www.records Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I know this is the Klipsch forum, but I bought a cousin last night. It is still sitting in the back of my Grand Cherokee, awaiting some additional help in getting it into the house. This thing is large and heavy. Is anyone here familiar with EV that can tell me about what I bought? I haven't opened it up yet to see exactly what drivers and tweeter are in it, nor have I been able to hook it up for a listen. On the back of the cab it is stencil painted Georgian Serial No. 321. I take it this is an early version of the Georgian? I have been googling and can't come up with a whole lot of info. Is there an EV forum? Any info and feedback appreciated. I thought my Altec 620 cabs were big, but this EV makes them seem small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Pictures please!! How much did you give?? Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.records Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 Roger, I currently don't have a digital camera, will talk to my daughter about useing hers in a day or so. Plus, right now the Georgian is still in the back of my Jeep. Pics wouldn't show much at this point. As far as price, lets just say I think I got a good deal. Are you familiar with the Georgian? Comments or info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Steve, Georgians and the patricians both to an extent. Another member here as well; EVguy. Post some pics when you get the chance. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 The Georgian was manufactured by EV under license from Klipsch in the '50s. The woofer was a 15WK, the "K" denoting a 3.2 ohm voice coil. The throat in the bass horn was 78 sq. in. versus 39 sq. in. on later Khorns. The tweeter was a T-35. I'm not sure about the mid or the crossover but I have some info on the Georgian horn at home that would ID these parts. Check the EV website under obsolete products, they may have all you need to know there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Guy Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Is the one you bought similar to this set listed on Ebay? Ebay Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.records Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 The cab on mine looks like the 3rd pic on the top row of pics on this site. http://homepage.mac.com/ikecarumba/PhotoAlbum13.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twistedcrankcammer Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 This is a real Georgian, it is a 4 way system, and it has all of the orriginal drivers. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brac Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 then what is this? http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-KLIPSCH-FOLDED-CORNER-HORN-SPEAKER-SYSTEM_W0QQitemZ290239411498QQihZ019QQcategoryZ32861QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 This is a real Georgian, it is a 4 way system, and it has all of the orriginal drivers. Roger Sorry, dude, this is no more a Georgian than it is a Corvette! The EV Georgian was a 3 way, there was no opening in the front face, there was no tailboard on the Georgian. I'm looking at a complete set of EV Georgian plans drawn on 5-28-53 by J. Locke of EV Corporation. Some of the components look the same but the bass horn enclosure is incorrect. Someone may have tried to scale down a Patrician for a 15" driver and use the Patrician components. Also a friend has a pair of real Georgian bass horns, and they agree with the plans that I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I am looking at EV catalog no.122,,,,,It is a 105 & 106 Kit used to make Georgian,,,A complete 4 way unit,,, It is authentic The real early ones had a door in front....later they did away with this offering the 106 bass bin as a complete assembly without front door access. The mod 107 outer decorative cabinet is missing on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I am looking at EV catalog no.122,,,,,It is a 105 & 106 Kit used to make Georgian,,,A complete 4 way unit,,, It is authentic The real early ones had a door in front....later they did away with this offering the 106 bass bin as a complete assembly without front door access. The mod 107 outer decorative cabinet is missing on this one. What's the date on EV cat. #122? My info says the basshorn part # is 8561, the cabinet shell is part # 896-781 thru 896-784, depending on the finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Sorry Don, Your the one driving a Corvette, not my style!! That is an orriginal Georgian 4 way system without the front access board, the exterior decorative cabinet, and the rear bracket for the big horn, as well as some other minoe pieces. I was addressing the orriginal question of what drivers should be in the cabinet. Brac asked "then what is this?" Brac, if you read the description on the other speaker, it was fabbed in some shop somewhere. The other speaker is a 3 way, which is wrong, it has an Altec Lansing horn, which is wrong as Electro Voice unlike Klipsch, was a driver manufacturer in those days, and Georgians did not look like a Klipschorn inexterior treatments at all. These and the ones that EV Guy own, were made to look like Klipschorns, although not a bad thing in my opinion. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Your the one driving a Corvette, not my style!! That is an orriginal Georgian 4 way system without the front access board, the exterior decorative cabinet, and the rear bracket for the big horn, as well as some other minoe pieces. The original Georgian horn was made by EV under license from PWK. The EV prints that I have are dated 1953. It was a 3 way. Subsequent to 1953 PWK pulled the license from EV. Around 1955, Roy Carlson of EV designed the Patrtician, a 4 way system using an 18" bass driver.: http://archives.telex.com/archives/EV/Speakers/DIY%20Manuals/Patrician%20IV%20Part%201.pdf I'm fairly familiar with the EV Georgian (PWK-licensed design) and early Patrician IV enclosures and I'm not familiar with any 15" version of the Patrician enclosure called a Georgian, but I'm always up for learning something new. In any event, if there was a 15" version of the Patrician type design it would have been done after the original, PWK-licensed Georgian in 1953. Please post any info on this with dates if you can. If what you have is a real EV product it would be quite rare and the Japanese audiophiles would give a lot of money for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Don, Which patrician model are you speaking about as there were 4 different models. This is not a patrician, it is a Georgian. It is not the only Georgian of this configguration that I have seen either. I have seen 3 way Georgians as well as 4 way Georgians, but every three way I have ever seen does not have a T-35 driver. They still had the same midrange as this one, with the same horn in the center of this ones mid range. This is a very early 50s Georgian as denoted by this ones early, narrow T-35, and I have seen this one multiple times and it has the early 50s Alnico EV15W-K, not the later Ferite version. All Patricians that I am aware of use the much larger and expensive T-350, not the T-35, and depending on the maodel, have the EV 18W-k, or the EV 30W. I have also seen two different styles of decorative housings for just the Georgian, as well as they sold complete speaker and crosover settups for all of these hi end models, with instructions to build your own cabinet. You can believe what you will, but that still wont make you correct... Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Which patrician model are you speaking about as there were 4 different models. The link that I provided clearly states "Patrician IV". Did you read it? I have also seen two different styles of decorative housings for just the Georgian, as well as they sold complete speaker and crosover settups for all of these hi end models, with instructions to build your own cabinet. It looks like a DIY with EV components. You can believe what you will, but that still wont make you correct... I choose to believe the info published by EV that I have in my possession, and on their website. Please reference any other info from EV about the Georgian horn and post it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Don & Rog,,,, We are talking about two folded horns by EV licenced by Klipsch... One for a 15" driver/horn and one for18" horn/driver. The Georgian was produced as a 3 way and a 4 wayWhats interesting was the Georgian used a 848 coaxial mid bass&treble assembly plus the T35 tweet. The Patrician IV used two 828 drivers with A8419 Lf phenolic horn plus T25 driver and 6hd horn and 18 woofs... Yes there were 4 versions of the Patricions.... But were talking about the GEORGIANS,,, 3 way and 4 way T35 tweet , 848 coax bass/treble unit , and 15WK woofer.You can see the 848 unit in the pics plus the T35 tweeter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 In the 122 Ev catalog you could buy the Khorn bass cabinet in black for $90. dollers Shipping weight 88 lbs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Thanks for the info, Maron. Do you have any dates on these Georgian cabinets? The EV info that I have is for an exact Khorn bass unit, dated 1953. I have no other info from EV on the 4-way Georgians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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