lovedrummin Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 I'm interested in getting your definitions of imaging and soundstage. I enjoy participating in the site discussions & fear I may have used these terms interchangeably. I'd hate to give someone misinformation by using the wrong terminology to express myself. Do the definitions of these terms hold the same meaning in regard to home theater as well as stereo (music)? Thanks gang - looking forward to the education. ------------------ Lew Not Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll - & Not Too Old To Learn This message has been edited by lovedrummin on 01-26-2002 at 12:25 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 love, being really simplistic here, but i think imaging relates to the horizontal sound plane & SS relates to the depth in sound (in math i think that's the z axis). ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted January 26, 2002 Share Posted January 26, 2002 Here's some info I found, might be helpful. The best imaging is achieved in rooms that are symmetrical. Most of us don't have such rooms, so we encounter different frequency responses at your seating area, due to the direct and reflected sound paths from each speaker. This often causes the image to shift slightly to the left or right at different frequencies resulting in what's called poor imaging. Symmetry applies not only to the room shape (which will affect low frequency imaging) but also to the equipment in the room (which will affect mid-range imaging). Some individuals use acoustical treatments & others choose equalizers to combat a rooms negative affects on imaging. The ability to reproduce three dimensional sound is called soundstaging. An accurately reproduced soundstage conveys the acoustical and spatial cues that allow you to locate performers and instruments in three dimensional space as you do during a live performance. To achieve accurate soundstaging, symmetrical cue encoded in the left and right channel (s) information must be preserved in amplification, and most critically in loudspeaker reproduction. For loudspeakers to reserve symmetry, each driver must "see" the same resistance, the same capacitance, the same inductance as the other, over its entire frequency range. When there is evenness between a pair of components the soundstage deteriorates and the sound is perceived as coming from the loudspeaker cabinets. ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 01-26-2002 at 03:10 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovedrummin Posted January 26, 2002 Author Share Posted January 26, 2002 Thanks for the input folks. I think I was on the right track as far as what I perceived to be imaging & soundstage. It also would appear that both can be rather subjective depending upon the listener & the environment. Thanks again. ------------------ Lew Not Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 I agree with mdeneeen. That second paragraph doesn't make much sense. If this was the case, then single full-range drivers would be the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 As I said, some of the info I had found, and that para was one that was in my archives. It was from some speaker manufacturers Q&A page. Here's what I think it should have conveyed; a good soundstage is dependent on properly recorded media, rather than multi-tracked, multi-channel or artificial panning added to the media. An accurate demonstration of a speaker's soundstaging ability is truly revealed when listening to a straight forward recording of live music. Then our ears should be able to respond and recognize the spatially correct "cues" that existed during the live performance. But since this was a manufacturers site who was touting their brands merits, it was (I think) written from a Design Approach in an attempt to convince readers that their product was superior because they were designed and produced with all elements of "superior soundstaging" hand crafted in their loudspeakers. Also recall they had links to topics on stereo, surround and alternative surround(?) speaker placement. If you're truly interested in their perspective on soundstaging, I will try and find that site and post a link to that page? Wes ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted January 27, 2002 Share Posted January 27, 2002 Now this wouldn't be a manufacturer who manufacters one driver full range horn cabinet type loudspeakers? I'm just curious, that paragraph seems to root for that approach. THANX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted January 28, 2002 Share Posted January 28, 2002 Found the link...the manufacturer is NSM Audio. I'm not familar w/them, but they call their design & crossovers acoustic-first order, w/2-way driver configuration for woofers. Emphasizing match pair manufacturing. That's what the verbage for soundstaging was about. Here's the link to main page: http://www.nsmaudio.com/index.html A link to 1993 Stereo Review Article (fwiw) http://www.nsmaudio.com/reviews/m25/sterev.html I would imagine they would have a big WAF, based on their cutesy little size. Wes ------------------ "KLIPSCH IS MUSIC"f> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 01-28-2002 at 11:49 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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