mariode Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Hey all. I currently have the following setup: Harmon Kardon AVR 347 Front: RB-51's Center: RC-52 Surround: RS-42's Sub 12 I am currently considering changing out my Sub 12 for the RW10d. Do you think this would be a good setup? My Family room/Kitchen is overall around 13' X 33' and the floor is all tile. I will be getting an area rug for the family room as soon as I can so right now acoustics is the main issue. Can anyone offer the pros and cons in changing out the subwoofer? Now, question 2: I have yet to mount the RS-42 surrounds. I am considering mounting them flush against the side walls around 9' up (the wife wants them out of the way). Should I go with the flush mounting or should I get a bracket to point them down towards the listening area. They will each be about 7'away from the center of the couch. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezff Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I was in a room at my local klipsch dealer and the room size was around 12x15 roughly. They had RS 42 or 52s on the back walls facing toward the listening area and they sounded great. they were around 7 feet up the wall, maybe eight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. RF62 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Seriously, stay with the Sub-12, unless you like to hear ping pong balls inside a subwoofer trying to come out. The Sub-12 has more "wham" than RW-10d. Adding the area rug may even add lower end to the Sub-12 and do nothing for the smaller RW-10d. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariode Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 Cool, I think I'll follow your advice and stick to the Sub-12... now, I do have the opportunity to upgrade to the RW12d for 80 bucks more... do you think THAT would be a good move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. RF62 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I auditioned both and if I were to choose I would stay with the Sub-12, the RW-12d also has ping pongy sound to it. Sub-12, your good!!! If it ain't broke, don't fix it.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I would upgrade to the RSW 10 or possibly try and find a used RSW 12 or 15 if you want a serious upgrade. If you go the latter route, I suggest contacting Klipsch to make sure the Amp and Pre Amp is still going to be available if anything goes wrong. Then there is always the non-Klipsch route... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy4300 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I auditioned both and if I were to choose I would stay with the Sub-12, the RW-12d also has ping pongy sound to it. Sub-12, your good!!! If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I've got an RW-12d and hear no "ping pongy" sound. I've never heard a sub-12, but am very pleased with my RW-12d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariode Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 Tucson eh? My wife is from there and I'm orignally from Douglas. Also have most of my family in Tucson. Navy has had us out in San Diego for quite some time now. I think I'm going to pull the trigger and upgrade to the RW-12d, I like the presets that it offers and it's only 80 bucks more for me. Thanks for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. RF62 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 O.K. don't listen to me. Sub-12 kicks butt over the RW-12d! Ping Pong "type" sound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariode Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 I just don't understand that "ping pong" sound you speak of. I'm just going to have to get my butt over somewhere and audition both subs. My concern is that the SUB-12 might be too "boomy" and the RW-12d is a bit tighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. RF62 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Sorry if "ping pong" is trowing you off, I mean port noise. When I auditioned them (RW-12d and RW-10d) they both had issues with port noise, chuffing as you will. I heard it, didn't like it. Didn't hear it with the Sub-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariode Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 Ah! NOW I see the light! I'll just make sure to try it on the different EQ settings when I audition the sub. Anyone else want to chime in with any thoughts/opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkdud35 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I tested out both the Sub-12 and the RW-10d. I did notice some port noise on the RW10d but nothing like that on the Sub-12. I thought it was just the demo room I was in being poorly designed. Granted these were tested in 2 different stores so a true side by side did not happen. I did however hear the port noise mentioned earlier and we weren't pushing the 10 all that hard. On the sub-12 we did crank up the volume a bit and it performed nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy4300 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I just cranked mine up. No Noise. Mine is located in a pushout corner with thick carpeting between the left front and the center. No Noise from the Port. It sounds Great to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezff Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I thought I would chime in. I just recently purchase a RW10d and it sounds great even on the low end. No ping pong sound or any weird sound coming from my sub. great punch. if i had the funds, I would get the RW12d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest srobak Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I have a Sub12 which I have mixed into a Reference environment consisting of RF35s, RC62s and RS42s, and I think it is a perfect fit... but - those are my ears. I have had my Sub12 for over a year now, and it has been flawless, and delivers nothing short of "fist of god" caliber pounding... very happy with it. No huffing, chuffing, pingy pongy or paintball gun sounds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nezff Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 why dont you put those RS 42s on the back walls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariode Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 That is one gorgeous system srobak! I really wish the wife would allow me to have floorstanders. Instead I'm stuck with RB-51's! I might look for some floorstanding speaker covers though to help my cause. nezff, I can't place my RS-42's in the back wall because it's in the kitchen. My floor plan is open so the family room extends into this vacant space in front of the fireplace (where my pool table is going) and then the kitchen. It's about 30-45 feet long (I suck at gauging distances!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest srobak Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 They are on the back walls. At the time of the picture I did not have a panoramic camera, and I was also breaking them in. Mariode> Nothing wrong with the bookshelf models. They sound pretty darn good in fact. Just gotta mate them with the right sub and yo uwill be good to go I recommend the 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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