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max, i also read your scribings(long or short) i just came to the realization that the long,long,long,very long. didnt refer to your weekend (lol) and that it refered to your post!!! your posts are , um, well written and detailed. jay

thanks for the review!! iv'e been on the fence... so now im goint to order a pair jay

---------------- On 1/31/2005 3:44:59 PM bclarke421 wrote: You suck! But of course, you're right. ---------------- SEE!!!! thats funny and thanks for your support jay

ok... first of all im not the forum police. that said , im a short time member. in the time ive been involved with this forum, ive learned a lot, shared some back and in general had a great time. over the last few weeks ive noticed a trend where some people who have differing opinions get fairly nasty with each other. putting down each others,equipment/ tastes in music /brain power ect.ect. that in and of itself is bad enough, but when it is done with the pretense that they speak for every other member of this forum thats crazy. from what i have seen the majority of the members are soft spoken and kind even when they disagree! this is the way it should be. this is the way it has to be! having been a member of more than a few forums where the threads and or posts in a thread degraded to nothing more than a pissing match, it more often than not signals the beginnig of the end! the mods take control, people loose interest , and find somewhere other to spend thier time. i dont want us to go that way also. the keyboard is a powerfull weapon! it can do harm when you cant even see your "enemy". it is also not a very accurate weapon,many times hurting people who are nothing more than innocent bystanders. people who may normaly be soft spoken and kind can be effected by this yearly thing called winter, it gets light late, it gets dark early, it effects people. statisticly it effects more than 50 percent!! case in point, i have seen recent posts(funny or not) where people interject something they think is funny, and get blasted for it! as long as it doesnt hurt any one, great let the quips fly. it makes for more interesting reading! i like many here enjoy a good argument, as long as you dont say that i suck, my equipment sucks ect.ect. its fine with me, and i would think that it would be fine with most forum members.(although i would never pretend to speak for everyone) the point i made above about it getting personal, is where we should all draw the line. i started this topic because i was finding it increasingly uncomfortable to read through some of the threads here, and couldnt believe some of the things being said. if im out of line im sorry but i felt it needed saying spring is around the corner!! and i hope we can all get along till then jay

ok.. with all the talk of the zebra wood cornwalls... must have pics!!! gary??? jay

as a side note, to view the pics of this tt (wow) turn off the pop up blocker!! jay

most likely dirt in the balance control slowly turn it all the way right and left several times also if you have access to a can of clean/dry air you can blow the control out wile turning it hope this helps i dont know what it would cost to ship something from the us but i bet it would more than make up the differance in cost vs buying on the internet jay

thanks, thats all i could ask for jay

you should go to updates and mods there are several threads about building boxes jay

a friend of mine has the $6k runco he likes my sony better, so do i we both use stewart firehawks jay

---------------- On 1/29/2005 10:49:33 PM bclarke421 wrote: That Wolverine was made by EV, I think. Their triaxials are among the better stuff available from that period. Not Altec, but decent. It deserves better than being hung on a wall ala Applebees. (No offense.) Waiting for the trifecta, Thebes? ---------------- none taken. if i somehow end up with this it will go into an clear tuned box with a mirrored rear panel, i will power it with an antique blaupunkt (sp) tube amp jay

---------------- On 1/29/2005 8:16:10 PM analogman wrote: "tkot" wrote: now you went and did it, a-man artto SIGNED his reply (hope you dont need any advise on room accoustics) jay Thank you for your concern, very thoughtful of you, but it's OK, I know how to read and use the public library. Old Colony has an excellent selection of titles on the subject as well. I'm not sure if they carry artto's books though. Ah well... As always, Analogman ---------------- dude you missed the point... you make the comment that "humor is difficult" and dont understand or abide by it?? remember its MY thread!!! and i dont see picture books helping with room acoustics!!! jay p.s im going to dinner so im not disinterested, just hungry!! see ya later jay

so lets review.... more power is good... better recordings are good... humor, is good, as long as people understand that it is humor... room noise is bad.... equipment noise is worse!!... most off the shelf recordings have little DR... and i still want to know what the DR is of a vinal recording?? in closeing... thanks to all who responded to my thread!! i dont feel like a virgin anymore!!! this was my first thread that actually had some good discussion!! jay

---------------- On 1/29/2005 7:03:07 PM artto wrote: ---------------- On 1/29/2005 6:20:01 PM analogman wrote: I am diappointed that my "take" on life offends. It was intended, A JOKE. Sorry it was lost on you. With regards, Analogman ---------------- Ah, the old "joke" alibi to try and get out of it (AGAIN). No sir, the "joke" is on you. Your name says it all, and your posts consistently support it. The bias is quite apparent. Humor. It is a difficult concept, no? With no regards, artto ---------------- now you went and did it, a-man artto SIGNED his reply (hope you dont need any advise on room accoustics) jay

---------------- On 1/29/2005 6:40:47 PM edwinr wrote: The best dynamic range I've measured in my room with Klipschorns driven by a high quality 50 watt per channel solid state amplifier is around 20 db. Average listening levels measuring about 85 to 87 db then peaking at 105 to 107 db. So subjectively that's a fairly 'normal' listening level for me to listen to a jazz ensemble and a female vocalist. The peaks really surprised me. I didn't think I was playing my music that loud. ---------------- edwiner.... noi...but 50 watts per channnel. the measurements i took today were in 2.2 my cornwalls driven by a pair of 1200 watt amps and my yamaha subs(2 cabs / 4,15 inch drivers) driven by a 1000x2 pro amp and i got a 50+ dynamic??? v.s. your k-horns at 20 db??? you should try some better recordings!!! or a bigger amp, or amps remember the engineer who said more power is better??? jay

---------------- On 1/29/2005 6:34:23 PM thebes wrote: Thanks for all the nice comments guys. Fred I already have a 500c but it's a little to forward for me (probably needs a going over-sigh) but I'm really looking forward to hearing how this one sounds. So do you know anything about the lightbulb thing for reconditioning the caps. I had what may be for me a brilliant idea. What if I used a string of Christmas tree lights (non-blinking I would imagine)? I mean they are all low wattage and presumably would reduce the electricity into the receiver. Thoughts anyone? Tkot, I might, but what's up with this speaker. Is it valuable, why would people buy it. Could I use it to build a monster one-eared speaker for when I go deaf in one ear from leaning my head out the car window with my tongue hanging out. I want to play with my new toy but I need answsers so I don't blow it, or more likely, myself up.(famous line from a movie: "Where's your sargeant son". Reply: "Blowed up Sir!" ---------------- thebes, i have never seen or heard of this speaker before i have a wall of shame( blown drivers, bent boat props, broken race car parts ect) i just saw it and had to have it?? looks cool...yes?? jay

---------------- On 1/29/2005 4:48:52 PM Parrot wrote: Of course no one wants to listen to airplanes at realistic levels in their living room. They don't belong in your living room. ---------------- dont worry parrot, i wont forword this to the ht forum!! they would have a fit!!!(lol) jay

thebes... man... i have kissed up on more than one of your threads.... (read payback is due) i dont care how it sounds or if it even works but i WANT that speaker!!!!! would you be willing to part with it?? jay

parrot, my point exactly (we must have been typing at the same time) jinx jay

btt what is the db range of a regular record(vinal) v.s. say a half speed master ? after reading arrto's post i went outside with my meter i live in a quiet area and have little traffic ect i found about 50 db of birds chirping ect. there is no wind today so if a cd(no matter how crappy they sound) has 90 db of range and you use 40/50 db a your low referance. 90 db would seem enough to represent real life. i cant think of a lot of 140db noises that happen (without something blowing up close enough to hurt you!!) how quiet is quiet?? artto have you ever measured your room with all of your stuff off? i wonder what the db level of the ambient noise is in your room?? could this be refered to the noise floor of the room? ive read guys who post about an acceptable level of hum and noise in their tube stuff and i have listened to ss systems that also have a substantial noise floor, so if you add the equipment noise to the room noise, i can see that wide dynamic recordings would indeed be way loud at reasonable levels could this be the reason for the compression that everyone gripes about on the newer recordings(trying to keep the loud parts quieter) jay

artto, thanks for the reply (and interesting story) i didnt know that there was 90db of range on a cd thanks for the info i also have the time warp disc, and will play with that a little later( my wife's home from the mall) jay

after reading the thread about cd's sounding like crap i got to thinking about the dynamic range question. i started with some newer rock... not vary impressive maybe 15/20 db i then went to some of my older stuff and ended up with the alan parsons project "i robot" (mfcd804) on tracks 3 and 4 the dynamic range was much better with the master volume set at -25db i had peaks of 113/115 db and the softest parts were around 63/64 db. has anyone else played this game? if so what was the recording with the biggest range that you found?? jay

---------------- On 1/26/2005 9:37:17 PM Gilbert wrote: I've got a zit on my neck. ---------------- dude.. if you do lypo-suction you can get ZIT....from the bottom???? jay p.s. not saying that your a fathead or anything jay

well... if you must know... i tried viagra!!! it was ok... as long as you remember the 4 hour rule... oh wait.... he said, impedence..... never mind jay

does any one know who the ONE GUY is?? we all know one dont we ?? someone telling a story.......... and a bystander says..." ya well i know this ONE GUY who has something better/faster/worth more/ect ect than the story teller or the subject of the story tellers origional story?? but wait a minute.... what was this thread about??? jay