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---------------- On 3/15/2004 10:47:46 AM DirtRider wrote: Would you opt for this 7200 at the big discount or get my initial plan of the yamaha rx-v1400? . . . What would the HK acutally buy me? ---------------- 7200. What would it buy you? Much better, warmer sound with Klipschs. Especially since you own three or thirty-five series Reference. My Yamaha RXV-1300 was harsh at higher volumes with reference three/35 series so I moved it upstairs with non-Klipsch speakers. I recently sold my Harmon Kardon AVR 525 and bought a 7200, the lowered price was too tempting. The RXV-1400 does have more "features." Depends on where your preference lies. Some Yamaha/Klipsch owners really like the match up and maybe the newer 1400 would not be as harsh or overly bright as my 1300. If you are leaning towards the Yamaha at all, make sure you demo that model somewhere with thirty-five reference series (if you can) to see how you like the sound. I think Yamaha makes some fine receivers otherwise I would not have kept my 1300. Sound-wise, however, it is hard to beat the Harman Kardon/Klipsch match up (for receivers that is). ------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP, Harmon Kardon AVR 7200, Denon DVD-2900, RB75(ordered), RC7(ordered), RF3II, RC3II, SVS PB2-ISD, SVS 20-39PCi Yamaha RX-V1300, Onkyo SKS-HT500, Axiom QS-8, HSU VTF-2

Looks most excellent. You'll like the speakers. I have run an RC35 and a pair of RS35 for over a year as part of my system, and I really like the sound. However, I am now addicted to DVD-Audio and SACD and just had to move my towers to my side surrounds (damn, the upgrade bug!) Another receiver worth considering is the Harmon Kardon AVR-7200. That model is the current H/K flagship, and its price has plummeted recently due to the impending introduction of the new H/K flagship receiver (set to now debut in April). From what I understand, the stock of 7200s is limited to what is left at the dealers, but the ones left are going at authorized dealers for the early $800s. I just sold my H/K AVR 525 and bought my 7200 about three weeks ago and have been very impressed. With respect to receivers, I prefer the H/K sound with Klipschs (with the Denon/Klipsch being a close second). The 7200 is a large receiver (20 inches deep and 60 pounds) so take that into consideration. For the money, you get the nice H/K sound at a nice price. Go to the H/K website and look for authorized online dealers if you are interested. The Denon and the Rotel would also make very fine choices with your Klipschs. Any one of the three would be a good idea. Carl. -------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP, Harmon Kardon AVR 7200, Denon DVD-2900, RB75s (ordered), RC7(ordered), RF3IIs, RC3II, SVS PB2-ISD, SVS 20-39PCi Yamaha RX-V1300, Onkyo SKS-HT500, Axiom QS-8, HSU VTF-2

I am going to order RB-75s from a local dealer tomorrow. The last time I demoed these speakers, I did not look at the bottoms. The Klipsch site says that RB-75s have "bottom panel threaded inserts (to bolt to a speaker stand)." 1. Does anyone know where these inserts are located on the bottom?(corners? what size threads?) 2. Does Klipsch recommend bolting these bookshelves to the stands for increased bass response? 3. Do RB-75s owners have any recommendations for stands, and if so, where did you pick them up? Thanks. Carl. ----------------------------------------- (projected) Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RB75s, RC7, RF3IIs,RC3II,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

For sale. Klipsch RC-35 and KLF-C7. The RC-35 is about six month old and in perfect condition. The KLF-C7 has one small nick/dent in the left front bottom corner, and two small tears in the grille. Both sound great. $290.00 for the RC-35, and $300.00 for the KLF-C7. I finally made the decision to upgrade to a seven series front, and these speakers do not fit in the plan. Buyer pays for shipping and/or insurance from Missouri. PM or e-mail me if interested. I can also forward photos, if helpful. ------------------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

PM or e-mail me. I recently went through this.

Yes. Both the 3803 and 3805 have fancier processors than the H/K 7200. That being said, I prefer the sound of the 7200 to the 3803 (and presumably 3805) with Klipschs. Warmer sound with the 7200, and it appeared to have more raw power (even though the 3803 was rated at 10 watts more per channel). I just upgraded from a H/K AVR 525 to a 7200, and I think this is one of the great buys of recent memory. There is a report that H/K is not shipping any more 7200s, so the stock may be limited to that at dealers. I highly recommend the 7200, especially at the current price. ------------------- Harmon Kardon AVR 525,Denon DVD-2900,Samsung TXN3245FP, RF3II,RC3II,RS35,RC35,KLF-C7,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

---------------- On 3/4/2004 3:34:57 PM Rdog wrote: Yeah I saw them on onecall for a rock bottom price of 820, which is unheard of and they are an authorized dealer. Just wondering. Thanks, I mainly listen to movies, so do you think I will notice a change. ---------------- Yes and No. Not as much of a "sound" quality difference with movies. That being said, extra headroom is usually a bigger factor with movies anyway. That way, when company comes over, and you really want to show off, you put in say, the lobby scene from Matrix I, and they will be completely blown away versus being really, really surprised. If you've ever listened to a certain scene from a movie really, really loud and thought "wish I had a little more -like a turbo or nitrous or something," then it will make a difference. If you've never thought that you needed extra headroom for a movie, then you might be fine with your 525. ----------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

In that price range, either the 25-31PC+ or the HSU VTF-3MkII. If $1000 is possible, the SVS PB2-ISD. ---------------- Carl. Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

I cannot speak to Bill's latest experience. We will probably find out later what happened. I just upgraded from a 525 to the 7200. In my opinion, the upgrade from an AVR 525 to an AVR 7200 is worth it. I expected just a power increase, but the pleasant surprise has been a much smoother and fuller sound with my front three that starts at mid volume and extends beyond reference. The sound of DVD-Audio and SACDs has also improved , but the most drastic improvement has been with CD sound. At this point, I think there may be few of these units still available. I read in another forum that H/K said that the 7200s are sold out. That means the stock is limited to what is left at dealers. Carl.

---------------- On 3/1/2004 9:41:12 PM raist679 wrote: I think I might pick one of these beast up. The question is where to put a 60lb receiver? ---------------- The weight of the receiver posed an interesting challenge. I shopped and shopped high-end racks but just could not find the one I wanted. I ended up buying a TV stand (Sanus) from BB that can also be used as a component rack. It has black shelves with brushed metal legs and poles. It looks fantastic and supports the receiver beautifully (7200 is on top). About $150. ----------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD

---------------- On 3/1/2004 9:06:32 PM Fish wrote: I also have a 7200 on the way,sorry to tell ya that one call just raised the price on the 7200 about 50 bucks. ---------------- You will be pleased with your 7200. BTW, soundcity.com (an authorized dealer) still has the same competitive price. They shipped quickly, and the unit arrived in great shape. ----------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD

I just recently bought an AVR 7200, and therefore, I am in the process of selling my AVR 525. I really like my 525, but the recent price drop forced my hand. Very, very clean and very powerful. The sound is typical Harman Kardon (laid back, smooth), but even improved over the 525. You are running seven series up front, and it would be a match made in heaven. I would not hesitate to pull the trigger on the 7200. ----------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD

PB2-ISD or PB2+. Depends on the size of your room and your listening volumes. --------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD

I vote for room treatments and amplification. When I first started with my RF3IIs, they were very harsh at high volumes run with a Yamaha receiver. Adding room treatments somewhat helped. However, the biggest difference was a warmer sounding amp. I demoed a Denon receiver, and the harshness improved dramatically. In the end, I ended up opting for a Harman Kardon receiver, and I recently upgraded H/K receivers (since my initial one). Now, I can play music at extremely-high volumes with no harshness whatsoever. Based on the Reference line's excellence in handling H/T, my suggestion is to try different amplification and add room treatments before discarding your Reference speakers. Under the right circumstances, they also excel at music, even at very high volumes. Dean also makes some excellent points about the crossovers. ------------------------ Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD

I also preferred the older black appearance of the AVR 525, and mine performed without a hitch. Good, clean power all the way to max, and great sounding with Klipsch speakers. If you listen to movies and music VERY, VERY, VERY LOUD, you may also want to consider the AVR 7200. The price of the 7200 recently plummeted at online authorized dealers with the upcoming introduction of H/K's new flagship receiver, and you get a monster receiver. Recently, it became too much of a temptation for me. Ultimately, it depends on your budget for your receiver. Damn that upgrade bug!! P.S. If you would be interested in a 6-8 month old AVR 525, let me know. --------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

I am another who found the Yamaha/Reference combination too bright at very, very high volumes. Some others, however, seem to enjoy the combination. A Denon will provide a much warmer sound for Klipsch speakers. I personally found the Harman Kardon sound to be even warmer than Denon, so that also may be a consideration for you. Ultimately, its up to your own ears. --------------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

---------------- On 2/24/2004 10:57:39 PM companion wrote: what kind of svs sub's do you have and how you like them? cjgeraci ---------------- The sub in the left corner is a SVS PB2-ISD, and the sub in the right corner is a SVS 20-39PCi. My subwoofers evolved over the years, and I ended up with SVS subs due to their seamless blend with Klipsch mains and their performance to cost ratio. For most people with small to moderate-sized rooms, the SVS 20-39PCi would be more than enough subwoofer to fit their music/HT needs. Tight, clean bass all the way down to 20 HZ. However, I have an odd-shaped room and was looking for more impact when playing music and listening to certain movies. Many people (including Tom and Ron at SVS) have called the PB2-ISD the greatest bang for the buck in subs because of what you get for about $1000 (including shipping). Not only tight and clean bass, but the ability to provide lots of clean slam consistently down to 16HZ without any dropoff. Not only does the sub handle all of the great bass demos at very high volume levels without breaking a sweat (U-571, LOTR, Fight Club, etc.), but this is also a very musical sub. I have pushed and pushed this sub with very high volumes, but I have yet to hear it strain. At times, the PB2-ISD more than meets my needs, and I run just that sub. The only caveat relates to its size. The PB2-ISD is large(18X25X28) and hefty (about 120 pounds). However, there is often no substitute for size when you are moving that kind of air. It may sound kind of silly, but I always recommend making a cardboard mockup of this sub to see if it fits into your decor and/or if it can be tolerated by your significant other because it is bigger in person than its looks in pics. That being said, I love this incredible sub. Carl. ------------------------------ Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

Pic of front right.

Very nice HT center. Quite the audio rack; we share the same great taste. The SVS PB2 series is awesome, but you have to calibrate one properly so it does not get away from you. I do not regret matching the three series with my two SVS subs. Enclosed are pics of the front left of my rig. -------------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900,RF3II,RC3II,RS35,KLF-C7,RC35,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD

I would also use the RS3IIs as the side surrounds instead of in back. Not only are there directional issues, but if you decide to go DVD-Audio/SACD at some point, you would want to use your RS3IIs in 5.1. -------------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP, Harmon Kardon AVR 7200, Denon DVD-2900, RF3II, RC3II, RS35, RC35, KLF-C7, SVS 20-39PCi, SVS PB2-ISD

From what I recall, there was no specific time frame identified for the problem RC-35s that some people purchased. I was lucky enough to get a good one. I do recall that Whadyasay initially had one (as well as some others) so maybe you will get some specific responses. In the absence of any dates, I would open up the box and fire it up. From what people have said, it will be readily apparent whether or not you have a problem. Likely, if you hear distorted sound, you have a bad one. Good luck. -------------------- Samsung TXN3245FP,Harmon Kardon AVR 7200,Denon DVD-2900, RF3II,RC3II,RS35,RC35,KLF-C7,SVS 20-39PCi,SVS PB2-ISD Yamaha RX-V1300,Onkyo SKS-HT500,Axiom QS-8,HSU VTF-2

Many of you may be aware that the price of Harman Kardon's AVR 7200 continues to plummet at authorized dealers with the impending introduction of H/K's new flagship receiver. I loved my H/K AVR 525, but I just could not resist. Upgraded my AVR 525 for a AVR 7200, and the results are spectacular. Much more power to spare, and an even sweeter H/K sound (smoother and fuller, even when set to all "small"). Those Klipsch fans looking for a new A/V receiver instead of separates: I highly recommend this piece. Just be aware, it is neither small nor light (60 plus pounds). ------------------------ Samsung TXN3245FP, Harmon Kardon AVR 7200, Denon DVD-2900, RF3II, RC3II, RS35, RC35, KLF-C7, SVS 20-39PCi, SVS PB2-ISD

Usually, the connections are five analog connections for the speakers and one analog connection for the subwoofer(s). -------------- Downstairs Samsung TXN3245FP Harmon Kardon AVR 525 Denon DVD-2900 Mains: Klipsch RF3II Center: Klipsch RC3II Surrounds: Klipsch RS35 Left Rear: Klipsch KLF-C7 Right Rear: Klipsch RC35 SVS 20-39PCi SVS PB2-ISD Upstairs Yamaha RX-V1300 Mains, Center: Onkyo SKS-HT500 Surrounds: Axiom QS-8 HSU VTF-2

With any one of those three subs, I do not think you should have a problem placing something on top. For a period of time, I placed a potted plant on top of my VTF-2, and the plant did not seem to be harmed (or mind). However, I dare not try that anymore with my SVS PB2-ISD. I have already had a lamp with a sizable and stable footprint vibrate off to the ground when I failed to remove it during very, very loud listening. ----------------- Downstairs Samsung TXN3245FP Harmon Kardon AVR 525 Denon DVD-2900 Mains: Klipsch RF3II Center: Klipsch RC3II Surrounds: Klipsch RS35 Left Rear: Klipsch KLF-C7 Right Rear: Klipsch RC35 SVS 20-39PCi SVS PB2-ISD Upstairs Yamaha RX-V1300 Mains, Center: Onkyo SKS-HT500 Surrounds: Axiom QS-8 HSU VTF-2

I agree that there should not be a problem matching since this is the rear we are talking about. I went a similar route that you are contemplating (old and new), and I have had no problems. With 6.1/7.1 movies or even with 5.1 SACD or DVD-Audio, the difference between the older and newer series is not really noticeable between the front and the rear. There would likely be somewhat of an issue, however, if we were talking about your front three. P.S. I do not think Gary was necessarily implying or advocating going with towers in the rears. A number of people advocate bookshelf speakers instead of surrounds for SACD or DVD-Audio because of the way the respective speakers present. In my opinion, I think it depends on the quality of the rear surrounds. I also had space/logistics constraints, and either rear towers or bookshelfs was not a viable option. My RS35s perform very well with SACD and DVD-Audio, and these surrounds should also make a good choice for you. ------------------------ Downstairs Samsung TXN3245FP Harmon Kardon AVR 525 Denon DVD-2900 Mains: Klipsch RF3II Center: Klipsch RC3II Surrounds: Klipsch RS35 Left Rear: Klipsch KLF-C7 Right Rear: Klipsch RC35 SVS 20-39PCi SVS PB2-ISD Upstairs Yamaha RX-V1300 Mains, Center: Onkyo SKS-HT500 Surrounds: Axiom QS-8 HSU VTF-2