Heideana Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I'm a newbie Heritage owner. thanks to everyone's steers! I'm curious about the differences between the Cornwall models. Can anyone comment on how the three Cornwall models sound different from each other? Thanks for any thoughts...Heideana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I don't know about C1, C2, or C3, but I do know you got nice speakers, new, and no one else has used them, or abused them.......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom3 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 The Cornwall I versus II discussion has been the subject of several threads, the Search functions hould find it. I have CW IIs and I like them better than the Is. I'm not sure if anyone has made a side-by-side comparison of the II and III yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 The Cornwall I versus II discussion has been the subject of several threads, the Search functions hould find it. I have CW IIs and I like them better than the Is. I'm not sure if anyone has made a side-by-side comparison of the II and III yet. There was talk of doing that in Hope but not sure if it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heideana Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Thanks all...sounds like I'll have to wait for a CW II vs. III report. In the meantime, I think Thanks also Oldbuckster for the compliment. I'm really happy with the CW III's and feel like my search for the ultimate speaker is over (at least for now)...curiously, the CW III's seem to disappear into the background and I don't even really think of them as being there, unlike the RF-7's which felt (and looked) a bit more in my face or my memory of early 70's La Scala's. The sound is really refined and warm...must be the bottom end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Thanks all...sounds like I'll have to wait for a CW II vs. III report. In the meantime, I think Thanks also Oldbuckster for the compliment. I'm really happy with the CW III's and feel like my search for the ultimate speaker is over (at least for now)...curiously, the CW III's seem to disappear into the background and I don't even really think of them as being there, unlike the RF-7's which felt (and looked) a bit more in my face or my memory of early 70's La Scala's. The sound is really refined and warm...must be the bottom end. Are you glad you bought new instead of used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Thanks for your purchase and review of the new CWIII. I wish more comparison listening could have been done at this year's gathering. I've not read hardly any reports of Klipsch speaker comparisons. Shame. Or maybe I just missed the threads, if anyone could point me in the right direction.... Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Congrats on your CWIII's. I have heard them on a couple of occasions in Hope and they do sound fabulous. Larry Clare is among the few persons who, I think, has done some comparative listening between the CWIII and some of the earlier models. My take on what I heard him say about it would not cause any concern, whatsoever, that you might be missing out on something from the earlier iterations. I believe he was quite favorably impressed and noted that the CWIII production model sounds considerably better than the prototype we'd heard last year in Hope. Hopefully Larry will see this thread and chime in. One more thought, what you mentioned about the CWIII's disappearing.... that is about as wonderful a compliment as can be made about a speaker, IMO. Heritage speakers will do that and that's why they are my all time favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heideana Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 It is really kewl how they disappear into the background....[H] Oldbuckster, other then wondering if their third iteration is really an improvement or not, I'm really happy that I bought new instead of old. Fresh components that I can burn in myself with, hopefully, a refinement in design is a joy to listen to...[8-|] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted July 1, 2006 Moderators Share Posted July 1, 2006 Heideana, Dtel and I purchased a pair of Forte II's from a gentlemen in Florida about six months ago. When we arrived to pick the Forte's up we asked if he would audition the Forte II's for us, even though we already had a pair at home. Then we asked if he would audition his Cornwall II's for us. He agreed to our request. In all fairness to this evaluation I must tell you that he had the Cornwall's on the floor under a built in "entertainment center". The Cornwalls were enclosed by cabinet doors, which were covered with cloth! He also played the Corwalls at a very low level. That being said, the highs, mids and lows all sounded "muffled", what a surprise! However, after getting on my knees and giving the speakers a good listen, the bass sounded "hollow" and the mids and highs seemed to "run together". Of course, the placement of the speakers did have a huge impact on the sound. This is just my opinion. That being said, we were not impressed. Jump forward to the Pilgramage in Hope. Dtel and I have been extremely satisfied with our Forte collection. However, we also had been "shopping" for a pair of Klipschorns, even though we had never heard a pair! (Before I go any further, we would still like to own a pair of Klipschorns). We had the priviledge of auditioning the new Heresy, a pair of Klipschorns, and a new pair of Cornwall III's, one right after the other. We did not listen to the same recording on each pair of speakers, which IMO could have some influence on this review. The Heresy's were the biggest surprise. The sound from a "relatively" small pair of speakers was beautiful. The sound doesn't fill a room like the larger Heritage speakers, but the Heresy's are a "work of art" for your ears. We will purchase a pair of Heresy's for dtel's workshop in the future. The Klipschorns were of course, clear and concise. I was not as impressed with the Khorns as I thought I would be. Again, I think the recording played a huge impact on this opinion. My anticipation of the "blessed" listening event could have influenced my opinions on the Khorns as well. The Cornwall III's had a tight bass, and the highs and mids were undeniably clear and distinct. Dtel and I did not have a chance to discuss our observations prior to the Saturday night together at the farm house. As you may have heard dtel won a pair of Cornwall III's on Saturday night. During our recovery from the shock of winning such a wonderful prize we have discussed our audition of the Cornwall III's and Khorns many times. The end result of that audition is always the same. Yes, we do want to own a pair of Klipschorns. However, in our opinion the Cornwall III's outperformed the Khorns in the audition. Now, before any of you jump up and down and start thinking I am being a total idiot...We are not sure that we actually had a "fair" audition of the Khorns and we were genuinely impressed the clarity of the Khorns. Conclusion, if we were in the market for a quality pair of new speakers for our overall listening enjoyment (jazz, rock, oldies, etc) we would have to purchase the Cornwall III's. Something else I would like to mention, we also heard the new LaScalas and they were truly awesome. The one thing these speakers had in common was the ability to "disappear". All of the above mentioned speakers are large by today's standards. However, they did not appear to intrude on the space we were occupying. All of the speakers were beautifully designed. They looked more like fine furniture than speakers. The Khorns melted away into the corners, the LaScalas looked more like end tables than speakers and the Cornwalls at only 15 inches deep did not stand out in the room. The Heresy's actually looked like they had been designed for small rooms. I was impressed just as much by the "disappearing act" as I was by the way the clear sound filled the room. I think your money was well spent and you will enjoy your Cornwall III's for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 I find your results interesting...I too preferred the Cornwall III's in that listening room. The KHorns were definetly not sounding their best in that room, but it wasn't far from it in my unpopular opinion. [] The lacala was a huge improvement and I think when mated with a capable subwoofer system would be my favorite sounding of the bunch. And then the new heresy is fricken amazing...don't even need to do a side by side with I's and II's to know just how much they've improved. It was essentially a cross between a lascala and a cornwall - just smaller. It would definetly make a great timbre matched surround speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted July 2, 2006 Moderators Share Posted July 2, 2006 DrWho you just gave me an idea, didn't they say the New Heresy has the same horns,mid and high as the Cornwall lll. If so Cornwall lll and Heresy is a perfect match . I was thinking about HT, but i don't have room for a cornwall lll as a center channel. Plus it would be better to stay all Forte ll, cheaper and a perfect match. And just use the Cornwall lll's for 2 channel. I did really like the sound of those Heresy's though, it was hard to believe that large sound came out of such a small box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Sounds like someone has 'the bug'...and in your case I don't think hiding the wallet with your wife is going to help [] Are the new C3/H3's magnetically shielded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chops Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I wonder if they purposely set the CW III's up in a better room than the Khorns to try and boost sales for the CWs. We all know the CWs never had as good a track record as the rest when it comes to overall sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I wonder if they purposely set the CW III's up in a better room than the Khorns to try and boost sales for the CWs. We all know the CWs never had as good a track record as the rest when it comes to overall sales............Huh ......????? your kiddin, right ...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chops Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Huh ......????? your kiddin, right ...???? No. Why else did Klipsch discontinue the Cornwalls back in the early 90's? Lack of sales? That's what I remember hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 lack of ... Heritage sales.....overall anyways, the Cornwall probably has been the most produced speaker in the Klipsch lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chops Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 lack of ... Heritage sales.....overall anyways, the Cornwall probably has been the most produced speaker in the Klipsch lineup Totally unrelated to this thread, but I just sent you a PM. Back on topic, I thought that's what I heard about why they stopped making the CWs to begin with. I didn't say I knew for sure. At any rate, if not, I stand corrected and I'm definately glad they brought them back into production. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 sales were falling ... 'cause "thin ...was in" overall, tho ... gotta be the most popular Klipsch speaker ever produced not counting the Best Buy crap .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted July 2, 2006 Moderators Share Posted July 2, 2006 I wonder if they purposely set the CW III's up in a better room than the Khorns to try and boost sales for the CWs. We all know the CWs never had as good a track record as the rest when it comes to overall sales. All of the speakers were auditioned in the same room, i.e. the khorns were in the front corners of the room, the LaScalas were placed out from the front wall, the Cornwalls were out a little from the LaScalas, and the Heresey's were just in front and to the right of the rest. The speakers were all played through the same equipment, in the same room. The Cornwall III's in my opinion just sounded better than the khorns and I do not think I am alone in that opinion. The sales had tripled prior to our Pilgramage to Hope. Mark Kaufmann with Klipsch stated, "Our actual sales to date of the Cornwall III's have more than tripled our projected sales." This was stated during our "listening room" auditions. I am not familiar with past sales for Cornwalls so I can not comment on that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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