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Nice, Youth! Looks amazing even before the AT screen to come. What about porting the three La Scalas? Would raise them just a bit and get a little more bass out of for the HT. Then get four Heresys and you will have 7.1!

Thanks Richard, and everyone else too!! Happy birthday to Twisted and Tas . . . welcome to AARP discount qualification! No offense fellows, but a special happy birthday to Craig. I am sitting here listening to some 70s vinyl on my walnut encased 1964 Scott 299C purchased from Mike Frazier a year ago, on a pair of K-horns . . . ah, but, of course, the Scott was first rehabbed by the birthday boy, Craig, and his tube magic before being secured from Mike . . . Party favors all around! Life never sounded so good!

False alarm, false alarm! For me, anyway. I saw "(Midtown)" and jumped to the conclusion it was Atlanta! (midtown) is one of the Atlanta listing titles too. But It is Sacramento. Shoot! I just saw what I wanted to see. Would be cost prohibitive with shipping to GA. But, I think someone in central Cali could perhaps negotiate on an RSW15 that is indeed cherry.

I like the on in the second link. Not too far from me.Will see if I can connect up with the guy. Thanks for the help!

Hoping it takes months for you to sell the 83s . . . Then I will sneak into Florida, pick up that inevitable RSW15 which will show up there, and sneak back into America, you know, Georgia! ;-)

Wow . . . how thoughtful? maybe not. ;-)

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+1 on the caps . . . rebuilding a crossover is NOT what I would recommend first, nor buying all new crossovers. Bob Crites sells a solid kit for for simply replacing the crossover caps . . . not hard at all. I have yet to run into a functioning vintage Heritage speaker that REQUIRED out of the gate an entire crossover rebuild . . . but most of mine just needed new caps and I was off to the races. Since they are new to you, I recommend to only replace the caps to renew the crossover, and then listen to them for a while before putting new crossovers in. You need to know what you are not hearing before deciding major tweaks. After simple cap replacement, I found myself quite content with both pair of Heresys, as well as my K-horns, et. al. Learn first. The most bang for the buck (+ or - around $50 for a pair of Heresys) until you want to to do major tweaks, is bring them back into original specs with a simple cap refresh . . . How do they sound now? If they are working well, a simple caps refresh will position you to hear them back into stock and back within spec. Can you take the back off of one and snap a pic and post it? Even good looking old caps degrade. The first thing I always do when buying older speakers is to look at the caps to make sure one is not leaking. And, if they are old, I change them out anyway since I plan to keep them and listen to them for years. There are so many knowledgeable forum members who will help.

Audyssey proved outstanding with my 7.1 Reference setup. But when I moved to an 11 channel Heritage setup . . . Ran Audyssey over and over ad naseum. But finally went to an SPL meter to achieve sonic bliss.

Ahhh! Billy dropped into the deep end fast...Bruce Yes, my friend, Bruce . . . I did, following you into the Heritage pool! ;-) Someone should tell Youthman to bring his "swimmies" . . . mine are now tractor tire inner tubes!

I think this one is what worries me the most. Haha I have a local gentleman who said he is ready to come today to buy my 83's / 64. He has the RF-3 currently and keeps asking me when he can come pick them up. All he's waiting for is the green light from me. I wouldn't sell both the RF-7 and the RF-83....it would be one or the other. I would keep the RC-64ii regardless of which pair I sold. My son loves the black RF-7's for their sound and also because they match his room better (black cabinet and TV). He loves the RF-83's but they don't match his room and since when he moves out, he will get to keep them, he would rather have the RF-7's so I will likely sell the RF-83 / RC-64.....just gotta be brave and make a final decision. I guess what makes it the most difficult is t's just hard letting go of speakers you have had practically throughout my entire Klipsch journey. Yup . . . the problem, Bro, is not going to an all Hertage HT, it is separation anxiety from you beloved Klipsch babies, setting them free to find their own way out into a crazy sound world! The first vintage Klipsch I ever had was a best up, but sonically perfected, pair of KG2s. Never was able to let go, even after three Heritage setups in the house, until the wife said, "You cannot buy another speaker until that badly painted black pair of KG2s leaves the premises! I refuse to be the target of a special episode of 'Horders' focused on Klipsch speakers!" BTW . . . check out the Denon 4520 (or it's nearly identical predecessor the 4311). I use the 4311 in my 11 channel a heritage HT, and run my K-horn fronts on a separate amp from the preouts . . . Not only is the sound amazing, but the audio and video processing shines. I am also an Airplay nut . . . seamless. More bells and whistles than I can even remotely understand. Does more than I could ever imagine. Now, back to letting some beloved speakers go . . . to make room in the stable . . . let your lovely wife decide . . . that will take all of 5 seconds! ;-)

A center Belle might work better for you than a third La Scala. Just sayin' one more time through boatload of posts on this thread! . ;-)

Lol I left Charleston at 7:30 am and am just getting settlted in my room in Carlisle PA and this thing grew like 5 pages!!!!! Youth we'll get something worked out between us/Michael. There is a delivery possibility as I have a meeting in Clearwater mid May. I was going to drive my SS Convertible but could possibly drive my pickup. I have one of those Bakflip covers so I need to see if it will close with the speaker in there. I had to wait for stable weather and remove it to get the Palladiums home from Vero. Talk about 7 hours of nervous....... iThose darn Palladiums are almost not worth the hassle! ;-)

Tempting, but it's not for sale. Thanks everyone. Bruce Congrats, Bruce . . . Sorry I was not paying attention and let these slip out from under me! Somebody got great speakers you cared well for.

Holy Heritage, Batman . . . I mean Youthman . . . Depth of a center La Scala an issue? Let us not forget the beautiful and sonically matched and measurably less deep possibility of a center Belle! A center Belle will save 5 3/4" in speaker depth in your center. In both my setups, I employ a center Belle . . . one between La Scala fronts in the home office, and one between K-horns in the HT (along with side Belles and rear La Scalas, not to forget the four Herseys for wides and heights). Long live the center the center Belle! I recommend keeping it on your possibility radar. ;-)

It's Florida, man . . . just wait five minutes and there will more La Scalas, Belles, K-horns, etc., for sale! All of the best pre-owned Heritage sales come up in Florida!

I had about 30 minutes before work this morning and decided to do some quick A/B Comparison using a scene from The Book of Eli where they destroy the house. I've always been impressed with the detail of this scene and was curious how the LaScalas compared. From this first initial test, to my ears, the LaScalas were much brighter and more detailed than the 83's. Dialog also was more prominent. I did not use an SPL meter to make sure both A/B were at the same volume but probably will do that during my next test to try and make it as fair of a comparison as possible. Honestly, I'm very impressed with the sound of the LaScalas. Did Youthman just say that out loud? I never would have thought I would have uttered those words. I even did a very quick A/B using the 83's as mains and switching between a single LaScala for a center and the RC-64. Again, the LaScala seemed to be more pronounced and detailed than the RC-64. Again, not a totally fair comparison since the RC-64 is 8ft in the air angled downwards towards the listening area while the LaScala is on the floor straight in front of me. I'll likely have to bring the RC-64 down and place it on top of the LaScala to get a more fair comparison as well as level match them. Bro, your back is going to need a chiropractor or a moving company soon . . . they both cost about the same!

"even the Quartet" . . . very interesting and clarifying. So then, everything before the KG2 and KG4 are Heritage, and of course II and III versions of all pre-KGs are Heritage too. As a relative novice, I always wondered what the "truth" was . . . thanks all for bouncing the subject around getting the info and posting it, especially for us new to The Heritage line.

Budman's deep into Heritage too . . . he is practically all walnut and cherry with his. (In his signature above.). Great guy!

Just curious why I would want to do that and mess up their beautiful finish? The would be placed behind a false wall so they wouldn't need to match the black color scheme.Budman has become a Klipsch Heritage Goth . . . He is trying to proselytize. ;-)

I sincerely appreciate it . . . but to far for me. Want to audition and not trust shipping. That $200 in Phoenix is going to work for somebody closer to Phoenix on the forum.

First, everything good is down in FL first.Going to be a while for me dor a reasonable driving distance. I never buy before auditioning, especially off of CL. Bet you find one before I do! ;-)

Looking to buy a Klipsch RSW15 sub . . . to purchase and pick up within reasonable driving distance from Atlanta. (Do not want to risk it in shipping). On the hunt! I need a second sub . . . it is simply time. Thanks.

Thanks, Dean, for the clarification. I think old caps are pretty cool too and why I kept them after replacing them. They sit on a shallow pan above my shop workbench and are a great conversation piece. Since they were not leaking, just did not want to throw them away, and will dispose of them safely when the time comes. One question. I have heard when they are 20+ years old (mine were all between 32-38 years old) that they simply lose capacitance over a 20+ year period. True or myth? It's true. Capacitance begins to drift with age because of dielectric breakdown. What surprising though is that it often doesn't drift as much as we would expect. The thing that suffers most is the resistive element. The ESR begins to climb, and power which is supposed to go to the drivers is now turned into heat. This is why the speakers get brighter after the capacitors are replaced. Those old capacitors will cause the sound to be a little grungy too. Thanks, Dean . . . "a little grungy" is exactly what I was hearing before I changed the 36-year-old caps. Listenable sure, but a little grungy before the cap change, crystal clear after. I appreciate the description to what I was hearing! I would never have known what I was missing before I changed caps, because the '76 La Scalas were not only the first Heritage I ever bought, but the first I ever heard once I plugged them up.

Thanks, Dean, for the clarification. I think old caps are pretty cool too and why I kept them after replacing them. They sit on a shallow pan above my shop workbench and are a great conversation piece. Since they were not leaking, just did not want to throw them away, and will dispose of them safely when the time comes. One question. I have heard when they are 20+ years old (mine were all between 32-38 years old) that they simply lose capacitance over a 20+ year period. True or myth?