brian berube Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 A pair of Cornwalls for sale on ebay. The "dust caps" on the woofers have holes in them. Sellers contends there is no sound problem associated. My question to you experts is--can that be trusted? Do the woofers need to be replaced? Will I be able to pick up a "noise" as a result of these holes? I am running Khorns for my fronts and I would like to add these Cornwalls for rears and use Heresy's for center. I have always gotten good advice from you guys; I need it now. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'd go better than a Heresy for center. A Belle Klipsch or La Scala would be a major step up. IndyKlipschFan gets good results with a Cornwall for the center, but even so I think one of the fully horn-loaded choices would be better. The center is very important so don't scrimp there! Better to shortchange the surrounds than the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Older Cornwall woofers may have a 1/2" hole in the dustcap with an open weave cloth screen behind it. Later K33E have a 4-1/2" felt dustcap that breathes. If you have an old damaged dustcap, the newer ones fit over the top and cost about $1 each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Yes, I agree that looks like the screen vent in the dust cap is missing. It should not affect the sound and a replacement dust cap can be attached. Those are pretty nice birch decorator type Cornwalls, fairly rare. There is some signs of water and sunlight damage to the tops, but the veneer looks to be in pretty good shape. I'd contact to see if you can get photos of the side panels and look for deep scratches or chips. If not, these could easily be refinished to their full glory. In operational condition, these might go for $600-$1000 per pair. Please if you purchase them, PICK THEM UP PERSONALLY or arrange for personal transportation. These are too large and too heavy to be trusted to any freight carrier. If they are damaged in shipping, they cannot be replaced and you will be heartbroken. Good luck with your purchase. I'd buy them myself but the drive is too far for even me. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian berube Posted October 19, 2005 Author Share Posted October 19, 2005 You see this is why I posted the message; this was the kind of information I needed. I am going to keep my eye on these and see how it shakes itself out. I will keep you guys posted. Can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate the help. I am not an audiophile, but Klipsch speakers have been a part of my system(s) since 1985. I have owned Khorns (this is my second set; the first set called "bachelor speakers" by my wife were sold, like so many, because my wife thought they were too big. She relented last year, because we moved into a bigger house. I bought a beautiful pair of 1964 Khorns), Belle's, Chorus, 5.5, 3.5.etc. I am not a sophisticated audiophile, I just like clean, and if I am inclined, loud music; remember they are "A Legend in Sound". Thank you very much. Any other advice people have to offer I am all ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyholiday Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 the woofers are trash add the cost of R&R ,only the Klipsch spirits would know the shape of the other drivers,ebay is rarely plug an play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 i have to disagree with johnnyholiday, the woofers are probably not trash because of a dust cover, i would agree with michael !!!!!, i have had great success buying from ebay with many plug and play items for example my k-horns were from ebay and they are in what i would call a 9.8 on a scale of 1 thru 10, also my nakamichi rx 505 is a 9.9, my marantz model 2500 is a 9.5, my teak X1000R is a 9.0, all of which were plug and play and this is just a few items to make the point, and i bought all this gear at great prices couldnt have found it around here thats for sure just check there feedback, and trust your instincts Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyholiday Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Whats that on your scale,your dealing in fuzzy logic an so is johnyholiday an that woofer has been abused, ,johnyholiday could care less you disagree,an your 9.5 gear has no linkage what so ever, as neither does your many anxieties of convoluted gear transactions that have overflowed onto the Klipsch forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Johny is correct, dirt, dust, fuzz, etc. can get in that hole and contaminate the voice coil and voice coil gap once it gets in it is ain't coming out. Count on buying two new woofers for sure since you don't know how long they have been that way add $260 to the cost for the woofers. Anyone that says otherwise don't know jack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I knew a guy named Jack once, he was a good friend of mine, but he turned on me. The screens in the dust caps could have been pushed in by tiny fingers. However, if they were very brittle, the chances are that the rest of the cone/surround/spider assembly could be brittle as well. The cones appear to have more than a little bleaching due to sun exposure. So while they might play and make music today, they could be prone to tears or other means of disintegration soon. So it could be a short life. Regarding lint or debris in the voice coil gap, I'd say that any debris that could drift in there, including cone material itself, could cause overheating or shorting of the voice coil. I don't think anything light enought to get in there could damage the gap in the magnet itself though. If there is damage of any sort, I think the general consensus is to NOT recone the K33, but simply to purchase a new unit. The cost difference is negligible and you get less down time and more faith in a new unit. That being said, if they work, they work. Why not just try em out? If you hear undistorted music, have new dust caps affixed and you're in business. If not, be prepared for the $260 expenditure. As always, bid accordingly, from the wallet, not from your heart, although properly cared for, these are easily a pair of $1200 beauties in the waiting imho. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 "an your 9.5 gear has no linkage what so ever, as neither does your many anxieties of convoluted gear transactions that have overflowed onto the Klipsch forum" What did he say???? Johny, are you in some way making reference to my many Klispch purchases 'gear transactions'? Please translate into English before you light the pipe, man! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 The Cornwall's I bought a few months ago had a torn dust cover. They sound perfect when played, but there is a slight creaking noise from the coil when it is moved by hand. I am sure there is dirt in there, & it will be replaced as soon as I can afford. Here is the link to the ones I found...... http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/522532/ShowPost.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyholiday Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 had nothing to do with you colter ,it is of joe's perceived linkage of his 1 to 10 scale rating of his gear all 9 or above,an the drivers in question,were you carburetoring your Fiesta[<)][<)][<)] triple hose plug ****** water pipe with double clay bowls, during this thread an miss his post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I understand Johny, we are on the same paige no it was teakbowl filled overflowing bright christmass tree with green and red and droplets drooling over the side smoke curling into oblivion above my menaced brow how's that for johny-speak? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian berube Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 I'm glad you guys gave me the solid advice early into this thread, because I have to tell you I no longer "speak the language" being used here; I clearly am a novice. Should I consider finding out--probably in the home theater forum--if someone wants to split a pair of Cornwalls/Chorus for use as a center channel speaker? Ultimately, thanks for the great advice. Johny, great stuff. I am going to make a point of continuing to read your views--I want to learn your language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyholiday Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 The Cornwall's I bought a few months ago had a torn dust cover. They sound perfect when played, but there is a slight creaking noise from the coil when it is moved by hand. I am sure there is dirt in there, & it will be replaced as soon as I can afford. Here is the link to the ones I found...... http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/522532/ShowPost.aspx Could also be a slightly burnt voice coil and\ or dirt , think of the millions of cubic feet the cone has moved, an will move ,an how much air is pumped over the pole piece for cooling, filtration of this air is imperative, good luck with funding to expedite the driver retrofit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyholiday Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I understand Johny, we are on the same paige no it was teakbowl filled overflowing bright christmass tree with green and red and droplets drooling over the side smoke curling into oblivion above my menaced brow how's that for johny-speak? Michael [:-*]Amy colters in the den smoking grapevines again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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