Dave A

I can't imagine there will be any discernible audio difference. This is as far as I am concerned purely for looks. Now I have to admit I do like them and they will be a better look for Black Walnut and Red Oak veneer speakers since I can match them at least for wood type appearance. The downside is durability and resistance to potential damage. I am going to make the screw holes deeper for the wood horns to resist pull out. If you ever strip these by doing the gorilla tightening thing there is probably not enough meat there for a helicoil repair. I am going to cut so wood grain is parallel to the long axis to resist splitting at the horn to cabinet screw holes. All in all I think the wood lenses will be plenty strong enough unless someone abuses them.

Can I go big and stay home? Picked up my 402 horns today!

I figure that La Scala type bin construction would be a real improvement but guys who know more than I do say it would not be enough to warrant the work.

The more I think f doing this the less excited I am. If it is to be a horn the Super MWM is the one for me. Otherwise the KPT-456's are so much better than La Scalas that I would build a variant of the 456 before any La Scala type cabinet. What was the end result of these? Did he measure them to know what they really did?

Never heard a full orchestra but the chamber music was fabulous. Maybe you should try that next time.

So we are back to deflection and changing the topic and here I thought you wanted to "stay on track". Please reread the Cornwall vs Pro thread and refresh your memory of the ridicule you placed on the pro gear you have never heard before. Do you really want me to go back and quote them all here? MDF falls flat on it's own lack of merit which evidently is not a concern of yours. I know this will be hard for you but generally companies list the advantages of their products from the best to the least in that order. Did you notice that Klipsch listed A/V environments first? Would you consider home theaters as audio visual and stereo setups as perhaps audio? See you did say Klipsch Pro stinks once again. Your clear inference is this is where Pro belongs and it is a continuous thread in all your comments. You would never denigrate your pristine audio environment with such stuff is what comes through all the time. It is clear you look down on pro then go on to say you may have never heard it as evidence of the validity of your baseless opinion. I am very happy you have no biases although your comments sometimes seem very clinical and sterile. NO I was quoting your quote from OD

Forgot that line was in there. 🤣 I have to sign out now. Those 402 horns at the junk store in Atlanta are calling and I must leave. Say do you suppose many years ago they argued about capacitor wood tone and audiophile grade horse hair bow strings?

But Dean we are having fun. Maybe the OP will get us back on track.

Or the two hundred year old horse hair or whatever they make them from. Nah, probably new horse hair.

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You got me. One of my Cello recordings has a note on the side that it was played with a $100,000 dollar bow🙄. Now I have had some professional musicians here and they hear instruments I do not, like triangles, and I am not sure what else they hear I do not regarding technique and subtle tonal things. It was fascinating to watch the interplay between these chamber musicians as they would cue each other and make sure all were ready.

I figure this will be my (probably) last system as there are not too many places left to go after this. You know you are welcome to stop in if you are anywhere in the area one day.

Hey Dean to bad you are not closer. I am picking up a set of 402's in Atlanta tomorrow and should have my Super MWM's built end of second week of January. With 106" of throat I guess I will have to enter the world of DSP and dual amps. Now THAT will be a steam engine reproducer for sure.

His OPINION, based on conjecture and in the case of Pro gear nothing he has chosen to actually listen to, supercedes the knowledge many of us have acquired through personal research and actual listening. Now if I can clearly see he has dismissed an entire line of Klipsch production as being inferior without any experience with them what am I to make of all these things he says about other stuff? Personally I want to hear everything Klipsch that I can. I have gone through a ton of Klipsch gear both Pro and Vintage because I wanted to KNOW what they sounded like. Some things like KHorns and Belles I have not had here but I can talk to people who have had some of the speakers I have and have also owned those KHorns and Belles and get their educated real world opinions and we both know what we are talking about because of common ownership and listening experience. How can you possibly explain stereo to a guy who walks around with a finger in one ear all the time and this is the problem here. OD is right about train stations though. I have an old well done steam engine recording and you can feel the steam and smell the coal as it drives by on those MCM's. Almost like you were really there as the ground shakes.

James do you have any experience with Mulberry, Black Locust, Persimmon or Osage Orange? PM me if you do please.

Read the Best Cornwall thread from 11-15. All the way through would be best. ODS123 said Pro gear belonged in amusement parks even though he has never heard any and dumped on Pro hard enough that the Chief chimed in with comments and you can read it all there and draw your own conclusions. You know what mine are.

Remember this is the guy that said Bonehead did not know what he was doing.

Pile O Stuff

I am with Oldtimer on this. My favorite finish is from Satin Spar polyurethane. Does not show smudges and fingerprints like glossy nor reflect lights so starkly. Still quite transparent and all the wood detail shows through.

I went junk shopping this past week They had this at the dig store.

I went to hear a chamber group of five musicians last year. Three Violas and two Cellos and these were members of the Charlotte Symphony Orchestra. To be able to hear unamplified music of that caliber is the finest reference to assess what your system does for true to life audio. I do not want warm tubes or mellow crossover capacitors I want true to life audio reproduction. I want to always be able to sit on that third row and listen to those Violas and Cellos.

Slow response time. Don't know how I overlooked this. Simple you tell your wife it is for the second set of speakers you just bought.

Now that is an answer and covers every base. Thanks for this reply.

What is the grille material, wire cloth?

Tinkering around with the tweeters on the MCM 1900 this past week and being shocked at how such comparative low wattage output can have such a significant effect on the aggregate out put of these. So my question is why do high frequencies so readily pierce vastly larger wattage mid and bass speaker output?