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congratulations... good buy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-SC35-7-1-Original-Owner-Class-D-/151484026205? $350 shipped to forum members.

offers... dont be embarrassed. Please remember I have to ship this bad boy.

I cant makes heads or tails of your thread post... but I agree, cd's can sound good. I don't think they can sound great... at least in comparrison to other lossless, albeit limit in choices, formats. Currently I dont use dsd or other digital formats, other than those with physical discs... perhaps that should change with a server.

I am probably moving up to a different AVR or pre/pro, I Want to see if anyone here might be looking for a used very nice condition Pioneer SC35 elite Class D AVR... original box, nice cosmetic condition, fully functional... No known issues at all. MCACC mic, original manual and free shipping via fedex. 7.1 140wpc DSD to PCM Orig msrp $1600 350$ shipped

Dynamic range comparisons

oh boy... you are in for a treat! the monaural aspects to digital to analog conversion seems to really yield exceptional results.

I have no idea what I am looking at in terms of the newer Emotiva line, but suffice to say those thing look beautiful... very nice esthetic. Let us now how they sound with charged cornwalls!

Here if not sold...

familiar? like anything, research. not once have I said anything about audio quality of either... other than to speak about technical aspects that make each one attractive to any perspective buyer, including myself.

so send me one...

heard them in my system... no I have not. feel free to send me a Auralic Vega to preview, then (for the first time in this thread) I will say that I have actually heard one in my system and I will give you me honest opinion up to and possibly including purchasing one. until then, I really don't get the question except one that attempts to marginalize. let me ask you guys, lol, did any of you have the auralic vega OR the Wyred SE in your system prior to?

for sure... the Vega is the next generation, no doubt about that.

very nice

You haven't tested the Wyred SE have you... I think Wyred ($2500) has a sigma attached as NOT BEING a serious audiophile manufacturer, yet they have been around for a long time... specially in comparison to Auralic($3500). I also think that anything that is not clocking at least at Femto rates is not even in the same ball park. I could also wait until the Bel Canto 3.7 DAC (probably $3500-$4000) comes out very soon and will use a proprietary clocking in the femto range, which will probably be better than both of these... but it WILL be more expensive. getting a ESS elite pioneer SC85 ($1200 + sell my SC35 for $350'ish) is also a very viable solution for me, because I am still currently using a OEM oppo 93 dac (with great results mind you), and the pioneer would be a big step up in conversion and would allow me to take a wait and see attitude with regards to what will eventually happen in the DAC world... or at least until prices begin dropping a little. like I said, still conflicted. serious monies for a serious product.

to be honest, I am still slightly conflicted on what I am getting... both the Auralic and the Wyred SE are outstanding DAC's at similar price points and are very similar in performance, but the Wyred comes with Vishay Resistors... both are femto equipped and Wyred is ESS 9018, the auralic I am not sure. I am also close to getting a new SC85 Pioneer AVR that is ESS equipped but is obviously does not come with a femto clocking.

been doing some searching and the Pioneer Sc85 (best of all worlds in the elite line) looks like a SMOKING deal... ESS DAC, 135+wpc into 9.2, MCACC PRO, 4K pass thru, HMDI 2.0... just about everything you need. at a GREAT price. I see these all over the place for under $1200us. Also upgradable to Atmos... if you're into that sort of thing. I have been thinking about getting one myself to upgrade from my SC35

OP...

bump for some serious gear open to offers... including some trades.

bump for some serious gear

Maybe I could just get another pioneer elite...

Sell me yours @adiscount

Then NAD is an awesome choice if those are your main goals. Bill See... here is my quandry. I want the pre to have no effect, as in invisible.

Ive noticed a few stand alone dacs are also pre amps... but no video processing.

I've got $1000 that the serial number ISN'T scratched out and the distributor, here in las vegas, is authorized. I will let you option buy out for $550 if you feel you have made a miscalculation, otherwise it's full value payoff.