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It does sound like you are on the right track. ph4525s can sound good but yes you need to eq them. I run mine with a pair of radian 850s and an active crossover. I actually think that more of my good sound with the 4525s is probably due to the quality of the drivers instead of the horns. But you probably could not use 850s because you need to cross them over lower on the bottom end than I do (unless you used an extreme slope). I get away with crossing them over higher because my mains are A7s with k horn bass bins used as subs. Have fun. Keep tweaking!!! Carl.

I'm glad you're happy with your set-up, but: "Mine are cut off at 200 hz on the lower end in an active system, and my Klipschorn bass bins handle 200 hz to the bottom end. The 511s have been replaced with better horns and better drivers, and are relegated to other duties in the system. Eq also helps. " I was speaking of stock A-7s. You no longer have them; you have something else now. You are right, I guess that I have modded A-7s, augmented by Klipschorn bass bins. Glad to hear that your blistering critique of the speaker was only directed towards bone stock A-7s and not modded ones. Your comments seem to reflect prior criticisms of Klipsch modders in this forum, whenever different horns, drivers, or crossovers were used to replace OEM parts in a Klipsch speaker. I suppose that under your logic, most aftermarket modifications of speakers such as a Klipschorn and Cornwall where you add a different tweeter or change the crossover mean that you no longer technically have a "Klipsch" Klipschorn or Cornwall. Following that logic, I guess that I have only had two pair of "pure" Klipsch speakers over the years. That's fine by me. In the end, the sound is all that matters anyway - not labels. Carl. P.S. Having also owned LaScalas (and Belles), I also agree that LaScalas have better low-mid slam as opposed to A-7 cabinets. Still not a big fan of the K400 though...............

Just like game six of the World Series last year and the multiple eliminations last year. What a game. Largest deficit overcome in a series clinching game (six runs), and they scored four runs in the ninth against the Nationals' closer. Feel bad for the Nationals fans, but the Cards are again taking the whole never say quit thing to a new historic level. Wow. Carl.

Congrats on the great deal. I really enjoyed my pair of RB 75s. Too bad i had to swap mine to first get into vintage Heritage. You will likely enjoy them as much as i enjoyed mine. Carl.

Well you know, audio opinions are like a certain part of the human anatomy - - everyone has one. I agree with Tom, A7s properly set up do not sound "bad" in a home environment, they can actually sound pretty decent. I do admit, however, that A7s should not be run in a small room. Mine are cut off at 200 hz on the lower end in an active system, and my Klipschorn bass bins handle 200 hz to the bottom end. The 511s have been replaced with better horns and better drivers, and are relegated to other duties in the system. Eq also helps. A person's audio taste in speakers is subjective. For example, I owed a few Klipsch speakers over the years. Some have really been my cup of tea (Klipschorns, Belles, Fortes). Others, not so much..... (Cornwalls, RF7s, etc.). That's what makes this hobby so much fun. []YMMV. Carl.

Of course, given your cache of tube gear, you would say that, wouldn't you? [] Ahem, unlike my good friend Sheltie Dave, there are still some fans of the little chip amps left here in the midwest. I agree with Mike that the power supplies on the class D amps have a large effect on their sonic signatures. For a number of years, I have been using two little "chip" amps (Super T and Trends) on my horns in my main system, with upgraded power supplies (the KingRex PSU). The little amps provide great sound for my horns, but I am not asking them to do too much. I run active front and back, and the little guys are only being asked to run single drivers (Radian 850s up front and Altec 902s in the rear). One of these days I will have to try one of the Panasonic amps that started this thread. Carl.

Totally agree with you, Fish. I also picked up Chickenfoot III, the new 'foot album, and Sammy, Joe and Michael sound much better to me than this incarnation of VH (and that is coming from a fan that originally preferred Roth-VH to Sammy-VH). I'm guessing that part of it is the genuine enthusiasm that the 'foot members feel, and the better creative juices that are flowing. To me, the 'foot are having "fun," and I am not sure that is the case with VH. Sounds like the "new" Van Halen album is going to have a number of "old" songs from Van Halen's club days that were never formally released on an album "in the day." Critics have commented that "Tattoo" sounds almost identical to "Down in Flames" - a tune from VH's club days in the '70s. Do not really care for the song or the video. Hopefully, the upcoming album will be better. Carl.

Thanks Amy for your response and all the great work you do on the forum. I will see if I can find it still available at an authorized online retailer. Remind me, do you guys have a list somewhere of authorized Klipsch online retailers for items such as the IGroove? Thanks. Carl.

Owned and loved Klipsch speakers for years. The wife wanted a set of ipod speakers for the kitchen for Xmas. No need of the Gallery Air - overkill for this application. Yesterday, I ordered a IGroove SXT directly from Klipsch off of this website. The site showed the product as current. Today, received an email from an authorized vendor stating the product has been "discontinued," and that my order was cancelled. Called and spoke to Klipsch online ordering. Not any help - just a company contracted by Klipsch to take orders. Then called Klipsch product support and was on hold awhile before I hung up. Can anyone confirm the IGroove is discontinued? Is there a replacement?? Is Klipsch's only ipod option the Gallery Air now? Guess I might have to go another route unless I get a clarification. Thanks. Carl.

Very, very cool. Well done. Carl.

Agreed, those are model 19 types and not A7s. Enclosed are my A7s (with JBL E140s). Klipschorn bass bins are also behind the A7s, cut off at 200 hz, to round out my bottom end. Carl.

I am also a big a fan of tripath amps. And similar to some experiences, I have made a partial transition from tube amps because of them. I currently run Klipsch Synergys out on the covered porch with the Dayton 30 watter pictured in this thread. Very nice sound, decent power, but a little bit lacking on the top end (just a bit). In my main system, I run my upper horns both front and rear with Super T amps with upgraded stand alone power supplies. Once I heard them, it was no turning back. Carl.

Shhhh........don't tell them about the organization...............

No, but the glazed look in his eyes looks familiar....... Carl.

At lower to medium volumes, RF-7s are fine. My unmodded RF-7s were also harsh, however, at loud volumes and even with some pretty nice gear on the front end. Dean's mod helped considerably. If I still had them, I would try bi-amping RF-7s with a stout SS amp on the lower end and either tubes or a digital chip amp on the top. Its the big titanium driver on top, and the RF-7s are top heavy in stock form. I personally prefer aluminum and phenolic drivers for horns for listening to music, but my taste is not everyone elses. I also agree, however, that Reference IV's voicing is too laid back for my tastes, and given the choice between the two, I prefer the Reference III series. That's what makes this an interesting subjective hobby. Everyone hears things differently. Carl.

What David said. He has plenty of options in this area if he wants to form his own impressions with his own ears. But 'nada. Carl.

Enjoy your setup and be proud of it. Thanks for the tip on Petty's latest. Will have to check it out.... Carl.

Yes, he is. Carl.

See, you are such a well-respected member of this community, people are not sure when you are joking.....or not...[] Carl.

Wow, a couple of us just watched portions of the 2007 DVD "Live from Radio City Music Hall" last night (of course at "forceful" volumes in the Cave). How sad. Dio will truly be missed. Carl.

Rudy, there are a number of us out there that can relate to what you are hearing and your preferences. First of all, congrats on the sound that you are achieving from the PH 4525 and BM D750 combo, but frankly I anticipated that you might have some success based on my experience with the similar Goldwood horn (but with a different driver). As for your potential movement to direct radiators, I would only say trust your gut and your ears. After all, as you know, the only one you need to make happy is you........After owning Belles and Cornwalls (after a succession of various cone woofers), I also missed some "punch" after moving to Khorns. It took me a couple of years attempting to tweak the Khorns and/or trying other remedies/supplements before I quenched my thirst. I ended up with somewhat of a non-traditional solution by keeping the Khorn bass bins up front in the corner (as subs), and moving to JBL-fed VOTTs for my "punch" up front. I also added Forte direct radiators to beef up the punch in the rear (with my Belles). So, I can understand your current thoughts regarding the DBB as being a simple build to get the sound that you are looking for (as opposed to, e.g , a more complicated build such as the Jubilee bass bins). Or, like you said, the Jamborees may also be an option. Carl.

My experience as well. Nice, wide sounding speakers but I've yet to hear them rock out in a hard way. I've heard them with 150 tube watts and 500 ss watts. Personally, I like them but they seem to be lacking real "drive" in the low end when it comes to listening to rock IMO. Midrange can be overwhelming as well......but the same is true with other Heritage speakers. Agreed. This is from someone who has owned CWs most of his life. When you listen to Khorns VERY loud, it's an experience you don't forget. Cornwalls sound great but at very high volume they can be ear piercing with many recordings. Nothing beats them with acoustic jazz at low to moderate volume. As far as using more than one pair for non-multichannel music, it's fun but not for me. I'm a 2-channel vinyl guy and I like having a soundstage, imaging, depth and all that good stuff. Maybe some day I'll find a way to enjoy my tube gear in a multichannel environment but so far I always end up where I started. I am glad to see that others are not afraid to admit the truth about the Cornwall. Indeed at lower to moderate volumes maybe the best or at least one of the best Jazz speakers on the planet. Also it does an admiral job at rock and roll at lower to medium volumes. But come on people, Klipsch made much better rock speakers than the Cornwall. I think Colter is probably right though. Best bang for your buck or all around honors would probably favor the Cornwall. Yep. I agree that at lower to moderate volumes that Cornwalls are one of the best Jazz speakers out there, and they do fine for rock at lower volumes. But, let them really rip, and it can be a painful experience. And yes, different people have different impressions on what constitutes "loud." You cannot really get around that squeezed short mid horn when you are talking about the original crossover designs. That being said, the above comments do not really apply to Cornwall IIIs due to a change in crossover parts and philosophy. But, if one were to run some of the earlier crossover designs with the heresy mid found in the Cornwall III -- whoo!! Carl.

Sorry to hi-jack this thread, but can you tell me where you cross the 902's at & what crossover you are using? I currently cross my 902s over at 800 hz to the VOTTs. I use an active crossover, a vintage analog Nikko, which is a really clean, low-distortion unit. Back in the day, I crossed the 902s over at 500 hz when I ran straight Khorns, and they did fine. Carl.

Thanks bud, I appreciate it. I had never heard Radian drivers before so these were a blind buy for me. Based on reputation and positive reviews, I decided to try the 850s. Boy are they massive. As you know, I've done the titanium and phenolic thing and instead, my ears seem to really prefer those aluminum drivers (and these also have the mylar surrounds). Detailed at all volumes yet they do not pin your ears back at high spls. Heaven for me at least. Carl.

There is alot more money than that sitting in the room pictured. Double that to start. Absolutely, at least twice that amount of money in that room - I was just focusing on the speaks. Don't get me wrong, I would love to hear the setup. I love my horns, but also appreciate other topologies. For example, I had to make a place for my Andromedas in the garage....... Carl.