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@GroovyTuesday First off, I'm sorry for your loss. I think the first thing you need to do is determine what you'd be willing to sell them for, which of course needs to be in line with what others would be wiling to pay (unless you want to keep them). Obviously, your price will need to be less that what they could be acquired for new, which would include shipping. You should determine what the current price of new ones are. There haven't been very many used ones for sale, so you have that going for you. However, their size, weight, and price will limit buyers. I think I've only seen three sets for sale used. I recall asking prices ranged from about $22-27k (for the pair), so you'll probably need to be somewhere near that range. Once you determine your sales price, here are a few places you can sell: 1. Right here on the Klipsch Forum garage sale section. Odds are, the people that know about these speakers are already looking here. Posting is free. 2. U.S. Audio Mart. This is now a well-known site for selling audio gear. It's currently free to post. 3. Audiogon. This site has been around for 20+ years. It used to be free, then the cost to post has been gradually going up to the point where it can be a bit expensive for what your speakers will sell for. 4. Facebook Marketplace. Only in the last couple of years have I realized how busy this site is, to the point where I now look here for many used items. I've not tried to sell anything here but I suspect you'd have to deal with the usual riff raff that you'd expect from Craigslist, but maybe less so. As a buyer, I've seen some of that from sellers. Posting is free. 5. eBay. This would allow you to get the highest bid, but of course you would have to pay eBay fees and you might have to be willing to arrange shipping. You could state local pick up only, but that could lead to closing bids that you have to cancel because the bidder didn't notice that. Buyers would also have to pay sales tax and they will likely factor that into how much they are willing to bid. With all these things considered, eBay may end up with a lower net sales price for you compared to other options. 6. Craigslist. I'd probably avoid this for what you are selling. The hassle probably won't be worth your time. But it is free and easy to post. There are other audio sites, such as Audio Asylum, that also have for sale sections, but I think they would be unlikely to draw anyone new that isn't already looking on the Klipsch forum. Of course, you can post in more than one place. Good luck with your sale.

In order to separate the contrived from the truth, here are the facts: I've also not seen anything stating where those refs have been removed from working games for the remainder of the season. They've been eliminated from working the playoffs, which is reserved for only the highest rated teams. I'm not defending the refs -- they botched the tripping penalty which would've rendered everything else moot had they made the correct call there.

Whenever an offensive lineman checks in as eligible, the refs have to notify the defense. That is the purpose for the notification. Assuming the refs messed up (contrary to their claim) and did get the wrong player checking in as eligible -- they would've notified the defense that #70 was checking in as an eligible receiver. Dallas wasn't expecting #68 to be catching a pass so they didn't have to cover him. Had Dallas been notified that #68 was eligible, none of us know if they would've covered him. However, it would be correct to say that if every call went against Dallas, then Detroit wins the game. If the correct calls were made throughout, then not so much as I explained previously. What is odd though is why the Lions sent three different offensive lineman towards the refs. Theories have been stated that they were trying to confuse the Cowboys but confused the refs instead to their own (possible) detriment. The Lions should know the refs are going to notify the defense which player has checked in to be eligible. As for Jerry Jones, I can't say I've always been pleased with the way he runs the team, but all owners recognize that he, more than anyone else, is most responsible for the huge amount of money that the NFL is raking in. Its the main reason he's in the Hall-of-Fame. Jerry has grown up over the years and he's a lot easier to like now. From a football perspective, winning has always been the most important to him and you can't say that about every NFL owner.

Looks like you've edited your post stating the Cowboys can't beat the Lions. Good to see I've convinced you otherwise. Of course the Cowboys can beat the best team in the league! Will they -- we'll have to see. Who knows, maybe it's them! On any given Sunday, any NFL team can beat any other NFL team. No team has zero losses.

And yes, the Cowboys are fully capable of beating the Lions -- they've already done so once this season.

Just to set the record straight on the CowBOYS / Lions game, the Refs had multiple errors (as usual). Linked below is the complete commentary from Adam Schefter where he brings up the erroneous tripping penalty that was called against the CowBOYS when it should've been been called against the Lions (somehow that portion was left out of the other link posted above). This was the drive just prior to the Lions scoring their final TD. The CowBOYS were penalized 15 yards instead of 15 yards being added to their run. Get that call correct, and the two-point conversion attempt never happens. "The latest controversy surrounding referee Brad Allen and his officiating crew -- involving an overturned 2-point conversion by the Lions -- may have been avoided if not for another missed call on the Cowboys' previous possession.The Cowboys owned a 17-13 lead when they intercepted Jared Goff at the Lions 29-yard line with with 2:05 remaining. Tony Pollard's 7-yard run on the ensuing play was called back after Dallas tight end Peyton Hendershot was called for tripping, setting the Cowboys up with a 1st and 25 on the Lions 44-yard line. Video of that initial first-down play, reviewed by ESPN, showed that Lions defensive end Aidan Hutchinson -- not Hendershot -- should have been the one flagged for attempting to trip Pollard. The NFL has not commented on the tripping call mistake as of Sunday morning." -- Adam Schefter https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39215679/officials-missed-tripping-call-lions-controversial-penalty As far as referee favoritism towards the CowBOYS, that couldn't be more incorrect as they've been the most penalized team in the league for most of the season. In fact, one of the most egregious referee issues that has been discussed for several weeks, including during Saturday's game, is that Micah Parsons, one of the most dominant players, has not drawn a single holding penalty in over 10 games. This is despite numerous video evidence of downright flagrant holding against him.

Got mine today. This must be proof that I do know my address! 😁 Thanks to those that came up with the idea, and also for those that put in the effort to make this a reality!

Today I received an e-mail requesting confirmation of my shipping address with 48 hours to make changes. My address was correct! 👍

I've got a dovetail walnut case that I'm probably not going to end up using if you find one without the case.

Those are some nice looking bookshelf speakers!! 😁

2023 Bump!

Gotcha -- I'd say if you have to stick your head inside the 402, you're going to get that from most systems. Not being able to hear that noise from your listening position should be the key part.

I had Triode Lab 2A3 SET Monos and they were absolutely not noisy. Check to see if they need attention or if the noise is coming from somewhere else.

Yes they are -- still sounding great! Thanks for the info!

Welcome back Mark! Glad to have you back! I do have a question for you that I've been wrestling with for the last few years and it is only because of my poor memory. Do the pCATs put out 20 or 25 WPC?

Exactly -- if they don't get to 1000 books sold, they won't print them and you'll get your money back. I'm also hearing they are only printing 1000 books, so don't delay in getting your order in or you could miss out.

Order here by placing a pledge: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loveinjectionnyc/the-dope-from-hope-book Should cost $80 with shipping to the U.S. P.S. I've got my pledge (pre-order) in. I hope this happens as I would really like to have all the Dope from Hope articles and having them in a nice book is much better than the handful of PDF copies I already have. $80 is a no-brainer for how much many of us spend on this stuff!

More advertising: https://www.audioasylum.com/forums/hug/messages/18/189250.html https://www.usaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3228

Looks like Audiogon has been taken care of: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/the-dope-from-hope#2520314

My pledge is in. Looks like there still approximately 335 books to go with 17 days remaining. Does anyone know if this has been posted on other audio forums?

A bit late in replying, but I've not used the SIT-3 with inefficient or demanding speakers. I don't really have any of those. With efficient Klipsch speakers, getting to live concert/reference levels isn't a problem.

The model "KDFR" stands for Klipschorn -- D-Style (decorator), with a finish of Fir Raw (unfinished). Basically the finish is just raw plywood, not even birch. I don't have the SN decoder handy, but the "E" in the serial number will indicate the year it was made. Based on all of the above, and the condition they are in, even with today's inflated prices, I'd estimate their value at about $1200. If someone offered $1000, I'd take it. This is probably not what you wanted to hear, but we're all just trying to help you establish what you would likely be able to sell them for.

It's been a while now but I picked up a First Watt SIT-3 amp. I haven't had a whole lot of free time to listen but have had sufficient time to believe this is unquestionably the best solid-state amp I've ever owned. In fact, I'm really having trouble differentiating the sound from the other tube amps that I own. I certainly need to spend more time listening and comparing them, but I could absolutely live with any of them as my only amp. The SIT-3 seems to only be at it's best when connected to a certain pre-amp that I have that has a higher output level than the others. But when it is with that particular pre-amp it sounds wonderful.

The Classé Audio Model Seventy was my very first Classé Audio power amplifier I had owned and is what sold me on the brand (again, not my photo nor is this of the amp I owned, but looks identical). This one has 70 watts / channel and also has both balanced and single-ended inputs. However, I don't believe it could be bridged to mono.