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Tbrennan, I should take you up on that offer. I remember that you did PM me when I was shopping for Klipsch on this board (found them too - gotta love this board). I am three hours or less from the Chicago area, and would like to make it up for one of these. Post it here the next time it happens - it certainly sounds worthwhile. I guess the only thing bad that can happen is that I will learn too much (hehe) and become addicted to bigger and better horns ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll! This message has been edited by dndphishin on 12-10-2001 at 06:02 PM

I have a similar situation with my new Velodyne CT-150. My placement preference is in one of two corners behind the mains (Cornwall IIs). The sub will be about a foot or so away from components in either corner - but I do have a choice as to which components the sub would be closest to. One side has the cable box/dvd/vcr, and the other will have the amp,receiver acting as a pre/pro, and two tape decks (I'm thinking this side is preferable - away from the DVD). The sub just got here (near hernia moving the package), and the timing of the original poster is right in time with an issue I have. The good news is that the components are on rock solid footing (brick) and will get less vibration through the floor, but with this beast, I'm not so sure if it will work, or if it's hard on the gear. What a great board - thanks so much for the info - this is an awesome resource! Gotta go, UPS just dropped an Academy at my door - gotta go check it out ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll! This message has been edited by dndphishin on 12-11-2001 at 11:33 AM

I sent you a PM - please read it ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

My first listen to a set of Klipsch was at an audio shop near Illinois State University. I remember being there with a friend who was purchasing a Nakamichi tape deck, and while he was finishing his purchase, the other salesman let me kill time by hearing these unusual, corner placed speakers (Klipschorns). I remember thinking that these weren't speakers - they're furniture! I was amazed, of course, but that's not what really sold me on Klipsch as a brand (I'm thinking that these are for folks who have endless cash to spend on audio - something that I would likely ever see). How I became sold on Klipsch is a different story! Fast forward 4 years: A service technician/friend who worked at the audio shop where I worked was shopping for a set of speakers that "would play at party levels - and do it clean". Nothing in our store would do, so he bought a set of Klipsch Fortes with an H/K PM665 integrated amp (one of H/K's last dual power transformer units at 150 WPC) and BLEW THEM - in three days! I know you are thinking he abused them - but not beyond the clean power of the amp. The salesman brought out a set of Cornwall II's to his home - the salesman wasn't too happy - but the sound that came out of these big boys was nothing short of impossible! Slamming, rock concert quality! Loud and clean - something that I thought did not exist in a home model. I could hear them four blocks down the street at the gas station - and my friend has a stack of letters from complaining residents about the "noise". I'm like eq shalimar on this board (nice sig on your posts too, buddy!) - I really enjoy the true rock concert sound of the Klipsch - but then again, anything you play through them sounds great. The speakers still play as well now as they did then, even after all of that pounding over the years. I spent 12 years wanting a set of Heritage Klipsch - and I finally got a pair of Cornwall IIs of my own, thanks to this board. I love them dearly! Ditka vs. Klipsch - it's a tie ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll! This message has been edited by dndphishin on 12-08-2001 at 09:10 AM

Same holds true here in Western Illinois - I'm always happy to spread the good word about my Cornwall II's. In a few weeks, the HT should be complete (my Outlaw 750 was on my doorstep when I got home today) and a Velodyne sub is on the way! Now if Outlaw can get me a 950 by Christmas......ooooohhh baby!!! I would love to show it off to our fellow forum participants. Our door is always open....... ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

Get the speakers that you really want, no matter if you wait a day, a month, or six months. If you don't, you'll spend a good portion of the time looking at the speakers you bought, wishing they were the RF-7's that you really like. Make absolutely sure you are happy as hell with your speakers...you will have to live with them for a long time. I spent 12 years pining for a set of Cornwalls, while settling for something else, and I finally got the Cornwalls. Best audio decision I have ever made. The Sony will work for now. Get the amp that you really want when you can afford that. Nothing wrong with doing this a step at a time. Overbuy on the receiver (as much as the budget will allow) when the time comes. Nothing wrong with having extra power. The Denons are nice units, haven't seen much of the recent Onkyo. I'm not a big fan of Sony receivers, unless it's the ES line (and still not my favorite). Buy quality gear that you know you can live with, and you will be happier with your setup. Speakers and Amp/Preamp/Receiver choices really will make the difference in your system. Choose wisely! It helps that you get a discount! Sometimes I wish I still had such ties to the business, just for the discounts alone. I don't miss the General Public aspect of the business, though.... I was out shopping for subs and heard the RF-7's today in a store, and they sound really good in a HT setup. Impressive! Good luck putting it together. ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

Hagood, even if you cannot find a seller in Texas, maybe you can locate a Heritage series owner down there that will let you listen to them. This will go a long way towards making a choice between the new and the old. Be warned though - Heritage speakers are very habit forming! I have a set of Cornwall II's and I absolutely love them. For some of us, only Heritage will do, for others, the newer offerings are preferable. You must listen to them - well worth the effort to get an education about the wonders of Heritage Klipsch speakers. Even if you end up not liking them, at least you will know. You may end up addicted though (it's wonderful) Any Texans on the board that can give Hagood a listen to their Heritage? Love those Dinosaurs ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll! This message has been edited by dndphishin on 12-06-2001 at 09:29 AM

It's the black version... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1305971220 ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

quote: Originally posted by boa12: hey dnd, what are u looking for that u don't already have w/ your avr75? DTS? more features? more power? all of the above? 1) More power is the first consideration. I want lots in reserve, for all five channels. It seems the surround channel amps are never really enough in a/v receivers. Extra power is always good 2) Once the power upgrade is finished, I'll be in a better position to evaluate the H/K as a pre/pro. The H/K does use the older surround processor chips (not the Crystal chips) and I will be curious how the H/K performs as a pre/pro. This can wait, and likely will, but I thought I would get some opinions on pre/pros while I am inquiring about amps, especially with the attractive closeout deals, and the impending release of the Outlaw. I will say, however, that I do want a first rate cinema performance (to the extent that the budget will allow), even though surround will only be used about a third of the time. ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

I'm looking at upgrading to 5 Channels of separate amplification in my system, in one of two configurations. One way would be to use my existing Harman/Kardon AVR 75 as a preamp, the other thought was to replace the preamp entirely, to get the most sound quality out of the upgrade. I am curious if it is a problem using an amp that is five channels in one chassis in a system that only uses two of those channels full time (movies/surround features will only be used 25% to 35% of the time, for movies and other surround encoded material - but not for music only). It is more cost effective to buy five channels in one chassis, instead of buying a 3 and a 2 channel separately. I'm considering the Acurus A200X5 and the Outlaw 750 (both available for $1100). Any thoughts? The choice of preamp/processor is more mind boggling. I need a unit for 5.1 Dolby Digital playback of DVD's, and occasional VHS and Broadcast TV playback. Otherwise, I want a clean, musical unit that plays music well in two channels. I don't envision going to additional surround channels over the five - two Cornwalls and three Heresys will take up enough room as it is. I'm looking at an Acurus ACT3 ABM (seems to be a great sounding unit, albeit somewhat limited in surround features) and the Harman/Kardon Signature 2.0. Both are available for $800 (closeouts on both). A third option is to wait for the new Outlaw to be released ($899). Looking for a little direction here - Any advice/thoughts? Thanks in advance.... As you can see, my recent aquisition of my Cornwall II's has given me the upgrade bug ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

The difficulty you are having here is efficiency - the LaScalas will blow away most bookshelf speakers to the point where the bookshelf speakers won't be heard. I have a similar concern with my Cornwall II's. I am looking to find surround speakers that will match up with them well. Those models will be either Heresys, Quartets, Fortes, Choruses, or another set of Cornwalls. Heresys are a more space saving choice, and the lowest cost option of the five - they will cost 400 per pair and up, and that's used. Bottom line.....you want a Klipsch Heritage model of some kind to use as surrounds (one of the above listed choices). Otherwise, it is unlikely that you will really be happy with the surround sound. None of these will fall into the $150 price category though - it would be worthwhile to try to increase the budget, even if it means waiting a bit. You'll be much more pleased with the results. Maybe some in the group have other suggestions, but that's my take on it. Dave ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

Glad to see someone here got them. Posting this was the least I could do, I found my Cornwalls through this board. ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1299386991 As of the time of this posting, seller is offering "buy it now" for $1600.00. California seller. ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

Success!!! I hit the jackpot today - I received an E-mail offering up a mint pair of Cornwall II's. They were less than three hours away, so I jumped in the truck and made the trek to the Chicago suburbs to check 'em out. They were as advertised, a 1989 mint pair of Cornwall II's. It is hard to believe that an article that is 12 years old could be in such condition. The owner had never moved them since the purchase 12 years ago - there is a very, very minor indent on a rear corner, and a spot or two, but my wife and I looked hard for those. 700 bucks! Simply a bargain! The seller knew what they were really worth too, but sold them to me anyway at that price with no negotiation - he seemed confident that I would appreciate them as much as he and his wife did. I will. I wish that every transaction I participate in would go as well. It was bound to be an adventure bringing them home in the topperless pickup truck though, as rain threatened in northern Illinois today. Me and the seller spent an hour wrapping the Cornwalls in multiple layers of blankets and plastic sheeting, then additional blankets on the truck bed, all of it loaded in my truck bed covered in tarps and tied down. Fortunately, only a few light sprinkles on the way home - the Cornwalls made it here in the same condition that they left Chicago. There was no chance of waiting until tomorrow to hook them up for a test run. Like a kid on Christmas morning, I was doing it today! They sound AWESOME!!!!! The Harman/Kardon 70 watt amp drives them well - more sound than I know what to do with. Simply jaw dropping. It is really an experience to own speakers of such quality - I have never owned any speaker that even comes close to this. I spent three years drooling all over a friend's pair (until he moved to Florida) - now I can drool on my own pair! Thanks for the leads I have received from you listers! This board has been very helpful; in only just a few short days of investigation I've gotten up to speed on what's up in the world of Klipsch these days, and I landed a set of wonderful speakers. It's fun to converse with similarly obsessed music lovers too - I'll still be browsing the boards. Just because I found what I was looking for doesn't mean that I won't still be hanging around! Proud to be a Klipsch owner Dave Text ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

They didn't last...I called about them Saturday afternoon, Nov 17, and they were sold. I was even plotting my schedule to go there from Illinois to pick them up, (I'll drive to get them)! Oh well, the search continues.... ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!

This is my first post to the list after lurking for about a week. What a find to bump into a group of like minded Klipsch freaks! This seems the perfect place to begin the pursuit of a pair of Chorus or Cornwalls, as I do have a few questions. The Obvious: I'm looking for a used set of Chorus or Cornwalls. I live in Illinois and would like to see them, and avoid shipping hassles. I'll drive several hundred miles, if necessary. If this is inappopriate asking this here, I apologize. I did notice a few past posts regarding past sales, so I thought this would be OK. I actually called the Dallas Morning News ad about the Cherry Cornwalls for $500, even devising a plan ahead of time to schedule time off to go get them, and they were of course sold (big surprise)! Would a 70 WPC H/K AVR75 be adequate to run them effectively? I am aware that tube amps work the best with these speakers, but I got the H/K for a song, and have heard earlier H/K amps at 100W sound good with the Chorus II before. I just want to make sure that I won't be disappointed with that amp/speaker pairing. Is there any particular concerns that I should keep in mind when looking for these models? I read here that in general, the Chorus II is preferable to the Chorus, and the Cornwall is preferable to the Cornwall II. I'm sure I would be happy with any of the four, but I'm looking for some insight here from the group. I listen to rock and roll mostly, and these seem the ideal choice for me. I like the LaScalas too, but they are a bit large for the room. Thank you in advance for your collective knowledge. I look forward to being a Klipsch owner soon - hopefully very soon. ------------------ First we Rock, then we Roll!