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Have to stop myself on the player... Decent price!

How much on these and what color?

Pretty funny how I've gone 180 since starting this thread! No kidding. After doing acoustical work on my room (and way too much time and study) and removing my side speakers (figured this out recently they were impacting my stereo image as my room is too narrow), I will never play stereo in multi-channel again. I have a stereo image that completely wraps around me. I am literally there, and can hear height, depth and panning perfectly with just two speakers. Anyone would be floored by what I'm hearing. My system is very different from when I started this thread, but I attribute 60% of the improvement to my now acoustically dead room (20 or more panels in a small room). It took a lot of acoustic panels to get where I'm at, Dirac, and only having a single seat in the center of my room, calibrating for just one seat while 3 seats are in back now, etc... I will agree that for everyone to enjoy stereo, multi-channel stereo is the best way to go. But if you want a setup that sounds like a $1 million dollar system (for much much less), you need lots of room treatments, room eq'd to only one center seat, mains crossed to some nice dual subs (crossed to 80Hz or even higher) basically all the stuff some folks say not to do. Any of you should look me up if you are ever in SC. I promise you hearing is believing. I have never heard imaging like what I'm getting on my setup now days. It is truly unbelievable.

That's what I was getting at too, although Craigslist people are even more frugal than the nice (and cheap) folks here It's 100% OK though. I'm not rich either, and wouldn't be so cheap if I was. that tendency is also present here at times

Not really a deal. Had my RF-83's posted here for 850 (and couldn't sell them to you guys!), and only cleared 500 on the center. People are cheap, especially Craigslist people.

NOW $425! Less than 2 years old, so 2 months of warranty left (I cannot honor warranty but will provide the invoice if you have any issues, bought from an authorized dealer, but I cannot promise warranty is transferable). Shipped from Columbia, SC buyer pays all shipping costs. See more pics on my Craigslist ad as it's too much of a pain to resize all my pictures for here: http://columbia.craigslist.org/ele/5382703171.html This thing is awesome, just no where to mount it on my new chairs that have an open bottom with tall wood legs. I could modify the chairs and mount it upside down, but then my chairs would not be aesthetically pleasing to my wife (as bottom is open you'd see the transducer). These would be fabulous mounted to a sofa or a recliner which normally has an enclosed base. My last recliner set was leather and I modified it using a 2x6 screwed on the inside part of the wood frame, then bolted this to it. It shot the stuff out of me when watching movies, totally awesome! There's even a mounting plate so you don't have to modify your sofa. It goes under one leg. I believe this requires you to remove a sofa leg (most unscrew), but I'm not sure as I never opened this part of the kit! The 400W/1500Watt transducer (aka shaker) goes down to 5 Hz! It takes a serious amp to go down that low, and the one included is nearly 30 lbs and has a toroidal transformer too. These are the heaviest and best Buttkickers (Butt Kickers) available too (little ones do NOT go down to 5 Hz). Would also be great for a studio or drummers chair (similar to a Pearle Drum Throne Thumper). I'm included all the original accessories, this kit sells for $699.95 + shipping (click add to card on Buttkicker's site). The kit weighs 45 lbs, and all packaging is included and they really are in like new condition. It is even double boxed. http://www.thebuttkicker.com/lfe-kit The ButtKicker low frequency transducer accurately reproduces bass and special effects from the subwoofer and .1 LFE sound tracks. The ButtKicker "shakes" your couch or home theater seating precisely in sync with your movie, music or game. Now you can enjoy powerful bass, realistic special effects and concert quality music without disturbing the neighbors or waking the kids. The kit includes all the cables and wires needed to connect the ButtKicker to your home theater and gaming systems. The Kit Includes: 1 BK-LFE, 1 BKA-1000-N, 1 BK-CMAK and wiring kit. Product Specifications ButtKicker® LFE Transducer Dimensions: 5.375" H x 5.375" W Frequency Response: 5 - 200 Hz Weight: 11 lbs / 5 kgs Nominal Impedance: 4 ohms Power Handling: 400 watts min. BKA1000-N Power Amplifier Specs Dimensions: 12" W x 12" L x 4" H Weight: 25 lbs / 11.4 kgs Power Handling: 1000 watts @ 4 ohms 1900 watts @ 2 ohms

PS: the $2150 price is cash only. Would never ship it or cover paypal fees for that, sorry I have plenty of storage space.

Ok, I have this posted on craigslist for $2150! Someone should drive here and get it. Also have a less than two year old pair of ButtKicker LFE kits (the nice ones that retail for $699). Selling them for $450.

Why can't studios focus on making CD's sound like they should rather than releasing stuff on inferior media like vinyl and tape? I really don't get it. I sold a record player I picked up for $14 from a garage sale for $325 on craigslist! I had several hipsters wanting it too and I'm in SC of all places?!? I played a few records on a cheap system I have for sale, and it sounded good, then I hooked my CD player and it sounded very good! I want dynamic range and a low noise floor and real digital recordings that aren't some inferior analog copies mastered into a digital download.

Yes! Getting my waterfall plot to look like this hands down was worth every hour and every penny spent. Yes, I went to great extremes to get this performance and dozens and dozens of iterations of measurements (including replacing my chairs), but it really made my bass feel and sound very very accurate. I would put my dual SVS PB13 ultra subs against anyone's system whether it's a horn loaded sub or not. I don't care if a sub can go below 10 Hz or for a horn sub that it has less IMD. For me, and I suspect most folks if they heard it, acoustics matter far more. I went through many nice setups (RF-83, La Scala II's, and Palladium system) and never achieved what I wanted until my ETC/impulse response and the water fall plot below looked close to ideal. My current Palladium setup sounds many times better than what I had previously, but I have to honestly say that 50% or more of the improvement is due to all the hours I spent listening and studying what Dr. Who and ChrisA had told me to study wrt room acoustics. For the low freq, it could be argued that 80% is room treatments, but I do agree you need the output available to pressurize whatever size room you are in. My room is on the small side, so dual SVS subs work great for me. I also get single digit THD if you believe REW's THD measurement (I tried two calibrated USB mics so far). If my room was larger, I might look into these horn loaded subs or 18" direct radiators, but the reality is, it would cost a lot of money and time to treat a bigger room. No doubt if I remove my bass traps and treatments, horn loaded subs would sound like crap to me as any DR sub did before. Just being honest here. I'll take my treated room any day over some of the rooms I see with little to no bass traps and a single horn loaded sub (yes I'm a firm believer in having at least two subs also). Horn loaded subs would require a bigger room for me so I'd have to buy more bass traps, plus I'd need two to be happy with room modes, etc... Impulse response is generally better with the direct radiating systems - especially sealed cabinets. This is because the frequency response is flatter (freuqency response and impulse response are really two views of the same thing). With enough radiating surface area you can achieve the same (or better) modulation distortion with a direct radiator. It's really hard to get a horn to have the same transparency at low levels (with all the folds and reflections and resonances along the way). I'd suggest the hardest part about low frequency performance in a small room is the room acoustics. The dual zoned bass array is not only the best performing solution to that problem, but it's also the least invasive. Acoustic treatment takes up way more space and costs a lot more. What you're gaining with direct radiating drivers is that the cabinet can be way smaller for the same low frequency extension. Sure, you gotta throw some power at it, but amplifier power is cheap and is not a directly audible parameter. You need several acoustic sources to achieve the results of a dual zoned bass array anyway. It's simply easier to accomplish with several smaller cabinets. No way I'm going to fit 8 bass horns in one small room - let alone have the flexibility to place them in the ideal location. Small cabinets are easy to place properly, and then there's the benefit of each one increasing the total radiating area. Eight 15" drivers is equivalent to a single 15" horn with an 8:1 compression ratio....and that 8:1 compression ratio horn is gonna need to be really long to reach down to 20Hz. The numbers over at data-bass.com indicate that the direct radiating systems can certainly keep up with the horns....especially if you keep the total solution size as the constant variable.

I did, but feel free to give the ad a bump. I already got a warning bumping over there, so I don't do it anymore http://www.avsforum.com/forum/209-audio-gear/2260274-ati-at2007-7-channel-multichannel-fully-differential-amp-2300-a.html

Ok, I lowered the price $50! However, if you drove to my home and paid in cash like Kenny did on the other stuff, I can truly make you a killer deal as I don't want to ship this thing and have enough amps. I'm not needing money or anything and have no problems keeping this fine amp, so the local deal still needs to be reasonable and should be discussed through a PM only if you are serious about driving to Irmo, SC. I can also let you hear an awesome Palladium setup for free This unit is truly mint and includes the original invoice, all packaging, and was really purchased in 2013, etc... I could even provide you the serial number via a PM provided you don't share it, and then you could call ATI directly to verify purchase date, warranty left, that I really own it, etc...

Pretty cool we had the same record player too! I'm still enjoying the speakers you sold me. You should check them out sometime in their new habitat: I'd be really curious to hear what you think after hearing them on monoblocks. It's a really nice turntable, I just find I never use it as digital music files are so convenient versus records and CDs. No sense in keeping stuff I haven't used in four years! I am giving him a lot of records too. These pioneer turntables keep going up in price, not sure why... I would list it. Seems not so good condition units have sold for over $300 on ebay.

SOLD LOCALLY FOR ASKING PRICE I'm surprised no one jumped at this. It's a really nice turntable and sounds fantastic.

Sorry, misread the post! I think it'll still do a decent job. I used my AVR for my RF-83's which were pretty demanding and it sounded OK. Granted, I heard a difference when I switched to a separate amp. If Emotiva says they are 150 watts, I bet this means with both channels driven at full bandwidth. I'd rather have too much power, but if I was on a constrained budget, I'd be very happy with an XPA-200. He doesn't have an XPA-2, he has an XPA-200. Not nearly as powerful as the XPA-2. Personally I think it will be ample to power them, not nearly powerful to overwhelm yourself with sound though.

If you are reading this, you know what this is. The kit is pictured below. It includes a calibrated preamp, mic, stand, lots of cables and adapters, CD, etc... It is the latest Audyssey Pro kit, so you can download MultiEQ Version 4 for free. Note there is an older version of this kit before Audyssey started making their own mics. As pictured, my Audyssey Pro kit provides the newer style US made and calibrated mic, pre-amp, necessary cables, Samson mic stand, etc... It was bought brand new by me from a distributor in early 2014/late 2013. However, the serial cable that came with it was buggy under Windows 7. I'm providing a replacement cable that includes a gender changer. I will look for the original cable to include also, but I may have tossed it. I'll also change my installer account from my name to your individual or business name. I can ship it in the original double box. PM me and we can work on shipping. I can't promise free shipping to anywhere in the US as I'm not Amazon, but I can give you a decent deal on a like new Audyssey Pro kit I've just used for my personal use. The only reason I'm selling is I sold my preamp and use Dirac now. Dirac really doesn't do as nice of a job handling dual subs. If you have a processor that handles Sub EQ HT, this kit can make dual subs sound fantastic. This kit also relies on your PC to find optimum crossover points, and it honestly did a better job than just stock Audyssey for my low end.

The two RT-12d's were very very nice with Audyssey Sub EQ HT. I was highly impressed with them! Too bad Klipsch quit making them. They were a very unique design. I gave Kenny a great deal on them as he also bought my preamp and chairs. Need to sell the Audyssey pro kit now though!

I think an XPA-2 will be a decent amp with RF-7's. You are miles ahead from just using an AVR, although I don't know if the RF-7's had the nasty impedance swings like my RF-83's had. I recently bought some used Emotiva stuff (ebay and audiogon) and have been very impressed with it. I have no doubt that amp is conservatively rated. I also think that's a decent price if the RF-7's are in good condition. I think I sold my RF-82's for $400. I personally would pay the extra $100-150 to get RF-7's if they're in good shape. The RF-82's are nice speakers for the money too, but I wouldn't pay more than $380 for them to be honest. RF-7's will be made in Hope versus China too.

Ok, preamp is sold. I'm going to repost the Audyssey pro kit separately. I can ship the pro kit double boxed for $450 to an east coast address.

Never mind... sold them to Kenny with the chairs. He's got a heck of a setup for a great price!

Thanks! You know you want to make the drive I can take off some to cover your gas if you buy these and one of my other items...

https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/161103-1850-two-klipsch-rt-12d-subs-in-excellent-condition-sc/

Be sure to check my ad here. I just posted two RT-12d's!

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Local pickup only near Columbia, SC, cash only. These were the last of the decent reference series subs (IMHO)! I bought one from a dealer as A stock, and the other from a dealer on ebay as used but it appears to be A stock as far as I know. Both look great except for the one has some small surface scratches that are only visible in direct sunlight. The scratches on the one do not penetrate the wood or anything. Two of these in opposite corners will squash any room modes and give you an experience equivalent to $5000 or more worth of subs (no BS at all)! Originally these were ~$2400 each MSRP and weigh ~80 lbs each! They also perform very well with single digit THD! I'm only selling these as I don't have corners free in my cramped theater. One mic that came with the unit I bought new is included. If it helps the deal I can get the box out of the attic for the one that I bought new. Let's make a local pickup combo deal! Also selling the following: Marantz AV8801 Preamp/Processor ATI AT2007 7 channel amp Pioneer PL-530 turntable plus free records ECM8000 mic M-Audio mic preamp Yamaha RX-V1300 and some other stuff including bedroom furniture so bring a trailer SPECS: Cabinet configuration ideal for corner placement Three extremely high-output long-throw woofers (Klipsch really means this) BASH digital hybrid amplification Perfect bass at the touch of a button IR sensor for use with select learning remotes Featuring a triangular-shaped small footprint design the RT-12d employs three ultra high-output 12-inch Cerametallic drivers (one front-firing woofer two rear-firing passive radiators) and a potent 800-watt RMS amplifier. Fitting nicely into a corner the RT-12d's unique enclosure style allows the passive radiators to face both walls of the corner for maximum output. Through proprietary DCS technology this subwoofer gives you more control and flexibility with different source material. The DCS digital user-interface offers quick and easy adjustment of all functions including three equalization modes (flat depth and punch) and five user-adjustable presets (music movie night and two name-your-own settings) to create specific listening preferences. By utilizing a patent-pending Adaptive Room Correction (ARC) process and the included calibration microphone the RT-12d ensures ideal performance in every listening area at the touch of a button. It also comes with an IR sensor for operation with select learning remotes or control systems. Meticulously crafted in a cherry or black ash wood veneer finish the RT-12d has an elegance and style that perfectly anchors your home theater or two-channel stereo music system. ENCLOSURE TYPE Bass-reflex via dual rear-firing passive radiators ACTIVE DRIVERS Ultra-high-excursion 12" (30.5cm) Cerametallic cone, front-firing woofer PASSIVE DRIVERS Dual ultra-high-excursion 12" (30.5cm) Cerametallic cone, rear-firing passive radiators AMPLIFIER TYPE BASH Digital hybrid AMPLIFIER POWER FTC Rated Power: 800 watts continuous @ <2% THD/Dynamic Power* 2000 watts BANDWIDTH 19–120Hz ± –3dB MAXIMUM OUTPUT 120dB @ 30Hz 1/8 space, 1m CONTROLS DCS control and feature set with 5 system presets and ARC Adaptive Room Correction INPUTS L/R Line-level RCA jacks, calabration microphone USB 2.0 OUTPUTS L/R Line-level RCA jacks (passthru) FINISHES Cherry or Black Ash wood veneer WEIGHT 71 lbs. (32.2kg) HEIGHT 18.75" (47.6cm) WIDTH 24" (61cm) DEPTH 21.75" (55.2cm)