bismarck Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I am brand new to this forum, and home theater thing so i hope i am not asking anything to ridiculous. I have just bought a synergy klipsch system. I get a discount on the series so i couldn't help but buy them. I am not an audiophile by any means, but definately want to learn. I am gonna be a poor college student next year, and want my speakers to last for a long time. I basically want to know what i can do to make sure my speakers don't blow, or i don't damage the former from to much bass or something. I am also not sure how loud i can turn up the reciever before damaging the speakers, or what crossover frequency i should have it set at. I bought b-3 pair c-2 s-2 pair yamaha HTR_5840 reciever and am waiting until my next paycheck to get the 12 or 10 inch sub, i don't know which one to get. If there are any guides or anything specific with my speakers i would greatly appreciate some help because i can't afford to ruin my speakers. Thanks[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 First off, definetly get the Sub-12, even if it means you have to wait an extra week or two to purcahse it. You will be most thankful in the long run. As far as protecting your speakers....just don't run your reciever into clipping. After calibrating the levels, you can be assured that you will never have clipping problems as long as you stay below "0" on the reciever. Just about all speaker damage occurs from overdriving the amp, NOT overdriving the speakers themselves. In fact, the speakers will sound distorted at levels far before any damage would start occuring, which would be your cue to turn down the volume. An amp on the other hand doesn't give any audible clues until it actually starts clipping....and a clipping amp sends DC which rips apart speakers like no other. Anyways, even the products in the synergy lineup have a very high sensitivity which means you get a lot of volume for less watts. In other words, your ears will be bleeding far before any clipping will occur. Congrats on your new setup and welcome to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 You should be fine so don't worry but...IF you listen VERY, VERY loud (like earplitting levels) then you want to make sure your tone or EQ controls (and loudness if you have it) are not set to boost anything, at very high listening levels any boost of frequencies could cause the amp to clip, as mentioned above, and you could burn a tweeter. Otherwise I would not worry at all and enjoy your new system! regards, tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istari Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Since they are going to be in a colllege set up, I would fuse them. Buy enough of the inline fuse holders and put one each in the + (Red) lead going to the speaker. These are easy enough to put in the speaker wire. I'd start with a 1 amp fast blow fuse. You can get both items at a Radio Shack or at Parts Express. You'll be glad you did the first time a fuse blows and saves your speaker!!!! Be sure and buy extra fuses for replacements.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bismarck Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 I swear i just posted this, but don't see it. So maybe I did something wrong. In a nutshell i was going to say thanks for the help so far. I have 2 more questions. I am wondering what soud level meter to get, since i can't find one on BB.com i looked at redio shack, like was suggested. I found 2 of them. Which one would be best? and should i use a tripod? http://www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2032222&cp=2032057.2032187.2032193 Also i am wondering about a "popping" sound. Right when i got everything hooked up i put in episode 1 and went to the podracing scene. I cranked the system, and eventually heard a popping sound from my left b-3. so i turned it down significantly. I figured i could crank my system and not worry about damaging anything because the sales men at Best Buy, my co-workers, told me i wouldn't have to worry about damaging my speakers because my reciever would go into "protective" mode. I watched xmen later and didn't notice any distortion or anything, so i think evrything is fine. I looked this up on the internet briefley and found an article telling me it was something to do with my "form or former" and a rod that was smacking against it or something? I was wondering what exactly happened, and if it was very bad for the speakers? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Toast ....sooner or later clipping, limit circut, or bottoming the woofer sounds like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 lol Duke, way to scare him off [] Are your speakers set to small in the reciever? I would definetly recommend that route... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bismarck Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 i had them set to large when that happened, but i changed them to small now. Since it only happened once, do you think it damged my speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 It's my understanding and I may be wrong.........no damage has occurred unless you can hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Sounds like you may need to protect the speakers from yourself! Best protection in your case might be the 5-step "Egg-Alert" system. 1] Get some eggs (hardboiled) from the cafeteria, wait a while for them to come up to room temperature if they are cold (so as not to leave condensation spots on the speakers). Also, starting at room temperature shortens the break-in period for the eggs. 2] Carefully place one egg in the center on top of each speaker. Don't try to support them with anything to hold them in place or constrict their movement - they need to be "free range" and able to move easily about. 3] When you "crank" the volume keep an eye on the eggs - a little rolling is acceptable, but if one falls off you've gone too loud. 4] When the eggs begin to smell bad their crank resolving power has been fully consumed and must be replaced with fresh ones. 5] Its OK to draw or write on the eggs to ensure polarity. WARNING! Do not eat the eggs no matter how hungry; for it is likely that the same thing that made you hungry enough to eat old eggs will make you crank the amp up, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Since they are going to be in a colllege set up, I would fuse them. Buy enough of the inline fuse holders and put one each in the + (Red) lead going to the speaker. These are easy enough to put in the speaker wire. I'd start with a 1 amp fast blow fuse. You can get both items at a Radio Shack or at Parts Express. You'll be glad you did the first time a fuse blows and saves your speaker!!!! Be sure and buy extra fuses for replacements.[] Dude, how tough was it to get all 1975's? That's an amazing collection.... Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickcr42 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 May be of some help http://home.comcast.net/~walt-jung/wsb/PDFs/Speaker_Saver.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 bismarck - Lest you have a false sense of protection, I believe your sales staff needs to brush up on their product "expertise." The "protection" mode of your Yamaha will only shut it off in the event of a short circuit in the speaker wires, such as may happen if the wires are touching at the binding posts, per their manual. I believe it will let you fry your speakers to your heart's content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Bismarck, The smartest thing you can do is put an in-line fuse on each speaker. lstari gave some good advice about the Radio Shack ones. They are inexpensive and simple to install. Good Luck, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 bismarck - Lest you have a false sense of protection, I believe your sales staff needs to brush up on their product "expertise." The "protection" mode of your Yamaha will only shut it off in the event of a short circuit in the speaker wires, such as may happen if the wires are touching at the binding posts, per their manual. I believe it will let you fry your speakers to your heart's content. The protection circuity detects the presence of DC across the amplifier outputs (which occurs if you have a short). Since the speakers can handle more power than the amp can dish out, the amp will run into clipping before the speakers (which is a bad thing and is what he experienced). Depending on how sensitive the protection circuitry is, it will turn itself off because a clipping amp sends DC down the line. Hopefully this occurs before the tweeters melt [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 All these circuitry/fuse approaches are so unnatural - the eggs rule! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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