soundog

Is the receiver you are using 5.1 or 6.1? What is the impedance of your speakers? Two pairs will in parallel lower the impedance which might be lower than your amp can handle at high volumes so it shuts off. This message has been edited by soundog on 10-19-2001 at 03:16 PM

What is so remarkable about this letter is that the author is a musician who has spent a good deal of time in high end showrooms around the country looking for the "ultimate" system. He first heard the Khorns from a driveway and thought he was hearing a live band. He was amazed to find that what he was hearing was a pair of "big old speakers" driven by a 30 year old receiver. He asked Stereophile (he's been a reader for a year)" What, kind sirs, is a Klipschorn and why was it the very best stereo system Ive ever heard?" They didn't answer him. However, to Stereophile's credit they recently reviewed Dynaco 70 tube amps very favorably. And I sold all the EICO and Dynakits I made as a teenager many years ago. But always felt I had made a big mistake.

The new Outlaw 950 preamp will cost $899. and be available around Thanksgiving. It has a lot of fascinating new features. Dolby Pro-logic II turns two channel and other material into 5.1 (see www.dolby.com site). 6.1 adds rear sound effects that in some cases are very dramatic; in others it simply adds to the surround effect more or less depending on the source material. JT - I'll forward the email announcement I received yesterday from Outlaw Audio.

With a little black box called a slink-e available at www.nirvis.com.

I think the components in both those years are pretty much the same, but I'm not certain ... what model crossover, tweeters, midrange drivers? I'd keep whatever pair sounded the best, if they sounded the same I'd pick the pair that looked best in my decor, otherwise I'd give the buyer a choice. They sell for anywhere from $1500 to over $2000 per pair on ebay. I got mine after I answered an ad on audioreview.com for a pair of walnut khorns at "$1700" firm .... I offered $1500 and got them ... best purchase of my life.

Solid State would be my choice for Home Theater. Low frequencies are reproduced better by Solid State. It is also more economical and does not require the care and upkeep that tubes do. Tubes shine best with older speaker designs like the Klipsch Heritage series where they provide a warmth and musicality to the mids and highs to which SS often adds a mechanical artificiality. My solution is to use a very good SS receiver (the Outlaw 1050) for my Home Theater videos and DVDs. For music I use a modern upgrade of an old classic Dynaco tube design which also serves as a preamp for my records. I bypass the Outlaw preamp and run it through the Outlaws SS anp section. I get the advantages of tubes for the mids and highs and the advantages of SS for bass oomph. The wattage necessary is a factor of a speakers efficency. Klipsch speakers generally need very little wattage due to their high efficency. This is most true of the older designs like the Heritage series. HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables This message has been edited by soundog on 10-09-2001 at 05:14 PM

LaScalas sound just like Klipschorns (same components) but don't go quite as low, (45 Hz vs. 35 Hz. Have you considered getting any of the Heritage series used from ebay, web classified, etc.They go for about a quarter to a third of what they cost new. You need to find some near you for p/u as they are heavy and cost alot to ship. They last forever, it seems. A nice upgrade is Al K's ALK crossover.

The Perpetual Technologies P1A reduces "jitter" (particularly important when using inexpensive changers), upsamples (increase bandwidth from 44.1K to 96K, convert 16 bits to 24 bits, and processes the sound to "fill in the blanks" so to speak. The result is a much clearer, more detailed, more musical and lifelike sound(less like CDs and more like LPs). The P3A is a high quality DAC (digital to analogue converter). Together they make regular cds sound like super cds. The P1A can also be programmed to correct speaker (frequency / impedance anomalies - I've heard this at the NYC HT show but it is not available for my Klipschorns as yet) and room correction (will adjust for acoustical anomalies through an internet connection, when available). The result is amazing - LP quality sound w/o surface noise. For more information and reviews go to: www.perpetualtechnologies.com - while the two devices with a free fancy power supply upgrade cost about $2000, its far cheaper than replacing my 1200 plus cd collection (most of which are not yet available in super cd format) and buying new super cd changers (when and if available}. The Sony changers are particularly important to me as I run them via a computer interface that scans the cds in them all, downloads titles, artist, tracks, album covers (which can be displayed on my TV monitor) and even some notes and lyrics from the internet. Album titles can then be transferred automatically to the changer's display panel I can then search and find anything on all my cds, set up custom playlists, etc. All at the push of a button! I hope to get my hands on a SACD or DVD audio player to do some A-B comparisons, which I'll report on. I have compared an album I am very familiar with {as my cousin was in the group) I have both the "Blood, Sweat and Tears" LP record, cd (at home) and SACD (at the NYC HT show) and my set-up sounds much better - of course they didn't have Klipschorns, so the comparison is unfair. This message has been edited by soundog on 10-08-2001 at 11:48 AM

I have discovered what I think is a very viable alternate to the new super CDs and that is the use of the Perpetual Technologies P1A Correction Engine and their P3A DAC that turn my large CD collection into super CDs. I am amazed at the result! I have not A-Bed then against any of new high definition CDs but have against their LP counter-parts. Because of the zero surface noise on the CDs, I now prefer them to my LPs. Additionally I can use a computer interface to bring me to any song on any CD in a second as well as develop custom play lists. Im hoping to compare both to the new high definition CDs sometime soon and Ill report back. But after buying CD copies of LPs and now DVD copies of some of my VHS tapes, Im biased towards what I already have. It cost me about $2. per CD to supersize them (I have over 1200 CDs). HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables

I highly recommend the Outlaw 1050 6.1 AV receiver at $499. It is equivalent in quality to $1000 receivers ... available at www.outlawaudio.com HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables This message has been edited by soundog on 10-01-2001 at 07:27 PM

I compared a 3ft run of component vidro cables with 12 foot runs off of my progressive scan DVD player and Monster brand (several grades) with Radio Shack Gokd and could see no difference. I froze several detailed frames, and A-Bed the cables. You mighy try the above suggestion (two joined 12' with onr alone) and compare. I would think the conections would degradw rhe signal but maybe not. A single 20 foot run would probaby be better if you could find or make a set.

LaScalas together as a center channel will have a different impedance than the Klipschorns, I use two sets of Heresy components with one crossover (two horns on top of the monitor; two horns and two woofers on the bottom) To prevent stressing my receiver I wired the woofers in series (raising their impedance) and the mid and tweeter horns in parallel (lowering their impedance. It works well. although I use the center channel and surrounds only for DVDs and Videotapes. The rear 6th channel consists of two LaSxalas in parallel, however. For some reason using just one center crossover with all the components in parallel would overload the amp. Perhaps someone could explain why this is so. I also cut the center and surround channels off at 60Hz and send the lower frequencies to the subs with the .1 LFEs but run the Klipsvhorns full tilt which produces better bass than running all full tilt. HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables

The excellent and highly affordable Outlaw 1050 receiver is designed to convert to a preamp and thus can provide 6.1 sound by itself or in conjunction with the top rated Outlaw 750 amp. See their website www.outlawaudio.com for more details.

Placement can result in increased bass especially when placed in corners. Put the sub in your listening position and walk around the room to find where the bass is the greatest - place the sub there.

Chris- $1099 is a good price for a pair of Klipschorns IF they are in good working order ... a pair in good shape go for $1500-2000. If the cosmetic flaws are acceptable to you, you got a good buy.

Inexpensive accoustical treatments can be obtained from www.partsexpress.com

My experience has been that room acoustics is one of the most important components in any system. The Klipsch Heritage series taught me this in a big way. When I first got a pair of LaScalas I was disappointed to say the least. I had remembered these speakers as fantastic but they seemed harsh and without bass. By simply experimenting with positioning I was able to improve them a great deal. I enjoyed them so much that I decided to go all the way and realize the dream of my youth and get a pair of Khorns, around which I would build my second home theater setup in my basement. They sounded terrible! And there was NO way of repositioning them. (I had already moved a door and reconstructed a wall to get two usable corners!). My dream was a nightmare. So I started studying room acoustics. Reflection, diffusion and absorption among other things. I now have my dream. Cement walls and tile floors (over concrete, I presume) are pure reflection. Add such things as carpeting with padding, drapes, acoustical ceiling panels, etc. to minimize (not eliminate) reflections. Your goal should be to find the optimum combination of reflection, absorption and diffusion. Add diffusion panels at the points of first reflection (where the sound from the speakers first hits the walls could be side or back walls). Reflections off the ceiling and floors can be treated with acoustical ceiling panel and more or less heavy padded carpeting wool rugs I read are best but are expensive and I already bought acrylic (may pickup a wool throw for in front of my speakers maybe a used Persian). Foam panels that combine absorption/ diffusion characteristics are also available as are computer programs that design acoustical environments using different speaker models in varying placements. Ive used trail and error but would love to now run my set-up through a computer model for the fun of it. (Although I always remind myself that the computer designed Lincoln Center Philharmonic (Now Avery Fischer) Hall had to be constantly acoustically modified and has never equaled the pre-computer designed Carnegie Hall. Another problem might be standing bass waves (causes muddy booming bass). Bass corner traps are the answer. I found www.partsexpress.com to have inexpensive foam treatment panels and bass traps. There are many more sophisticated and expensive treatments available. You can also find many DIY projects on the web (including using old egg containers as diffusion panels). It has been a great adventure and great fun. By the way, what I learned from my Heritage experience I then applied to my Klipsch THX system (more equivalent to what you have) with great success. Let me know how you make out and if I can be of any further help let me know. Good luck! HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC (plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix, MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables. (Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold, Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables

Heresys can be used as surrounds or for a center channel with Klipschorns or LaScalas as well as with themselves. HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables

I just received the October issue of Stereophile. Among their "recommended components" under "Loudspeaker Cables" along with all the $1000 + per ft to $20. per foot "big name" cables is an entry called "Radio Shack 18-gauge solid-core hookup wire" at less than 7 cents per foot! HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables

Have you experimented with different placements of your LaScalas - I found that there was a very dramatic diference in their bass output depending on where I placed them (and myself) in the room - corner placement usually results in more bass but can also result in more standing waves and boomyness.

They go for anywhere between $750 and $1500 a pair , on ebay depending on age and condition and whether or not anyone near you is interested ...they are costly to ship. They seperate so they can be moved from concert to concert more easily.

Elliot - I always thought impedance was a measure of resistance and therefore a parallel circuit would offer two paths and therefore half the impedance of two speakers of equal impedance. On the other hand a series circuit would offer only one path thus the impedance value would add producing the results given by Al K.

Woman has a greater sensitivity to high frequency sounds than Males. Thus they like music softer than we do. Turn the volume down (ughh!) and try pointing the speakers directly into the room rather than at the listener. You can also turn down the treble control (ughh!) High frequency harshness can also be reduced by absorption heavy curtains, overstuffed furniture, heavy carpeting, acoustic tiles and by diffusion panels (usually work best at the point of first reflection). Horns produce highs with a lot of clarity including the metallic clarity of CDs and solid-state amplification. HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables

I have an SW-II, that I switch on when watching movies with my THX system. If your mains have as good bass as you say, Id leave them set to large. Id set my center and surrounds (assuming they are smaller, to small). If you can, cut off at around 60- 80 Hz., above that gets directional. If yourre managing the bass at the receiver you can turn the bass control above that setting on the sub or just open it full. Play with the variable phasing to get the best bass at your seating position (have someone slowly vary it while listening to deep bass). The SWII produces good sound effects and is fairly good musically. You may or may not wish to shut it off when listening to music in stereo. There is no right answer to - this moving the sub around will produce different results (corners usually boost base; some rooms have standing wave acoustical problems which require treatment, etc). Experiment, experiment, experiment with placement and settings until you get what is best (which may be different for movies and music). Good luck! HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-240 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables

I have LaScalas that have bass, actually very very good clear, natural sounding bass. I had to experiment with placement to achieve this . They do cut off at 45 Hz however, and I prefer my Khorns which go down to 35. Both produce some of the most realistic bass I have ever heard. I use a Dynaco tube pre-amp with the solid state amp section of my receiver. The Dynaco mellows the mids and highs and while I have no experience with tube amps, I have heard that some dont do as well on bass as solid state. Im happy. HT-1 Klipsch Heritage System (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-240 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface Nirvis jukebox software (downloads net cd info, album covers& lyrics- programs & controls changers searchable for songs, artists, albums). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Cables: Onix , MSB, Monster, AR., Iced Purple, RS Gold Monster Bi-wire speaker cables.(Khorns) HT#2 Klipsch THX System (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver (Dynaco inputs directly to amp section) Monster 3000 Power Center Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold , Monster, Iced Purple, AR Cables