KlipsDude

I hope the new Heritage line is sucessful for Klipsch too!

Klipsch never makes a bad sounding speaker, no matter what model it is. I'm very happy with my RF-7's and Klipsch makes good quality products so I do hope the RF-83 are sucessful for Klipsch, hope the whole new line is sucessful for them because they deserve it to be with the quality they put into each product for the money!

I thought Kathy did too, besides who wouldn't want to be called "sweetie" by Kathy Mason! Well, maybe not JPM. JPM - His store is called "The Sound Broker" just like his handle on here.

Wow, you don't have to be rude to her. I'm not having any problems with my RF-7's and there are many folks running the RF-7's successfully but no need to start getting ugly to her. I'm surprised cuz your usually a pretty easy goin guy here.

Jay481985 said "most people find rotels not great with klipsch, try a different amp" This is totally untrue. There are so many people running the RF-7's with the Rotel RB-1080 and RB-1090 amps that I've read over and over in reviews that all say how great they are together. This is also a review a guy did on the Klipschorn's that talk about how well it went with his Rotel RB-1090 so I just think Jay doesn't realize that they do go well together. I'm running McIntosh with my RF-7's but I have heard a RF-7 setup with a Rotel RB-1090 and it sounded as good as my McIntosh setup!

Very good questions to very technical answers! Really need someone with a technical background in this area to answer those. Wish I could help but would like to know the answers myself.

Wow, surprised someone didn't answer your question by now.

The Audio Flynn had this not so very wise judgement to say: ***SS amps do not allow RF-7 to reach their full potential*** Now-Now, this is simply NOT TRUE. I'm running all SS and I'm getting beyond full potential bliss. The right SS can do wonders, you would be too surprised, don't be too close minded in this area to apply one for all and you will live and learn. [*]

If your that worried about shipping damage, than do like my Uncle did when he bought his RF-7's, rent a small U-Haul truck, pick up and bring'em home, he had to get his from a dealer out of state because no local dealer had them in stock. If you do ship, put insurance on it so if it does get damage, you won't have to pay for it. There are other really good shipping companies that take much better care than UPS (United Punching Service).

Wow, that's really sinful to give those babies up!

Hi, I'm running McIntosh Amp and Pre, the MC500 and C100. The CD Player is Marantz SA-11S1 Reference, and the IC are Ultra Reference, and the speaker cable is Ultra-Fat Reference III bi-wire. I've been under the impression I over paid for the speaker cable but the hifi guy talked me into it, saying it makes a difference. I like how well the cables are made and the easy connect with the banana plug and lock, but thought it was probably just a gimmick. Now that I have a 2nd pair of Klipsch RF-7 speakers, I switched between both speakers while playing, the 2nd pair has just regular 10g. copper ox.free wire and the 1st pair the Ultra-Fat Reference III bi-wire cable. I'm hearing a difference, the regular wire sounds more narrow and much more forward, the reference cable sounds more wide sound, more over-all silk smooth, more well rounded bass and tighter with more grip, overall music has a tad more detail, easier to hear, with more pleasing vocal clarity. I'm really shocked, I actually here a difference. Now I'm going to have to buy another expensive reference cable for the 2nd pair RF-7 when I get my second amp for it, now I'm gonna have to spend more $$$ again because I've gotten used to the nice cable sound and I don't care for the more narrow and forward sound of the regular wire. I guess some cables do make a difference in sound! It helps me get more silky smooth sound from the RF-7's. Who would have thought, guess I just learned something new cause I thought it was just a gimmick but maybe some cables really do what it says.

Sorry to hear jpm, that you never got the RF-7 right for you. Shame because they are truely a great speaker when you get every thing right for it! Glad to hear you found what works for you now. []

No matter how you feel about it, Klipsch ads do say the RF-7 are their flagship speaker, now the RF-83 is. The RF-7 are the flagship for Reference line and the Klipschorn is the flagship for the Heritage line. I still prefer the RF-7 over the Klipschorn's and it's just all a matter of preference to ones own ears. Neither is better or worse, just a different sound but very much both Klipsch sound.

I have the RF-7's and I don't have the problem you are having, my RF-7's sound so stunning and real that people that hear them want a pair and my friend and uncle did buy a pair and are very happy with the RF-7. All Klipsch speakers will reveal any weak point you have in your system, try and figure out if any thing you have in your system may be causing the bright/harsh sound, such as a DVD player, CD player, pre-amp. Some people don't feel Denon is the best choice for running with Klipsch but some say they are fine but I wouldn't know as I am running mine with McIntosh and I don't get any bright or harsh sound, and my RF-7's are all original stock, no DeanG mod needed here!!! My RF-7's do, and still do give me a tremendous WOW FACTOR every time I hear them and all I hear is WOW, I want a pair any time some one hears my system. They love it, and so do I. I just bought a 2nd pair a few weeks ago since I'm so happy with RF-7. The key to Klipsch speakers is find equip with a warmer sound so it will not produce the bright / harsh sound from the components.

When it doesn't fit, you can ship!

BillH2121 says: Quality, not quantity - both together are nice, only one is necessary Nope, both are even better! Quality and headroom to boot is a very good thing! It's all up to you, you make your choice and spend your money!

Bart Jackson had this to say: I suggest bypassing the amp and plugging the speakers into a outlet with a 30amp circuit breaker. Ok Bart, you be the first to do it, then come back and tell us just what you did to your speakers. []

It's hard to say how available the RF-7's are because I went with my Uncle to 3 dealers to try and find him a pair. He has spent a good deal of time with my RF-7's and now wants a pair now that he has the money and heard that they are being discontinued. We could not find a pair. The dealers told us that there is none to be had from where they can order them from and that they still haven't even got the new stuff in because it's later than they were told. So the dealer said no stock available and it's discontinued that they can't even order them if they wanted to. My Uncle isn't happy. We are going to try some dealers out of state and see what we can find because he wants a brand new pair and said he doesn't want to go for ebay or audiogon that he wants to pick them up so they don't get damage in shipping. I talked to two people who compared the RF-7's to the RF-83's and they both prefered the RF-7's because they said the RF-83 are more tamer than the RF-7's so the center presence isn't as "I'm there" or as big (wide) of sound, but that the RF-83's are still very nice sounding speakers. I checked online of a few popular places to get RF-7's and none of them have them either and show they no longer carry it. I did see a refurb. RF-7's pair at the Klipsch Ebay Store.

Well that is why it's to each his or her own, what you like best is all that matters, yep. I prefer the RF7's for my ears and now own two pairs. You probably will like the RF83's as folks that have demo them are already saying they are more tame down than the RF7's, some folks like that and some don't like that at all, end the end it be's all up to you, you are paying for them! For myself, I'm sticking to my RF7's, that's why I got a second pair, lov'em for the awesome sound ya know, but hey..... that doesn't mean I don't like the RF5, darn good Klipsch speaker too, just this dude prefers the RF7's ya know, but I like the sonic sound of it, i like the RF5 sound too, just like the difference in sound on RF7 for these Klips ears. Enjoys your RF5's, you will be happy with them, or enjoy those new RF83's if you get a pair, sure ya gonna love it too, Klipsch always does good with all their speakers ya know, you just picks your choice so to speak, wink....wink... I just think some dudes here think you sound like your putting the RF7's down in favor like the RF5's are better and they just don't see it the way you do, or should I says.....hear it the way you do. Enjoy the sound, Klipsch is great, gotta love'em!!! There is no perfect speaker but sure like how Klipsch speakers make me feel like it is than other speakers! Heck, give me a pair of RF5's and I would enjoy them in my bedroom for both sounds.

Hmmmm, let me guess......... must be UPS at it again!

I'm running McIntosh 400wpc with my Klipsch RF-7's and the sound is incredible. Lots of chaps have told me that their Rotel RB-1080 and RB-1090 Amps sound as good as my setup, so I think Rotel is another way to go too, as long as you make sure it get a min. 200wpc as the RF-7's require that to get the incredible sound. You'll love the RF-7's, great speakers.

Yep, sounds very simular, guess if I got mine posted first, you would be saying the same to tsmalls.

I've never had any clipping with the RF-7, not even before I got a nicer amp for the RF-7's, but a better amp really does make a difference with the RF-7 to really sing at it's best. The slight lack of midrange went completely away when I give it a much better amp and wattage. I was in the hifi store yesterday to check out what new and used equip he's gotten in and we started talking about the Klipsch RF-7 and RF-83, he said that he spent some time listening to them and this is what he thought: He liked the RF-83, sounded nice, smooth, accurate, and pleasing with good bass. He said the horn has been tamed down from not being as in your face as the RF-7 that some may be disappointed in that who prefer it, he said he also found it to be a little less involving than the RF-7's because of that. He said it really reminded him more of the two brands that Klipsch really competes with. He also said that the RF-83 sound a little more narrow than the RF-7, where the RF-7 sound wider, louder. He said folks who want a more tamer sound than the RF-7 will appreciate the RF-83, but the more in your face Klipsch fans may not. He said his choice would be the RF-7 for his taste. I have much of the same taste as he, we usually agree on every thing, so I have the feeling, I'm gonna agree with him. He also said the singer center position sounds more real on the RF-7, more warm/smooth on the RF-83, but lacks the more "I'm There" sound of the RF-7. He also said the RF-83 seems more amp friendly than the RF-7's. He didn't say any thing about ever having clipping problems with the RF-7's. Hmmmm??? Interesting! It will be interesting for me to hear them for myself. I love the "I'm There" feeling I get with the RF-7's and if it's less than that in the RF-83, I'm not going to like that. Well my only complaint with the RF-7's are the cheap plastic feet, and the pegs on the grills break too easy. The binding post are OK, but I much prefer the high quality binding post that are now available on the RF-83, nice to see Klipsch finally upgraded those binding post!

Cor, I can understand some of your concerns but you will be happy to know that Klipsch just released the new Cornwall III, that does have the horn midrange you prefer. I've had a few Heritage speakers but I still prefer the RF-7 overall than any of the Heritage line, but it is a good thing that Klipsch gives you a choice between the two lines for personal prefs. I can't say I'm that crazy about the new looks of the RF-83, not that it's bad in any way, just not what I would call an improvement visual wise from the RF-7 but some here think the new design is just beautiful, again.... a personal pref. thing. As far as the sound goes, I should have reserved judement until I heard for myself to be fair to Klipsch! I'm sure Klipsch has put a lot of hard work into the new line, and taking into mind what the average Klipsch fan would like to see in the new product. So, I'll wait to hear what others think of the new RF-83, and give them a listen for myself when it comes to my area. The real tricky part to that is, if the dealer will have them setup right to really hear what they can do, as most dealers didn't have the RF-7's setup with the right equipment for it to give its best! Just remember, it's best to keep an open-mind before final judement! I have to remind myself of this too, because sometimes it can prove you wrong if you don't! I'm hoping it's as good as Klipsch is saying. Good luck to you, and enjoy!

Very SAD! One of the greatest Klipsch speaker ever made to date is now discontinued! Sure happy I have two pairs now before they got discontinued! Oh happy Day for having the RF-7 in my life, Oh not happy day for my favorite Klipsch speaker being gone-gone! Oh well, one must move on.......... and on...... on....on......