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PEOPLE,PEOPLE, PEOPLE Gary, wouldn't I like to! Neo, ocean breezes? We may be getting somewhere. Tell me more. Zappa! De'se 're sophisticated ladies. They'll just think I'm strange. (I am but they dont't have to know that) By the end of Goin to Montana and Yellow Snow they'll be gone. Radio, I don't want to talk about my speakers, I want them to do their magic on them and that means tunes. Oh, and do you really think they'd go out with me while they were sober?

I'm being tough on you guys tonight. Got my gorilla mask and I'm not sure it will carry the day. I'm looking more for getting them wild, a slightly crazed look in their eyes. The super smooth stuff if for losing yourself with a sensous soul in the early half sleep, half aroused morning on a rainy Sunday. LET'S GET CRACKING HERE PEOPLE! I'm counting on you.

I'm in the same sort of pickle. There's a certain type of jazz I like but I have no idea who who does this stuff. Can't even describe it quite accurately but I'll try to it this way. Peter Gunn: haunting trumpet and late night loneliness in a cheap hotel with a neon light flashing. Also: Obscure short-lived tv show in the early 60's called "Pete Kelly's Blues". They always opened with the band playing a cool number. Music is almost a transition from rag time to blues. Again, can't quite say it right but need help.

Artto, I suspect it's because with the popularity and recognizability (is that actually a word) of the name amongst most stereophoiles, Klipsch has become in a effect a standard. Affordability, engineering, build quality and dynamics have made it benchmark to compare against. Does even one speaker company have the legion of fans that Klipsch has? Sure B&K, Mirage etc. have their fans and move a lot of units. But, a lot of the speaker builders in places like Stereophile are almost, in effect, mom and pop operations. Nobody's going to buy that crap if they run comparisons between oh say the Extended Pinky 2000 and the Holyier Than Though 153A.

.....Besides a quart of Scotch. Ok, tomorrow nights Date Night. Picking up the twins and taking them to dinner and a movie then back to my place for an aperitif. I was thinking of sliding the soundtrack from Shaft into the changer, but I was thinking that might be bragging just a little bit too much. So what do you drop on the player when you trying to get them in the mood? What turns their eyes dreamy and their toes a curlin? Help me out here folks theres two of them! Guys and gals welcome. Why gals you say, who better I say. Of course the guys are thinking to themselves I dont need mood music Im always ready. Yeah right. May I submit as evidence the following witnessed and sworn to dialogue? Oh Harry, you want to fool around a little? Not right now Peaches, Im watching the game. Realy Harry, and just which one of the 3,436 games you watched this year is that one? (sound of rolling pin meeting meaty object.) Laid in candles, bubbly and set up the swing. Dont disappoint me.

When I said "resident sages" I wasn't kidding. Wonderful responses exspecially Gil's. Your use of analogies greatly enhances the understanding of a difficult subject for the non-technically oriented. If I got this correct it would seem that when all is said and done, the Class A amps produce a cleaner sound at the cost of power consumption, yet the A/B's probably bring a little more slam or livileness to the music at the cost of distortion. While an elegantly simple solution in one respect the Class A energy use drives engineers nuts because they hate the trade off. Still have a couple of questions, though. Why are the preponderence of maps procuded a/b's. Are they simpler to manufacture or because of their higher wattage they are more responsive to need to drive inefficient speakers? What happens if you build a realy high wattage Class A. Do you need your own nuclear power plant or is it because at certain point the signal degrades? Why are there no mid-fi price range class A's they all seem to cost a lot of dough. Finally, again what's this Class T stuff all about. Not trying to drag out the thread but it appears there is interest in learning about this subject from others besides myself.

Hell, if I could figure out half of what they are saying I'd probably subscirbe to a couple. For the reader it's not about info, it's about lust. Yeah, sex sells. Pretty pictures and gobbly**** about this and that and somebody's gonna be hot for it. Talkin about the gear, of course, seeing as I'm dating twins.

Ok. In another of my continuing series of roll your eyes and answer the poor fools question attempts to educate myself in all things stereo I raise today the subject of amplifier classifications. From the Audio Answers section of those fine folks at AudioAsylum, I have extracted the following: What is Amplifier Class A? What is Class B? What is Class AB? What is Class C? What is Class D? All of these terms refer to the operating characteristics Of the output stages of amplifiers. Briefly, Class A amps sound the best, cost the most, and are the Least practical. They waste power and return very clean signals. Class AB amps dominate the market and rival the best Class A Amps in sound quality. They use less power than Class A, and can be cheaper, smaller, cooler, and lighter. Note: Tried to but couldn't attach the entire section on this issue in respect of the authors copyright. Lets pass on C and D amps right now. What Im trying to figure out in common English is why class A would generally sound better than an A/B, why they cost so much more and what da hell is this talk Ive been hearing about class T. Also Ive seen passing reference to this is a Stereophile Class A recommendation. Huh? Is this the same thing? Picked up a copy of Stereophile once and the charts and graphs gave me a monster headache. What gives? Need our resident sages to weigh in on this one. After all, (optimistically) I cant be the only dolt here who doesnt fully understand this stuff.

Best way to get your feet wet is to post a topic up in 2 Channel about any comments or concerns you have about the Khorns. People are almost religous about those big daddy's so you will have plenty of feedback and get to meet some of the inmates. Don't be bashfull now. After all they are tolerant enough to let me run loose around here and I'm barely house trained.

I'm guilty, guilty, guitly! In trying to help out I sometimes get carried away right here in this Forum. Told a person here last week that my KG 5.2's were a three way, when they were a two way. It'll never happen again! OH, by the way Khorns should never, ever be placed in a corner, it really reduces the bass.

Don't give up on those speakers yet. It doesn't look the the crossovers were affected at all. Let them finish drying and give them a listen, they may sound exactly the same. If there're a little flat , or sound a little off, try the caulking method from the inside. Let the caulk cure at least six hours and try them again. As to new speakers, there's plenty of people here to give you info, but you'll have to provide some basic information like will you be using them primarily for music or Home theater. Room, size, type of music you like, amp or receiver you'll be driving them with etc. You'll get some good dguidance here and then you can go try them out and let your own ears make the final call. Keep us posted.

Hey nuclear, how about: "Send money, guns and lawyers, the ...has hit the fan"

Great discovery and congrats. I listen to everything but there ain't nuthin better than the blues!

Gil has a geat idea and certainly Larry would be the one to lead. Of course, Larry, there are always details to be worked out and that could be part of the planning process for the next gathering, one I would hope to attend. Thanks for the kind comment Doger, I'm blushing so bad I don't even need a light on in the room. Gary, I don't know if I should be congratulating you or HUNTING YOU DOWN YOU DIRTY DOG! (smily thingy here). If I decide to let you live I'llbe happy to brew up some Salt Potatoes, nd maybe smoke a haunch of something.

Great report. Thanks for sharing it with us. I particularly llked your use of different types of music from classical to blues to rock. Enjoy it.

Thanks to his generosity, I had an opportunity this weekend to stop by and visit with Larry and his 62 Khorns. Now Larrys an affable fellow of obvious intellect, a substantive understanding of classical music and the dedication to create a system worthy of the music. Now those of you on this Board who have followed my hi-jinks closely (see signature below) are of course aware that my musical taste are quite ordinaire running from rock to blues. As far as my intellect, well lets put it this way: I came out of the 60s with 12 brain cells and have been loosing them ever since. Hell, Im been known to state that Mitch Ryders Devil with a Blue Dress On" is the pinnacle of musical development. So, GaryMD also joins us. We warm up the tubes with a couple of tracks from the ethereal voice of Eva Cassidy and segue directly into in the Indy gatherings Number One Hit with a bullet: Horsts The Planets We march with firm step through Mars and move inward with Mercury. Cant stop there, though so Larry slides out of its sleeve a remarkable recording of Ludwig Bs Seventh Symphony. And a complete composers score to go with it! Now my music reading skills are rudimentary but under his guidance we follow along and I am virtually transported into the music, its rhythm, its cadence. Please understand dear readers, that while often exposed to classical music it has only intermittedly captured my imagination. I might also add this is also my first experience with Heritage (start at the top, I always say) and really highend players and tube amps. Then theres the icing on the cake. Larry goes out of his way to provide a cogent explanation of the back ground for pieces like The Planets, and by revealing the traditional structuring of works like Beethovens provides insight into the practical aspects of the creative process he used as the basis for creating his works of genius. And so my fellow Klipschers, just what did your correspondent, the mighty raconteur thebes have to say to Larry about all this: Wow, Cool Thats Great Man (At least I didnt say: Awesome dude!) Well needless to say I have been sucked in big time. Yes, as I write this Im thinking over a visit to the store for maybe a little Wagner, might try out that Mozart fellow and for some reason Im thinking of The Rites Of Spring. If this keeps up Ill be drinking my beer with pinky extended. Thanks Larry

Great topic. John Prine: Sam Stone Can't remember the name of the song but the chorus line is: "I used to sleep at the feet of Old Glory, and awake it the Dawn's Early Light, but to my suprise when I opened my Eyes I was the Victim of the Great Compromise" Eric Burton: "Sky Pilot" I think Pete Seeger "Stuck in the Big Muddy" Arlo Guthrie: "Alice's Restaurant" and, of course "Eve of Destruction"

Thanks Tom, Never even thought of that that of an approach to HT and I can almost agree with you. You are right about many of the better movies being made in time when there was only mono. Also many of the movies made today, especially the summer blockbusters, are filled with glitzy sound effects just for the heck of it, they don't add anything to the movie per se. But then again, I don't think the first few minutes of Saving Private Ryan would be quite the same without the excellent surround sound effects. Enjoy that Altec!

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Best thing with cold beer in the summer is a couple of dozen cherrystone clams with drawn butter with maybe a hunk of extra, extra sharp cheddar cheese on the side.

Tom, why mono?

Good work folks, this little ongoing effort to feed the music machine continues to grow. Several excellent recommendations last week and over a 100 people stopped by to give it a look. Rules are simple: Name of Individual/Group, Title,type of music as best you can (rock, classic etc.) and wheather its's a cd, lp etc. My offering for his week is: Doug MacLacleod, "Come to Find" a cd put out by Audiotquest. Acoustic blues by a master. Includes a guest appearance by Charlie Musselwhite on two tracks and is very, very well recorded.

Welcome and sorry to hear about your trouibles. As Dean indicated unless the water rose to about an inch or so of where you hook up the speaker wires the crossovers should be fine. As far as warpage I'm not sure I can't recall if the 4.2's are totally sealed units but I think they are. In that case a close inspection of the bottom joints when they have completly dried is in order. If you are comfortable with this remove the passive woofer (it's four philips head screws, disconect the wiring and lay the woofer to the side. Turn off the lights and run a pen light along the bottom joints while looking inside the case to see if any light comes through. You may have to use a small hand held mirror inside the case to see verything. If it does you can mark the spots and use some wood filler to restore the integrity of the speakers. You could then prime and paint the speakers a satin black to reduce the visual impact of the warpage. If these speakers are ported you could tape a vacum cleaner hose to the port, turn on the cleaner and place some tissue paper as various points along the bottom to see if air is coming out. Unless the warpage is very large they should sound the same as before they got wet.

Speakers are on the lawn, something's burning on the grill, but what else do you use to fill up your plate with? Sure, corn, garden fresh tomatoes, but how about that special potato salad, greens, whatever. What's that speical summer side dish which really means summer to you. I'll start the ball rolling with one of the wierder things you ever heard of: Salt Potatoes That's right Salt Potatoes. You take four pounds of new potatoes (you know, the small ones with the thin skins), boil water and add, and I'm not making this up: one whole pound of salt. Cook until done, drain, rinse and top with melted butter. As far as I know only people from the Syracuse, New York area do this and I'm telling you, do it once and you'll never have a summer cookout without them. So my mouths drooling and I have to feed the angry beast I call my belly. Help me out.

My idea of 2 Channel nirvana is my shoes off, my feet up with a glass of wine while sitting in Nicoltl's pad with the theme song from "Shaft" playing through that awesome looking setup. Can you dig it? Just re-read the first sentence but don't want to change it. No double-entendre meant. Just mean it's the type of pad Shaft would thrown down in even if it doesn't haven't any shag rugs.