joessportster Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 well the table thread worked out very well so ill try this i am looking for a lomc cartridge in good used condition anyone have a spare laying around they would sell ????????? my email address is joespride02@yahoo.com open to suggestions it will be mounted to an oracle table with a graham 1.5 arm Thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Joe, I have a Spectral "MCR-Signature II" that I'd almost forgotten about. I think I set it aside because its output was too low for my equipment. And, that's the potential problem -- a rated output of only 0.2 millivolts! This would require a PHONO-stage gain of at least 60 db, and preferably 65-74 db, on top of the customary 10-26 db linestage gain. This brings up the point that you'll need to get the appropriate phono gain to go with a given LOMC cart. If the phono gain is too low, you'll get noise, and often a weak, pale kind of sound. Moreover, the Spectral's 0.2 mv is unusually low. My Transfiguration, for example, has 0.5 mv output, which is at least 7 or 8 db higher output than the Spectral. Even the Transfig needs 61 db to work well. It did not work well with my earlier CAT preamp's 46 db phono gain. So, you'll need to solve how to get the kind of gain you need as well as locate the right kind of cartridge. I don't recall what preamp you have, but Mark Deneen could solve this with the right Cream transformer option in one of his Blueberrys. Also, I have no idea what condition this old Spectral is in. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 larry gain is not an issue with the supratek pre i have, it is infinately adjustable, where would you stand price wise for the cart ??????? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I'll have to ask someone tomorrow. It looks like they've not been made since 1999 or so, but I'll let you know what I find out. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I think that i have a low output Grado Sonata around here someplace. If I recall it is is brand new. Ill look around and see if my memory is correct. Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 I think that i have a low output Grado Sonata around here someplace. If I recall it is is brand new. Ill look around and see if my memory is correct. Josh That's interesting. I didn't think Grado made any low output cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 grado does make lomc but the sonata isnt one of them i do appreciate the replys though Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Joe, I'm still working on getting a value on that Spectral. I asked Guy Landau in another thread ("Gary's toy"). Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 grado does make lomc but the sonata isnt one of them i do appreciate the replys though Joe The Sonata is available in both 4.8mv output as well a "Statement" version that is .5mv output. You are right in that is not a typical MC cart. Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 oops you are right i totally forgot about the statement version, is that the cart you have i would be very interested in giving that a whirl.........................i had a grado sonata high output a couple years ago and was mightily impressed with it (in my limited set up at the time), grado is a long time company that has many fine products, kinda like klipsch in that respect, anyway if you do find it and it is the low output version i would definately be interested Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Hi Larry, I don't really know the current value but it's a very sought after cartridge especially if it has low hours. I think that the retail was around $1500. I've seen lightly used vintage Supex 900 cartridges sell for way over what they were sold new so I can't really estimate the price. I have sold a lightly used, vintage, Koetsu Black cartridge for a little over 1/3 of the $1500 retail and I've seen similar cartridges sell for much more. My guess that a fair price would be anything between $500 to $750. Best regards, Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Joe, you have a PM. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 larry i did not receive the pm, please e-mail me at joespride02@yahoo.com thanks buddy Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Joe, sorry, I jumped the gun, it may be a while. Thanks for asking, stay tuned. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Joe, you now have your PM. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 larry that is a deal, if you could let me know how you wish to be paid, and or if needed an address to send money to, i can do pay-pal, check or money order what ever you prefer, i will respond to your email with the info needed with my address for shipping thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 OK, money order will be fine, I'll PM my address plus discuss a timing issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 say josh, did you find the sonata !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnich Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 It took me a while but yes I did find it! Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 price man, PRICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im going into witthdraws without my vinyl, i mean cd's are ok and all but i need my vinyl fix[], my email is joespride02@yahoo.com if you would rather e-mail me the particulars Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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