying to figure out a way to setup a switch so I can use Heresy's for movies & the Corn's for music..... without having to change the delay & DB settings every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I think it's a matter of perspective/taste...the people that actually like the lascala (especially without a subwoofer) simply don't like to hear the low end recorded on their source material (I can even think of a few reasons why that might be the case considering the typical source material of lascala lovers). [] HUH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I don't even know where to begin![][][][:S] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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