Travis In Austin

Great video, thanksnfor posting that. He cut over 600 songs as a session player ... in 1963 alone. A member of the Wrecking Crew, and member of the Beach Boys for 6 months. Here is one of him and amother famous picker, my favorite part starts abiut 1:55. https://youtu.be/-RuMnzSpvlg

You’re living Groundhog Day Man! You, me, Tarheel, Wardsweb, many others had a blast with reel to reel without ever meeting, unbelievable. I reaaly hope to meet you and Tarheel one day Travis

This is one of, if not THE, best original topic/post's I have read all year. Thanks for that. Travis

Here in an article from Time (which I thought was quite good) about medical marijuana. Here’s What Science Says About Medical Marijuana http://time.com/3931863/medical-marijuana-benefits/ It discusses that the the condition that has the strongest link to the effectiveness of medical marijuana is chronic pain. For other conditions the verdict is still out.

Very nice looking indeed, MC and balanced as options. Hmmmm

Any good alternatives you can suggest? I grew up on white bread and in recent years my wife has been packing my lunches with different types of 'whole grain' breads in an attempt to be more health conscious but from some of the things I've read here and there I don't know what's good and what's not. I'm still very uninformed on this but that needs to change. I would start here, an easy to read article that cuts through all of the BS, looks at mainstream diets from a scientific perspective, but in layman's terms. Edit: Here is the link to the article. http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/science-compared-every-diet-and-the-winner-is-real-food/284595/ It is very clear fruits and vegetables are an essential foundation for a healthy diet. As said before here, processed foods shoud be avoided. We have been trying to follow Mediterranean diet with a lot of success which is mentioned in the study. Here are a couple of excerpts from the article. "Among the salient points of proven health benefits the researchers note, nutritionally-replete plant-based diets are supported by a wide array of favorable health outcomes, including fewer cancers and less heart disease. These diets ideally included not just fruits and vegetables, but whole grains, nuts, and seeds. Katz and Meller found "no decisive evidence" that low-fat diets are better than diets high in healthful fats, like the Mediterranean. Those fats include a lower ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids than the typical American diet. "They also found carbohydrate-selective diets to be better than categorically low-carbohydrate diets, in that incorporating whole grains is associated with lower risks for cancers and better control of body weight. Attention to glycemic load and index is "sensible at the least." Eating foods that have high glycemic loads (which Katz says is much more relevant to health outcomes than glycemic index—in that some quality foods like carrots have very high indices, which could be misleading) is associated with greater risk of heart disease."

Thank you for that.

When I worked in emergency at Downtown Toronto hospital the nurses got me to take polaroids (yes showing the age there) of teenagers after giving them activated charcoal and syrup of ipecac. They looked pathetic. We gave the pictures to the parents when they came and picked up their little angels.Typing this from treatment center I am in charge of this weekend. 34 beds and it's a revolving door here. Reading the comments here and it really seems the US drug policy is archaic. All the best to your brother twelveblocks!! I heard in Canada you can get Tylenol 1s and 222's over the counter at any pharmacy. Is that true or an urban myth?

It is one of my many weaknesses. I have watched a documentry or two on the subject on Netlix that were very informative. I will try to locate the names of them and post them here. Travis Travis

He will be in my thoughts

That is a topic that will get this thread locked quicker than two shakes of a lambs tail. I'm against the the upscheduling. But I think it is important for people to know the facts behind how things change in government, whether it is at an agency or a legislative body. HCPs was a great topic, it is a public health ISSUE. Which by definition means it has, at least, two sides. I think it is important for people to understand how the process really works, whether it is getting a drug upscheduled, or anything else. It is good to be skeptical about anything that happens in government. Some things are changed in smoke filled back rooms with elected officials and lobbyists. This wasn't one of those. There were people lined up on two sides of that issue, representing their own interests, including patient advocacy groups. It is important that people understand the process, and that they have a say. It apparently started with one physician submitting a petition back in 1999. Regardless of what side of the issue we are in, it is important to know the facts behind how it happened and what the arguments were on both sides. It is only in that way that one can have any chance at changing the outcome the next go around. Medical Marijuana is another good public health, drug policy issue that is coming from the exact opposite angle. Getting a drug down scheduled, or eliminated, from scheduling, state by state. Travis

They mention in some repirts that they "cited" her. Whatever type of lawyer, if she is only charged with misdemeanor possession of marijuana they would only cite here her. In Colorado they wouldn't even arrest her.The big question I have is: Is she going to bond him out again?

You can still carrry firearms on a general aviation (not for hire) aircraft. I have flown with my guns in my plane to go hunting in several states, and Canada. It is more complicated to go into Canada, and the tricky part is going into an airport with commercial operations and TSA. But generally, if you are legal to possess a firearm, and it is a legal firearm, and it is secured, you are protected under the federal "Safe Passage Act." I have no idea on what the law with regard to drones is, but I suspect it is not protected. The airspace above your property is in fact yours until you hit controlled airspace. In some areas near busy airports it can begin at the surface, most rural areas begin at either 700' above ground level (AGL) which is Clasd E, or 1,200' AGL, Class G. The FAA and FCC can limit the height of radio towers on your property, require you to light it a certain way, etc. Depending on what airspace you are in you can be limited in your ability to launch a model rocket. The United States directly, controls all the the airspace between 18,000 MSL and 60,000 MSL, this is what would orevent you from launching a satellite into space from yiur property. Above 60,000 gets into space law which involves space law, multiple agencies, etc. and I am not very familar with all that entails as my plane has a ceiling of about half that so I have never needed to worry abiut that. Texas does in fact have a laser light law in the Penal Code. I suspect this came about because if some kids goofing off with them near DFW. Of course local zoning laws would have height restrictions on actual structures. So yes you do own the space above your property, but like everything else, subject to local, state, and federal control.

Great to see you back, I missed your posts.

mow that was cool

She was arrested for misdemeanor possession of marijuana? They arrest for possession of marijuana in NC? In Texas she would have received a citation to appear in court. http://abc11.com/news/nc-$188m-jackpot-winner-cited-for-drug-possession-/878114/

That was all clearly a front set up by the DEA, NSA and the CIA. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/10/28/business/fda-shift-on-painkillers-was-years-in-the-making.html?referrer=

Apparently, this guy started it all. A Physican from Syracuse, New York who first petitioned the FDA to upschedule HCPs back in 1999. A pain specialist who also specialized in addiction. He was probably was on loan from the CIA to the NSA at the time. Travis http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/syracuse_doctor_paved_the_way_for_tighter_controls_on_highly_addictive_painkille.html

Journal of American Medical Association on overdose deaths. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1653518

Drug overdoses in Utah http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51689248-78/prescription-drugs-drug-watson.html.csp

In 2009 therenwas apparently a pill junket between Kentucky and Florida, n with overdoses happening backnin Kentucky. http://www.kentucky.com/2009/04/12/758845_ky-sees-rise-in-overdose-deaths.html?rh=1

Article by Forbes that speakes a little about liver toxicity with acetaminophen. But no ddtail on deaths. http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/08/22/what-you-need-to-know-about-new-restrictions-on-hydrocodone-combinations/

Because a lot of street pills are generated by this connection. Maybe some, but from what I'm reading, they make it sound like the stuff is everywhere. For that to happen, almost everyone would have to be selling their prescriptions. I also learned that the new laws and changes in scheduling has barely put a dent in it -- so where's all of this crap coming from? Where is it coming from? That is the big question. The short answer is that the DEA requested the FDA to reschedule it. They have been requesting an upscheduling for the last five years which the FDA always turned down. In 2011 or 2012 Congress passed a bill about one thing, but had a provision that required the FDA to look at it again. They looked at it again in 2012 and Health and Human Services told FDA it didn't need to be upscheduled and it ended there. They voted 11 to 1 ro reccomend no upscheduling. Then in 2012 new data was released showing a big upswing in number of hydrocodone prescriptions. At the same time CDC issued information that drug overdoses had become the biggest cause of accidential death in the US exceeding automobile accidents for the first time, and that approximately 15,000 deaths a year were from the overdose of prescription drugs containing hydrocodone. The DEA requested a rehearing based on the "new" information. The two day hearing was conducted in January of 2013. They voted 19 to 10 to reccomend upscheduling, and the head of the FDA followed and approved that recommendation. He then sent it over to the DEA to amend the Schedules and regulations. It went through the DEA process and the changes were announced in the summer of 2014 with an effective date in October if 2014. That is the general flow of what happened procedurally. Doctors, patients, pharmacists and othet stakeholders were allowed input, testimony, etc. Probably too soon to tell if it having any effect. Travis

The commercial guys I know swear by Honda power for their "small push behind" mowers. They also say it is very important to change the oil per Honda's reccomendations, or at least once a year, minimum. Not sure what it is about Honda, but apparently it is the way to go. Travis

Was it lawyer driven? Was it doctor driven? Do you know? Do you care?The head of the FDA is a doctor, an MD. I doubt they had politicians testifying regarding at hearings about whether to change the classification. yeah, I care because I am affected. 1. the DEA is how drugs get on different schedules, right? pasted The Obama administration moved Thursday to restrict prescriptions of the most commonly used narcotic painkillers in the U.S. in an attempt to curb widespread abuse. The Drug Enforcement Administration said it would reclassify hydrocodone combination drugs such as Vicodin and put them in the category reserved for medical substances with the highest potential for harm. The "rescheduling" means people will be able to receive the drugs for only up to 90 days without obtaining a new prescription. The opioid pills are taken by millions of Americans, including after dental surgery, for back problems and broken bones. Currently the pills can be refilled up to five times and prescriptions can cover a 180-day period. The new classification will take effect in 45 days, the DEA said. "Today's action recognizes that these products are some of the most addictive and potentially dangerous prescription medications available," said DEA Administrator Michele Leonhart. ------------------------------------------ 2. who is michele leonhart? A doctor? Um, no. she is not a doctor. pasted--Leonhart graduated from Bemidji State University in 1978 with a degree in criminal justice, ------------------------------------ drugs is politics my friend. did you watch the colorado changover to legal pot? yes, therre are doctors in agencies, but rules are made by legislators, cops and lawyers. so do I care? yes I care. I care that my health is in the hands of actual doctors, not cops lawyers and legislators with their political and money agendas. i was on pain meds for several years with no problems of any kind BEFORE michele leonhart, a bureaucrap cop and politician changed the rules and schedules. the change? more inconvenience and insults and cost and much indignity. but why would lawyers and pols care about any that??? LOL!!! jus teasin ya~! your chasin a fly when you should spend your time chasin the big game - booze and cigs. christ, leave the sick people alone, they have enough problems already, don't they? It is good you care, because, as you say, it directly affects you.The DEA does not control which drugs are on what schedule. The FDA provides the determination on the classification of drugs, the DEA implements the determination by the FDA by amending current federal regulations, or implementing new ones. In January of 2012 the Public Advisory Committee met to consider whether HCPs should be reclassified from from III to II. That committee has doctors and pharmacists on it. Not a single lawyer or politician are on that committee. That committee has a consumer representative and an industry representitive on it. They voted 19 to 10 in favor of recommending upscheduling. From there it went to the Director of the FDA, a doctor, who approved and adopted and approved that recommendation. They then sent it to the DEA requesting that they issue new regulations. They are required to go through a rule making process, with more testimony and opportunity for public comment. They implimented the reccomendation of the FDA, announced a New Rule" in the summer of 2014, which became effective in October of 2014. Here is the best synopsis I could find, it happens to be by the pharmacists'association, which took a neutral position.http://www.pharmacist.com/fda-advisory-committee-votes-favor-hydrocodone-rescheduling Here are the minutes of the Advisory Committee meeting which show who the members were and their backgrounds. All if the testimony from that meeting is available in line, it was available for live streaming at the time. All submissions are available, as well as all of briefing materials given to the members prior to the meeting. 19 to 10 is about a 2 to 1 ratio. It doesn't mean they were right. There obviously 10 members with an opposing viewpoint. In 2012 there was also a meeting to upschedule Hydocodone, this was opposed by HHS, and the vote was about 11 to 1 against as I recall. So what changed? New data about rise in prescriptions for HCPs, overdose data, epidemogical studies, etc. At this meeting in 2013 some family members of on people who overdosed on HCPs testified, which I am sure had an emotional impact. Hydrocodone had always been a schedule II drug. Hydrocodone, less than 15mg, mixed with other substances was a class III. It looks to me, the big concern of the doctors on the committee is that oxycodone, including Oxycotin, prescriptions have remain flat along with production, while hydrocodone has surged over the same time period. The facts just do not support your conclusion that the upscheduling was the result of politicians and lawyers. Lawyers, I am sure, wrote the amended regulations, but that is what lawyers do. If the committee of the FDA had reccomended against upscheduling, it never would have happened. So if you want to paint with broad strokes, yes politicians and lawyers are to blame, for everything you find right with the country, and everything you find wrong. But the reccomendation in this specific instance wad 19 doctors and pharmacists against 10 of the same. Travis That's the process. My concerns are the political motivations. You can say DEA is just some "typists" following direction of doctors, but that's politically naive. Here's a quote from the director of the American Academy of Pain Management:"Despite the efforts of the Academy’s policy and advocacy staff to suggest less restrictive alternative strategies to reduce misuse, abuse, and diversion of HCCP, rescheduling is soon to be a reality. While we remain concerned about the potential implications of this change for patients’ access to HCCP, we hope that pain management clinicians will find ways to accommodate patients’ needs with minimal disruption. Please inform us if you encounter unanticipated problems, or if you have suggestions for practices that you have found helpful in responding to the change in scheduling. And, as always, thank you for being a member of the Academy, the nation’s premier organization for all clinicians who provide pain care." Our total drug policy in USA is derived from the global war on drugs, devised and directed by the USA. in that realm, no one is concerned about health matters of sick people. No one. The little people at the bottom of all that heap of policing are always the losers, just like this time. From prison terms to pain patients, none of this war on drugs that is about health or helping people. That's never the motivation of these laws and regulations. If health was of interest BOOZE and CIGARETTES would be the targets. Doesn't take a genius. There is an old expression that people can not comprehend the meaning of a forest when they are counting branches on a tree. I'm way too stupid to argue the inner detail of government rule making processes with you that are filled with legal jargon. But not so stupid that I don't understand what motivates kings, crooks, moneymen, and power mongers in any society. Just because the weak are powerless doesn't mean they can be fooled by legal snowjobs. Why? Because we can all see the forest no matter how many trees put up. My doc is extremely wise and experienced and not a politician. She explained the great financial pressure through Medicare that is always a federal hammer. This is far more involved than is being represented here. Thanks for the discussion. Note: dictated to, and typed by Jessica for Joe. It is all politics, but not necessarily elected officials. It is all about money, even if it is only to increase the size of one's own agency. They took a vote, 19 to 10, that sounds pretty political to me. Even so, it was pretty transparent. You would think the doctors would be all for it, reclassification, they get you in twice as often. But about a quarter of hydrocodone scripts are written by GP, family practice doctors, I could see them being against it big time. I don't understand why the pharmacists' association took a neutral position, I would think that there would be more money in it for them, but maybe it is more paperwork and money they can't be paid for. The good news is you apparently have good doctors and you are able to get what you need. Unfortunately my friend Joe's wife could not, and I am really pissed off about that. Travis