Erik Mandaville Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Thought I'd mention a great contemporary jazz album from one of the former drummers of YES, Genesis, and King Crimson. This is Bill Bruford's Earthworks: A part and yet apart. Outstanding recording, and great music. I'm sure some of you may have heard of this or perhaps own it, but IMO very good. As always, Bruford stitches and rivets the fabric of notes together with incredible precision and unexpected time signatures. I have my system set up where one can switch between two channel (Moth and my own quad 6SN7 preamp) and multi-channel mode with the Lexicon and other amps and speakers. It's fun to listen to stereo once in awhile, and this album is particularly good sounding in stereo. Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 new pix ...where's yer suit, and tie .......??? saaay, looks like you've gained a bit'o weight, too ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Mr. Spinner: "new pix ...where's yer suit, and tie .......??? saaay, looks like you've gained a bit'o weight, too ....." Is there something you would like to say? The statement above seems rather incomplete. Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkrop Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Welcome back, don't stay away so long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2RockU Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I have always missed Erik ! Erik, You don't know how happy I am to see you posting again. ~ Welcome back. ( ps- I bought a Jolida JD 100a Tube cd player w/ the Performance Mod 1 upgrade today... to go w/ my new VRD's ! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Hey Erik, thanks for the info., Bruford is in my top 10 of favorite drummers. I will surely ad that to the collection! Oh, Alan White can't carry his sticks!!! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardP Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Thought I'd mention a great contemporary jazz album from one of the former drummers of YES, Genesis, and King Crimson. : Erik Erik: I have always liked Bill Bruford too, but have not heard Earthworks. Can you tell me what type of jazz it is, what other jazz artists do they sound like, etc.? I'd like to know a bit before I buy it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyKubicki Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Hi Erik and all! I love ANYTHING that da Bruf has touched musically. Not that this has much of Bruf in it, only a little bit on one cut, but if you like female vox, check out Voices of life. It was produced by Eddie Jobson. It's all choir music sung by the Bulgarian Women's Choir. My fav two cuts are Utopia (not to be confused with Utopian Heights, a tune I wrote, hehe) which features the choir with Tony Levin's Stick playing aand Jobson on electric violin, and Zavesata Pada, also by Jobson with a haunting refrain-beuatiful, especially on the Horns! The rest is mainly Bulgarian Classical music. http://www.bulgarianwomenschoir.com/ edit: The above link seems to end, try this http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Voices%20of%20Life:1921477711;_ylt=AiY2AM3PY41veI3SRvZmc.VUvQcF;_ylu=X3oDMTBzZTVhM3RqBF9zAzk1OTUxMTEzBGx0AzQEc2VjA2FydHByb2Q- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J M O N Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Erik: Glad to see you back. Hope you stick around. We need more people like you around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyKubicki Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Hey Richard, just go to http://www.billbruford.com/bill/audio.html and sample more than just one album, well, parts of albums anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Mr. Spinner: "new pix ...where's yer suit, and tie .......??? saaay, looks like you've gained a bit'o weight, too ....." Is there something you would like to say? The statement above seems rather incomplete. Erik i was comparing this avatar ...to your previous one .....[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai2000 Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Hi, Erik good to see you posting again.....you have indeed been missed [<)]. Wolfram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 Spinner: That's clear. You will have to pardon me -- I'm pretty slow on the uptake sometimes! Just briefly: I guess I just needed some time off from this place to sort of put some things into better perspective. I've also done some work on my electronics, mainly to get the Moth amp working as well as it might with the Lexicon processor. I think I've achieved that, but the amp is a 'Moth' only in terms of its 'house' (I'm referring to the chassis). The power supply and input and output stages were completely rebuilt and fine-tuned by listening. In terms of the math things work out fine, but the only test equipment I have are my ears and my system -- especially headphones, which have enabled me to sort of put the thing under a microscope. The Teac has been flawless, almost to a fault! But it also provided some of the very best sound we've had here. However, it did help confirm the fact that I will never be able to just leave things alone. I have another idea for the Moth, for example, but enough is enough -- at least for the next couple of weeks! IOW, every speaker in the system is connected, by way of an output transformer, to a 2A3 triode (AVVT Meshplates/KR Enterprise/NOS RCA -- thanks again Wolfram!). Poor speakers, right?[] Andy: I have to check out that info. you included. Jobson was awesome with U.K., and I am interested in getting that music. These guys show up in curious places! Craig/Born2 -- hey, Craig -- of course knows all about this! I actually preferred Bruford with U.K. than Bozzio, although I think that might have just been because I like Bruford's style better for the music. Terry Bozzio is a REALLY good drummer, who can do more things with two feet than lots of drummer can with feet and arms combined. Craig/Born2 played an album for me by Jordan Rudess (or is it 'Rodiss' -- how is that spelled, Craig?), and Bozzio is incredible, as is the whole album. So, I'm off for a bit-o-soldering. I'm going to bypass the volume control on one of the three inputs on the Moth, so that it can be used strictly as a power amp for surround-sound mode. The potentiometer on it is not the best. It was an old one I grabbed out of my parts bin when the wiper lifted off, during play, of the supposedly better-quality one I got. Ouch!!! It's one reason to stop using those carbon strip pots, and go for fixed resistors in a switch. I've asked Santa for the stepped attenuator kit from Transcendent sound. Very well made, good price, fun to build. Take it easy, Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2RockU Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Erik, You were correct on Jordan's last name spelling, ...it is indeed Rudess. He is the keyboard player for the famous Prog Rock band...Dream Theater. Bozzio did an incredible job on this one. Rudess just put out another cd that follows up that cd I played for you. Here are some links for ya, if ya haven't been keepin' up on Jordan's releases :http://www.jordanrudess.com/home.shtml Feeding the Wheel - CD Jordan's most aggressive solo project to date! Take a journey to intense new worlds of musical expression. Join Jordan on a magical journey of a radical emotional and progressive adventure! Special guests include Terry Bozzio (Frank Zappa, Missing Persons), Mark Wood, John Petrucci (Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment) and Steve Morse (Dregs, Deep Purple).Track Listing:Click on the linked song titles to hear an MP3 clip of the song1. The Voice (Intro)2. Quantum Soup3. Shifting Sands4. Dreaming in Titanium5. Ucan Icon6. Center of the Sphere7. Crack the Meter8. Headspace9. Revolving Door10. Interstices11. Feed the Wheel Jordan Rudess - Rhythm of Time Jordans newest solo rock album release featuring guitarists Joe Satriani, Steve Morse, Greg Howe and Vinnie Moore as well as drummer, Rod Morgenstein and other guest artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 Craig: Those look interesting! thanks for the lead on that. Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2RockU Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I am really loving "progressive" music. It's aggressive but not sloppy ; snappy rhythms with great chord progressions. Ya can't go wrong w/ Rudess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 BKrop: Thanks for the welcome back -- I appreciate that! Richard: I'm sorry I didn't respond to your question. Earthworks is really a sort of mix of very progressive/modern jazz, with moments of fairly traditional sounding swing thrown in here and there for contrast. Bruford is a very versatile drummer, and he seems to be able to play anything -- very well. I can say that the money on any of the Earthworks stuff would be well spent. Moreover, the recording is exceptional, I think. It's fun, very lively and energetic music. Just lots of fun, with great musicianship. I've got some other recent work of his if you're interested. One is an album he did with 12-string virtuoso, Ralph Towner. Amazing stuff. I think you might like Ralph Towner without Bruford. I still have all his former albums carefully stored in our vinyl collection. Speaking of which, I'm in the process of building a dedicated two-channel vinyl listening area in my workroom. It's an attic build-out I did for myself a couple of years ago, and has plenty of space for my Lowther horns, probably a pair of 45 monoblock tube amps, and a tubed phone stage (if I can get it quiet enough!) If not, I'll buy a quiet SS one! There just isn't too much more I can think to do to the main rig to improve it, so working on another system for analog only playback will be a blast. I've got lots of Bruford's work on records, too. Erik This new forum format is great!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardP Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Thanks Erik. I only know BB from Yes and KC, but from that knew that he was not your run-of-the-mill muscle-head drummer. I asked about the style of jazz, because I have been burned in the past when a non-jazz artist ventures into the jazz domain; many end up with those syrupy styles/selections of "jazz" that sound more or less like KennyG [:'(] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyKubicki Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Thanks Erik. I only know BB from Yes and KC, but from that knew that he was not your run-of-the-mill muscle-head drummer. I asked about the style of jazz, because I have been burned in the past when a non-jazz artist ventures into the jazz domain; many end up with those syrupy styles/selections of "jazz" that sound more or less like KennyG [:'(] If you heard Bruf being interviewed, you would hear him talking about how as a kid, he listened to guys like Joe Morello (sp?), drummer for Dave Brubeck. He talks about Earthworks and jazz as a return to his roots. Hard to believe watching him play with KC, eh? His earlier Earthworks days had more electronic equipment, like hitting a pad and a chord would play...very creative stuff. His music will definately take you places musically. Go back even further if you like kindof a jazz-rock-fusion mix where he plays with Jeff Berlin (a very hot bass player), Dave Stewart (hot keyboard player). Check out One of a Kind, or Gradually Going Tornado on that link I gave. That's another flavor of Bruf. One of the best prog albums was UK. Saddly, there was only one with Bruf and Holdsworth, though the other UK album, Danger Money is also quite good, but the absence of Holdsworth is evident. Bozzio was quite good there. Happy listening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Andy: Thanks for mentioning that other work; those are the albums I was thinking about. I really liked Holdsworth's work, as well. I went to clinic/demo Bruford did here for Simmons Drums (think I've got that spelled right), and he was playing an enormous, all electronic kit -- cymbal triggers, high-hat, everything. Maybe the snare was acoustic....can't remember now. I went to the advertisement (which is really what it was) hoping he would talk about some of the things Andy mentioned from other interviews, but there was nothing like that. He played very well, though, and that was fun to watch. Richard: I know what you are saying about Kenny G. and syrupy 'jazz.' I also don't thing his music really qualifies the jazz classification, but I suppose that ascription is partly the result of a lack of a better way to categorize it. Bruford's Earthworks is nothing like that. I don't have a single album of Mr. G, although I have everything Pat Metheny has done. Eberhard Weber is another long-time favorite contemporary jazz composer for me. Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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