Mr. Blorry

Boa- Are you leaving us forever? Say it ain't so! This message has been edited by Mr. Blorry on 11-18-2001 at 03:34 PM

Sheb- I wasn't criticizing your setup by making the "live" comment; we all have to adapt to our surroundings, but I'm guessing it's unpleasant when it's loud. I'm also surprised that you have 30s in an apartment! I had to move out of my apartment when I had my KLF 20s! The bass coupling with the floor when I used the spikes was murder on my neighbors. I found a little house, and then upgraded to 30s! I'm thinking the "deader" you can make that apt, the better the 30s are gonna sound. If your neighbors are young, they'll get used to it--if they're old fossils like mine were, they call the cops every ten minutes cause they can't hear their favorite Matlock and Golden Girls episodes over that dad-blamed racket, and their beddy-bye time is 8 pm. When I get old and feeble, my hearing will most likely be shot, and I'm gonna have like 80 K-Horns in my house, and I'm gonna crank every blues disc known to man. This message has been edited by Mr. Blorry on 11-18-2001 at 03:24 PM

K-Horns in the back, and Cornwalls in the dash. Heritage RULES!

The big thing I want to know is how long home-burned CDs will last! Is the media that is used for home-made CDs as durable as the factory burned ones? I remember in the old days of laser discs (circa 1980) there was a noticeable degradation in quality of the big old discs over time. I know modern factory CDs are far better than they used to be, but I wonder about ho-made stuff. Anyone comment on that?

If you're new to the world of Klipsch, they put forth an edict saying that they would no longer honor the warranty of any of their gear sold through an e-tailer, unless said 'tailer was able to hand deliver said speakers to your home address. When I was shopping for my KLF-C7, I found it at an e-tail shoppe for about $150 less (this includes new gear sold over ebay as well). I opted to buy it at my local "brick and mortar" shoppe where the five-year warranty will be completely honored.

Is that room acoustically live, or WHAT!

I agree with Boa in that hiss is usually not a big deal. Klipsch horns are so efficient that it is rare to not hear at least a small amount of hiss, especially if the amp is cranked while at idle. As far as having your computer connected to the stereo, my best advice is live with it. Computers are designed to be, well, computers, and not a piece of high-end stereo gear! Even if you are using one of the new high dollar soundblaster cards, that hiss could be coming from one of the many components inside yer PC, most notably your hard drive. I have the very same setup--Soundblaster Live hooked to my stereo so I can play my mp3s, and when my gear is idling, I get hiss from my computer. Try this test: move your mouse around while your amp is cranked with nothing playing. See if you don't hear a weird warbling sound! Of course, a great deal of modern music and mastering techniques use computers these days (such as the software you're using), but they are studio-grade computers, specifically designed for that purpose, and are undoubtedly very expensive. I doubt if the hissing would be solved with a new amp. If you are using a cheapo sound card, getting a soundblaster live is a very economical upgrade!

AVman They used to call me AVguy when I was in the A/V bidness! It's been a while though, and now I'm in this crazy computer field. Right now, I'm pushing everything with a Denon 1801. It has a LFE out which I have never used. So much newer music and remastered stuff (not to mention modern movies on DVD) has such a strong bottom end that I'm worried about damaging my woofers. I have never heard audible distortion, as I do know when I'm about to clip the amp, but I know I'm getting wicked excursion; hence the desire to have a device better able to handle those frequencies. Am I being too paranoid? I'd hate to blow a woofer! This message has been edited by Mr. Blorry on 11-11-2001 at 09:26 PM

Mr. Blasing- It's not Matsushita, it's PANASONIK!

That's a good start, but then we'd have to gather up some of that Bose Acoustimass wreckage to replace it. That worthless crap is so expensive, our bottom line would dearly suffer! Convincing Toots that she needs to shell out $1500 for the switcheroo ain't gonna work, I don't think. What else could we try?

Thanks! Got another question. That VTF-2 looks like a great value, but I have this weird belief that my subwoofer driver should be of equal or greater diameter as my other speakers. Is this faulty logic? I have two KLF-30s and two Heresys, so I have a total of six twelve inch woofers in my room. This sub is a mere ten inches. Ideally, shouldn't I have a fifteen or eighteen inch sub to properly compliment my other speakers? In other words, aren't larger diameter drivers better able to reproduce lower frequencies, or is it more a matter of amplifiers and enclosures?

Hey! Where can I find out more about HSU? Do they have a website? Local dealers and stuff?

BigBusa- I like your idea! I agree with Mike in that if the owner knows you're hungry for something they have, they'll hold out for top dollar. "Retro" is so fashionable these days, most folks know aging technology is increasing in value, so we're kinda stuck. However, there must be a clever way of wording the message so that the seller won't be tipped off. You live in Albany, huh? Well, I live in Rochester. Between the two of us, maybe we can scour the entire state for K bargains! I found a sweet pair of 1977 Heresys over here--would love to find a pair of K-Horns and/or Cornwalls as well.

Hello everyone. I am in the market for a subwoofer for my rig, and I wanted to hear what would be an affordable compliment to KLF-30s. I bet the new reference series SWs are killer, but that is WAY beyond my budget, as I'm sure Velodynes are as well. I am using Heresys as surrounds, and a C-7 center. I would love to keep the cost below $500. In a better economy, I would love to upgrade, but I am in a pinch to say the least. Suggestions?

Thanks for all the input. It's been over a month now, and I haven't heard the sound return. It must have been static electricity, because I can't possibly begin to replicate the problem! It's either that, or those nasty little gremlins that live inside my speakers have finally moved.

I must agree with DD. That was spectacular, Ray. We need to box that up and place it somewhere on this site under the heading "Stereo Stuff 101"

I agree with Mr. Drake. Nicely said.

JJT- Proud to be your neighbor. They messed with the wrong country.

I also have a Denon DVD-1000, but the main reason I chose it over any Sony is that Sonys DO NOT read burned CDs, of which I have zillions. Naturally, I wish I had waited for the progressive scan and the DVD-Audio, but I'm partly glad I got this one. This model was noted for having a lip sync problem, and I read through audioreview.com that Denon had a fix! Cool beans, I said, and whisked my machine off to the store for repair. They told me it would take two weeks. Ack. Oh, well, they loaned me a cheapo Sony, so it was OK. THREE MONTHS later, I get the Denon back. It works perfectly now, no lip sync problems, but sheesh! Three months? Well, who knows if they've resolved the problem company wide, and if there are any new ones coming out with that problem, but my unit works great. I have even purchased a few DVD- Audio discs that can play on regular dvd players, simply because of the painstaking remastering of some classic albums. Even without the ability to play the dvd-a track, the sound quality is vastly superior to a regular cd. Aside from playing burned cds (I have no regular CD player, except from my computer), Denon's audio expertise comes through in their dvd machines, and I think it is superior to the audio on Sony machines.

Ross- FedEx, eh? I just watched the Tom Hanks movie Cast Away. Makes me a little leary of them! I know how much we all hate UPS, but if NASCAR driver Dale Jarrett would start driving the truck like everyone wants him to, we could get our packages in no time! Course, they may be a little , but they'd get there FAST!

Amen, John. I just wish I would have thought of it first. Monster Cable saw a niche and went for it. A bit of clever marketing, and they're selling their products at 1000 per cent markup! Not only that, but they can't keep them on the shelves! Kinda like the current SUV craze too. PT Barnum was right...

After reading this thread, I decided to open up my 1977 Heresys, which I hadn't done, and I've owned them for over a month! That's like buying a car and never looking under the hood, right? Well, the suspense was killing me, even though they're absolutely pristine speakers, and I think mine were the first eyes to behold them since they left Hope. (Only opened one; they're three digits apart in serial numbers, so I'm guessing they're identical, plus the fact that the other will be a big pain in the butt to lower from it's perch high above the listening area) I have the K-22-ef woofer! Also the K-55 squawk, and the K-77 tweet--sound about right for late seventies Heresys? These things are so pristine, it's like the owner never did anything other than dust them! There's nothing wrong with them as of now, but ya never know when the driver or cone will decide to go south, so I may be in the market for a k-22-ef, but I hope not. These guys are brassy and bold, but they're perfect as full-range surrounds, and I love 'em!

Sorry it's taken so long to respond, but I haven't heard the crackly sound since!?! If you guys think it was from the interconnects, what was it I heard? Static discharge or crappy connection? I'm using high dollar Monster interconnects between my DVD player and the receiver and the TV, but I haven't heard any noise since that fateful night (Murphy's law will undoubtedly rear its ugly head on this one, though)

A break-in period for speakers is a myth, IMHO. I had a pair of brand new KLF 30s that had minor cosmetic damage. Rather than give me a partial refund, my friendly K dealer decided to replace them entirely. I marked their locations on the carpet, then took the old ones back to the store. Put the new ones in the exact same place. The old ones had roughly 100-200 hours on them, and the new ones sounded exactly the same. You also need not worry about babying them while they're new either; the biggest enemy of any speaker is distortion, so push 'em as hard as ya want, just don't clip the amplifier! Rock on.

I had a worrisome night last night when I thought I heard the tweeter in one of my 30s going south! The best way I can describe the sound coming from the tweeter was the sound made when you try to pull to garmets apart that have just come out of the dryer--the sound of static electricity, that kind of crackley poppy sound. At first I thought it was the disc or the dvd player itself, but then I heard it again listening to regular program material from the television. I hope I didn't invalidate the warranty, but I carefully removed the midrange, only to find the sound was indeed from the tweeter. I could tap on it, and the sound would go away, only to return a few seconds later. Arrgh. Replaced the mid, took out the tweeter. Nothing appeared to be amiss, but I disconnected the wires and reconnected. Listened to it for a while with the speaker flat on its back, and never heard the noise return. Reinstalled the tweeter, stood her back up, and listened to the source material that originally caused the noise, the TV, tons of stuff, and the sound never returned. I have now replaced the grille cloth hoping it was just the speaker troll giving me a hard time. Haven't heard anything since, and the tweeter is operating wonderfully. Anyone else notice this kind of sound from a tweeter? Was it fatal? These things are so new, and I'm scared!