Dave A

I like 12g 300' spools from Monoprice for $90 delivered when on sale. Nice flexible small stranded wire with a clearly visible tracer.

From what I understand a lot of the newer stuff has been mixed for people who use earphones and ear buds and not for speakers that can tell good from bad.

I prefer to think of it as a multi tool work bench storage area and audio engine. I am going to make the S MWM and use tan color tinted Duratex on it so I won't have to pretend to feel guilty about all that dust. I figure the tan will look good no matter how dusty.

All pro gear from the KPT-456 level and up.

This is true but my comment was not made with you specifically in mind. Next Friday I hope to have something done here you might like.

True Claude but sometimes people mix delusion with illusion and then you get confusion.

OK here is one that will hurt your ears and your sensibilities. Water resistant too!! And for those days you are out and about we have https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-mini-sound-Toy-pistol-gun-card-mini-speaker-portable-mp3-player-flat-small-stereo/1530698093.html

This is the most amusing thread I have ever read here. In between some snippets of information we have long digressions into opinion some of which are based on experience and some on I am always right because I am. Destined to set perhaps one of the highest read counts in a long time and all started by one hive mind NPC who knows because he knows and you don't, just ask him.

You done went an made ODS NPC right mad Dean. Now you get to hear about it for the next 6 pages.

On occasion there are little lead objects that help prepare them for the oven.

Amen to that. Got a music library in from a guy I know and most of the albums were 70 to 80mb. Spent time with Audacity trying to make it sound good but most are just going to get deleted as hopeless.

Interesting point. In manufacturing there is something known as tolerance stack up. It means that all the little within 1% or 5% or even 10% tolerance things add up and when bad enough even though it passes inspection it is not as good as one that was say 1% tolerance or less all the way through. On any given piece of gear especially with electrolytic capacitors and inductors if they use 10% tolerance that is + and - so variance can be significant and still get out the door. I have a hand full of .1mh air coils here and all of them even though the claim was for modern tight tolerances test 5 to10% out.

Funny thing about welfare bums. The more you feed them the more there are that show up.

OK here is the pair. The plywood on the crossovers has the top ply picking out on places. Otherwise what you see is the condition on all sides and these have not been dropped nor under serious abuse that I can see. Cabinets are dirty but in very good condition. Last two pics are examples of Dave not being able to control himself when the ogre of used speakers rears his ugly head. With the S-MWM's coming I am going to start cleaning out some of this. I promise as a New Years resolution to not buy more fixers until what I have here is fixed. I have some Altec A-7's that are good project speakers and if you are interested PM me. I may decide not to complete them and just sell off what I have as is.

I think a big part of the problem with pro gear being blown up is the 20amp fuses Klipsch sent out with their speakers. They did this because field techs complained about changing fuses in hard to get to places so they and Klipsch decided the right way would be to make sure you controlled output electronically. Some sound guys would load them up more and more as the crowd shouted louder and then the inevitable happened. I can only imagine the volume levels you are dealing with.

Had to laugh re-reading your comment this morning. Had a guy over to buy other speakers and of course everyone wants to hear the big boys when we are done with the speakers they came to see. Had them at what I thought was a moderate level and we were talking without struggling to do so. He had a db ap on his iPhone and with surprise on his face he showed me 98db. It is just so effortless you are up there in db before you know it. I probably need to get a db meter just to protect myself and I bet I play louder than I think.

For the price you pay and the sound you get nothing beats vintage pro IF you can find them. I recently picked up four complete sets of KPT-456's and two were gone before I got back home with them and the others will probably sell without being listed at all to standing orders for those. Going to EBay in a couple of weeks after I finish the S MWM set and it will be more there. If you have never heard a set of these and get a chance to don't turn it down. I stop to listen to these every day unless I am out of pocket. One thing I do ask with these to anyone interested is that you preserve the set. I can't make you do it but I am asking you to because these are getting quite scarce and are the pinnacle of what Klipsch made years ago. In it's day you could buy no better speaker and today you can only beat it with Klipsch current top of the line cinema speaker systems.

Klipsch sold these in two basic versions. This is one and complete and the other added an additional mid range horn for extreme output. So basically the stacks came in three and four piece configurations. The other notable variation is the tweeter assembly could have either a stack of five piezo drivers, not good, or a four way manifold with K-77-M drivers which was the best one. MCM1900good (1).pdf

The picture is one of two. They have OEM Klipsch passive crossovers if that is what you are asking. One 2 channel amp runs it all.

Oh he can talk about any of them he wishes. I figure it would be, ah well lets just say amusing.

$2500. They are available any time and as jwc asked there will be pictures in a day or so.

It will be a day or two since I have to clean it off. The junk on them that is since the valuable dust will go with them. I do have one picture though.

The only thing that will beat this is another one with the newer horns on it as far as I am concerned. Unless you are building an SMWM and then sticking a horn on that. You have to admit those La Scalas make nice book shelf speakers though.

This has the K-77 tweeter setup and not the piezo's. It has a Klipsch OEM crossover which has been recapped. This is in great shape except for the theater and shop dust which goes free with the stacks. I want to make space for my upcoming Super MWM build and will no longer need these. If you have the space these are beyond superb and once you hear a set of these you too will be ruined for life. PM me regarding these.

Hey ODS123, did those testers make any recommendations regarding what capacitors to use in their setup? I know those can make a big difference in how the amp sounds.