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---------------- On 1/12/2005 9:21:30 AM JJKIZAK wrote: I have an old 1965 Cornwall 2Q you can have for $10.00. You won't like it though as it sounds like mud. And its 40 years old. It measures 11" x 5.5" x 1/2". It was replaced with a "DEAN" unit which totally blew it away. JJK ---------------- I'm not sure what you mean by a "Cornwall 2Q". Could you explain? Thanks, Mike

I've used a vacuum cleaner on several Klipsch dust covers over the years. I would recommend this as the most effective and cosmetically best method. Most vacs have a opening close to the end of the hose to regulate the suction, which is usually left closed and is opened to reduce suction on blinds, curtains and other delicates. Try it with full open first. If that works, great, if not keep closing until it does. Probably a good idea to start with a clean vac bag to have max suction available. If you're a nervous person (unsteady hands) find steady hands. Mike

Now, that wasn't so bad, was it!!! But, I think you held back something. Dean, tell us how you REALLY feel.

---------------- On 12/31/2004 2:44:19 AM DeanG wrote: i'd like to hear your unbiased opinions on the matter I don't have an unbiased opinion. Do you still want to know what I think? http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/images/smilies/1.gif"> ---------------- Yes I would!!

I think I undersand everything except the abreviation PIO. Mike

1985 was the transition year from Cornwalls (removable back) to the 2nd Cornwall II (non-removable back). It didn't happen on 01/01/1985. We all know that the concept of a specific model year change over was unknown @ Klipsch. For 1985 you just have to look at them to know. The serial number will not tell you. This eBay item: 5721350078 is of a 1985 Cornwall with removable back. This was in Sept so it may not be available for viewing for long.

Dean you are are a Scholar and a Gentleman! My Guess is 62 Mike

---------------- On 12/21/2004 9:07:56 PM William F. Gil McDermott wrote: My guess is that the 1961-62 switch in name (to the first instance of CW II) was because of an alteration in the woofer box. It might be that pre-'61 was with the rear slot loaded box as we see in an article by PWK and some photos of very old units. Then, maybe, PWK went to the big port in the front which was used for the rest of the series. Best, Gil ---------------- Gil, I agree, this is my thought/guess also. Mike

---------------- On 12/21/2004 5:17:55 PM staged2 wrote: Serial numbers 8522275 / 8522276 they have the removable back on the speakers. I was told that this could be a cornwall II even with the metal MId/Tweater metal and not front mounted. Help?? which ones do I have-just bought off ebay and was told they were definalty Cornwall I's?? Here is what was said: The I to II change apparently happened with the repositioning of the mid and tweeter (prior to 1977). some sellers of Cornwalls on ebay think the change occured in 1985 when the mid/tweeter horns went to composite (plastic) and all components were front mounted. ---------------- All dates are approximate!! And do NOT account for Special Orders. The concept of "Model Year" product changes was unknown at Klipsch. 19?? - 1961 Cornwall (serial numbers did not include letters) 1962 - 1974 Cornwall II (Tweeter & Midrange mounted Vertical) 1975 - 1985 Cornwall (Tweeter & Midrange mounted Horizontal) 1985 - 1990 Cornwall II (All drivers mounted from the front) 1985 was a transition year. So, if your Cornwall's drivers mount from the interior it is a Cornwall (not a Cornwall II). I hope this helps. Mike

---------------- On 12/17/2004 3:08:02 AM ricktate wrote: ................. Since the Cornwall is not airtight i dont think it needs a seal but you could just use window weather stripping.Rick ---------------- I have SERIOUS problems with this part of ricktate's statement. I hold the belief, that the Cornwall was designed with just ONE port. ANY other "openings" degrade the bass produced by the official port. The air pressure, sound or whatever you want to call it, produced by the backside of the woofer is meant to exit through the designed port. Anything else is a "Swiss Cheese Cornwall", with a resultant loss of bass. This loss may be so small as to be unhearable (but a loss none the less) or large enough to be detectable. Now I'm off my soap box, Mike

---------------- On 12/16/2004 9:18:28 PM colterphoto1 wrote: ....... The back stiffener is a doubling of thickness (usually 3/4 ply) glued and screwed to the inside back panel. It should be slightly small, NOT touching the side panels at all or it may buzz. While inside, there is a 1x2 or metal 'L' bracket bolted to front panel between woofer and squawker that stiffens up the motor board a bit. Good luck, Michael ---------------- Welcome, I know Michael just mis-spoke. The "back panel" stiffener should go on the "outside" screwed and glued. Otherwise, 1)you would significantly reduce the interior volume, 2) have to deal with moving the dampening material and 3) have to cut a hole in your new stiffener to accomodate the Midrange driver. Avoid screws in the area of the Midrange which should be touching the "back panel" currently. There is a correct picture in the thread he refers to by I. B. Slammin (I think). The reference to the "L" bracket is commonly called angle iron. You can also use a 23" x 1" x 2" piece of Hardrock Maple, milled very smooth on the 1" side. The brace should go on the motorboard halfway between the woofer and the midrange. The thread Michael refers to is good, but not all inclusive. I'm reasonably sure it does not mention the use of felt to seal the back panel. I have been giving serious thought to how to seal the back panel for sometime (which I believe can be a serious problem depending on the individual speaker). Felt, as you mentioned, is one of the viable solutions I settled on. However, I have been unable to find felt thick enough (IMHO) to do the job. I think it should be about 1/8" thick, 1' wide and be attached to the back panel. I want the extra 1/4" to be inside the enclosure and for practical purposes uncompressed. If you have a source for the felt I would appreciate a hint. I'm currently considering using "Sill Plate" foam, which is what builders use between the concrete foundation and the first 2x4 plate. Enough to do 5 Cornwalls is $3.47 @ HD. Good2BHome

---------------- ....... BTW, does anyone know where to buy replacement gaskets for 15 inch woofers. I've move so many around and sealed them that I've messed up the fiber. Best, Gil ---------------- Gil, Please tell me all about "sealed them" (maybe to included, but not limited to: why, what Klipsch speaker(s), with what sealer, etc.) Thanks, Mike

Great stuff!! Thanks DeanG and Tom. Just a comment for others interested, there are four (4) seperate pages to the document. I was able to download all four. Mike

Dodger said: "eBay is not supposed to list full addresses - only to the Seller. I have mentioned this before - HOW are the scammers getting your full address." I've received several of these 2nd chance scam offers over the last several years! ALL looked BOGUS!! BUT, I ask the same question: "HOW ARE THE eBay SCAMMERS GETTING MY EMAIL ADDRESS" ???? Mike

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---------------- On 12/10/2004 6:57:01 PM Seadog wrote: Cheap local K-horns don't come along very often (darn, darn, darn)! Hopefully one of the DFW Hornheads got those. If so, someone needs to host a listening event! ---------------- David, This would be your second, but I'm not counting! Mike

Russ, Yes the "R" stands for Raw. This means you can finish them in anything you want and they are still authentic !! Only an opinion, I would finish them in a poly that does not yellow. It's a durable and clear finish. Mike

Quick reflexes Russ and a great wife. There is NO better combination!!! Is the Mahogany still raw? Mike

---------------- On 12/7/2004 6:45:03 AM djk wrote: Looks like a custom EV 1828 made for Klipsch, 1-1/2" coil. ---------------- djk thanks for chiming in, Any idea(s) on the time frame this may have occurred and/or someone a Klipsch that would know? Mike

Gilbert, Good2 thinks "You Done Good"!! Great job, I saw the original pictures of the tops and they were bad. Maybe one day you'll have an open house and invite some of us in the area. Mike aka Good2

I appreciate the response. I was aware of the provided thread via a previous search. I've attempted to attach a picture of the K-56 in question. Inaddition, below is the important part of the thread by John Albright: "djk knows what they are. I believe they were an experiment, of sorts, by Atlas to build "better"(cheaper?) K-55-V. Atlas changed something and I don't think Mr. Paul liked it. The K-56 may have led to the souring of the business relationship. I wish I could remember the story." The previous thread was referring to use in Herseys. I'm looking for more definitive information, since I saw it used in a 1974 Cornwall, and it makes me wonder?? Mike

Gilbert, Very nice refinish job and pictures!!! Did you do the refinishing yourself? What did the TYPE on the Crossovers turn out to be? I'd love to see any other pictures you took of these beauties!! Mike

---------------- On 12/4/2004 8:16:49 AM joessportster wrote: hello the original woofer is a square magnet k33, the other is not even a klipsch woofer it is an off brand sounds decent but im kinda anal about my gear and want all original there is a guy on ebay selling the remains of a set of k-horns, and he has the woofers with the square magnets but i cant tell if they are k-33 pics are to fuzzy , is the k-33 the only woofer they used..... Joe ---------------- To answer the questions you ask: In 1977 the square K-33 is the correct woofer and is for about the years 1967 to 1983. In 1977 it was a K33E I believe. Ask eBay sellers any question you have, if in doubt ask for a picture(s). The CWB indicates these have a walnut veneer, but there was a flaw in it so they were painted black (or possibile the original buyer may have ordered them black, but unlikely in 1977) If you have other questions let me know.

Here is the link to the story on Yahoo News. The story also states that eBay bought craiglist in November. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&e=2&u=/nm/20041203/tc_nm/tech_ebay_dc

Joe, Which Texas Cornwalls did you buy? Mike