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Audible Nectar

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  1. It's good to see you 🙂 I've made some system changes here (simplification) as I had what one would call "excess", after a bit of a forum hiatus myself. Remodeling, realigning, personally, financially, and in terms of system. Lots of changes.....but still very much Klipsch! Welcome back 🙂
  2. Start out by refreshing your crossovers - get new capacitors in them at minimum. Bob Crites (posts as BEC) can help you out on this on the lower cost end, DeanG on the "premium" end of the rebuild spectrum. THEN - Listen to your current kit with those refreshed crossovers for a time. Give it six months. Take any opportunity you get in the meantime to listen to a "big Heritage" system with GOOD tubes. This can be a set of Belle Klipsch, LaScala, or Klipschorn on a GOOD tube system. Then you'll know/hear if it's what you like (and a GOOD one - you will). I saved a LOT of money by not doing the "incremental upgrade" thing. Finally made a drive to an amp builder's place and heard a GOOD tube rig on a set of LaScalas, then I knew what I was gunning for and never looked back. You can, of course, experiment with lower cost tube gear and do the incremental upgrade thing, but it's really not the same sonically (but can be fun on the "journey/hobby" aspect). There will be some very alluring aspects of course but stuff that will also be missing. That said, the best investigation you will do here is getting out there and making trips to hear Heritage based systems on GOOD tubes. GOOD solid state, too, and then you'll know about that, too. Then, you'll know between your own ears whether that's what's right for you. No other way of doing this ever got me as far, and understanding what I was really chasing, until I did that. I then blew by all of the "mid-die" level stuff and went to the gears that made my Belles sing, and lived happily ever after 🙂
  3. What worked for me was a new set of crossover networks, as my 1976 Belle Klipsch networks were certainly tired (and FWIW I like the AA network, just using high quality parts) and a really good front end (amp and preamp). Belle Klipsch really like tube gear - where I’ve obtained the best results,, although I have used solid state to good effect as well, but they have always sounded best with tubes to my ears. My journey with my Bicentennial Belles always got better as I upgraded the parts all the way up the chain, from speaker to source. Crossovers, tube gear, caps in that tube gear, tubes in that tube gear....just get everything in the chain as clean as can be and the lovely ladies will reward you. Some acoustic treatment in the basement can’t hurt either, even cloth type decorations/hangings on the walls can make things more settled down if things get too “live” in the room.
  4. I bought a 30 tube, closely matched set of Penta Labs KT88SC not long after I got my VRDs and haven't looked back since. Add to that the old Valve Art KT100 20 pack I got for a relative song prior to that from AES and it's doubtful I will ever look at purchasing a KT88 tube again, save for lucking out into a deal for real vintage Tung-Sols. I'm on my second quad of the Penta KT88SC's in use out of that 30 pack in 10 years, and I could probably make a quad out of those eight combined total tubes already used if I lost one out of the current quad and really had to do that. Pretty reliable and long lasting in my book.....
  5. Marantz 8B is a wonderful amplifier, and if in proper electrical condition would work very well with the Chorus II. The Heritage line Klipsch and similar speakers work really well with quality tube amplification, and a Marantz 8B is certainly a quality amplifier if in proper electrical condition.
  6. Agree with this. So much to say but cannot.
  7. Stop me before I spend again🤣
  8. I thought the BS forum was shut down years ago.....
  9. They were not drop ins. The tweeter hole was about 1/16 of an inch, maybe 3/32 too narrow, had to file the opening to make them fit. Initial listening tests would indicate that they were worth the hassle, however. Apparently this is an issue on earlier models before CNC machines made the hole sizes absolutely consistent and perfect.
  10. Yes. Bought a pair for $260, they DO need another gasket or plywood surround made with a router (best method) to keep the woofer from slapping against the motorboard, as the gasket layer isn't as think as a Klipsch woofer like the K33 would have. There's a BUNCH of commentary on this around the forum, it's been no secret as to it's relative success, which is why I've had it in my list of upgrades for so long. Claude has posted graphs and all sorts of stuff on this.
  11. DSP 2X4HD and microphone arrived today, have RCA to XLR adapters and sub cable in from Monoprice. Let's see how "high maintenance" this gets, LOL. Might be a week or two getting to this project, the remodeling begins a week from Friday with a very important delivery and other remodel prep to take place beforehand.
  12. Got the tweeters and the woofers installed. Tweeters wasn't "drop in" - these required quite a bit of filing of the motorboards to get them to pop in, which was a challenge and an exercise in patience to be sure, but these tweeters are legit. Very extended without being piercing/irritating, gives very nice "air" with sweet, fast, and natural sound. I like !!!! The woofers (Eminence Kappa 15C) presented their own challenge - in addition to the extra gasket I had a woofer quit an hour into the first listening session 😨 Turned out that one of the leads shook itself off (thought I had that covered but missed checking that detail somehow on one of the leads) but WOW are these woofers good. More punch and a tighter bass, as well as more coherency in the midrange. I don't think they suffer in the depth department, either, I just think the tighter presentation and "boot in the chest" makes one focus on that aspect of their sound but I think these are a real hit. And at very reasonable cost, too. It's amazing how much "action" exists sonically in the woofers, not only the bass but so much of the midrange content is here, making them a really important and probably too overlooked part of the system. What I like most is that I've not moved so much away from the Klipsch sound that my speakers are no longer "Klipsch", just a more refined product. These are two reasonably priced upgrades that have been on my radar for some time, particularly for the 2 channel rig, and both achieved the desired results. This, combined with the AA modification to knock down the midrange 3db has the system in balance the way I think an accurate 2 channel rig should be. Once I get the new (to me) preamp here the 2 channel system should be in stasis for the foreseeable future, short of a tube roll or two (and I'm not sure I'll need to do much of that either as I have a good idea where that's going as well).
  13. The parts all got delivered, both the woofers and the tweeters, so as soon as I come up for air on the exterior and basement remodeling prep I'll get this stuff installed and give my facelifted Belles a go 🙂
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