jnorv Posted January 25, 2002 Share Posted January 25, 2002 I am geting ready to rewire my La Scala's withg Cat 5. What is the recommended configuration of the wire bundles? I have 100 feet of 4 pair, 24 Ga, cat 5, FEP insulated, PVC jacketed wire. Thanks, Jim Norvell This message has been edited by jnorv on 01-25-2002 at 03:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 25, 2002 Share Posted January 25, 2002 I twisted 3 pairs of 4-pair and then braided the 3 twisted pairs into a single cable. That means each front La Scala got a cable made from six 4-pair "runs". The solids became + and the dashes became -. After all of that work I couldn't hear ANY difference AT ALL! My La Scalas are '81 models with Type AA networks. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Warren Posted January 25, 2002 Share Posted January 25, 2002 John You could not hear a difference because you are not an audiophile. Only audiophiles can hear how the soundstage becomes "larger", the highs become "more airy" and the mids have less "honk", Also, the bass is "tighter" and even lower. Now go get a cup of Latte and listen again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornwalled Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 Hey John Warren, How about a little less attitude? Nothing like insulting someone else to make yourself feel better, eh? How insecure are you pal? Maybe he can't hear the difference between two types of wire because cabling doesn't mean much of anything in the end. Jon ------------------ markvi82@hotmail.com 1981 Cornwall I's Yamaha DSP-A1000 integrated amp Acoustic Research AR3A's for Pro-Logic rears (Music only setup) Marantz CD Player Yamaha Turntable with Stanton EE Cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 I can hear it.I must be an audiopile. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 Cornwalled---I think that sound you just heard was a joke going over your head. Warren wasn't insulting Albright, he's making fun of a certain type of audiophile and certainly not Albright. He's in agreement with Albright. And what's with this insecure crap, everytime somebody acts secure some jasper is bound to say he's acting secure because he really isn't. So how does somebody who is secure act, insecurely? Evidently the secure can't act securely. that would mean they're not....Joeseph Heller, can you hear me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 "Just because I'm paranoid, ...." Thanks, John, I needed that! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 I can buy teflon wire out of engineering stock at work for $0.06 a foot. I just twist a pair in a drill. Lampcord works fine for the low end. I either bi-amp or bi-wire. http://www.apexjr.com/wire.html Reasonable prices on teflon wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 For external, I tried the CAT5 approach and thought it sounded ok as it bettered a homebrew Radio Shack 18awg solid core/Magnet wire solution I had. Then both were easily eclipsed by a pair of Belden 89259 twisted with shielding. And all the above did better than some Transparent Network cable via the low watt 2A3 where the Transparent sounded slower and more thick. Even 75 cents of RS Solid core bettered this expensive cable (although the Transparent did well with solid state and ProAcs). I now have various incarnations of Belden 89259 in IC and speaker wire. And between preamp and amp am running Vampire continuous Cast Copper Wire in a twisted pair. This is a very open and detailed combination while still sounding very smooth. To hell with Audiophile labels. I can only report what I have found works with my current setup of Cornwalls 2A3/EL-84/EL-34 amps, one of which is single-ended, the other two being Williamson and Ultralinear respectively. As for the internal rewire, I have heard of people getting good results with Kimber solid core in their speakers. I am not sure you need to inact the CAT5 twisted approach within the speaker. Many are also going with the super thin Magnet wire for the mid and tweeter. Others frown. Let your ears decide and do what floats your boat. Listening by numbers is fun on paper. kh Phono Linn LP-12 Vahalla / Linn Basic Plus / Sumiko Blue Point CD Player Rega Planet Preamp Cary Audio SLP-70 w/Phono Modified Amplifier Welborne Labs 2A3 Moondog Monoblocks Cable DIYCable Superlative / Twisted Cross Connect Speaker 1977 Klipsch Cornwall I w/Alnico & Type B Crossover system one online / alternate components / Asylum Listing f>s> This message has been edited by mobile homeless on 01-27-2002 at 02:42 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 In all fairness, the cat-5 cable to the KLF-C7 did make a small difference. I still have trouble describing that difference, sort of smoother and more detailed. I had the wife and both kids helping. The boys didn't mind, Cathy thought I was "touched". i had trouble typing for a couple of days afterward. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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