RoboKlipsch

In the demo i got the sound balance was perfect. Stand in same room facing backwards and listen to hear if the bias shifted with u or not?

Of current Klipsch subs, I think you'd be looking at the R115SW. I have no experience with the PSA subs personally but know they get great reviews. SVS makes very nice subs, and the larger ported ones are probably perfect for your HT needs. HSU makes a lot of 15" subs also, but personally I was not all that impressed.

Yes. They are a sealed unit and come with a keyhole mount on the backside. It may seem a bit scary hanging something by one peg/nail/screw but you can hang a lot more than that especially using a stud.

When the three up front are exactly what was designed (the RC62), the sound is as close as you're going to get to having 3 fronts that are the same, which is considered ideal scrappydue has used just about every speaker around also so he's suggesting from experience...not specs

Video is awesome beautifully done

Derrick after about an hour of playing around with them....OMG I love these things! LOL they are awesome. Once I lowered the level a bit it reached that spot where it feels like the sub playing the notes. I completely understand about how low it plays. With my wiring setup I think the max they could get is 30 watts each, and I don't even think they need that much, they seem to be set to a level about 1/4 or 1/3 on the volume knob. I'm using an amp with a low pass filter at 80hz, and the sub signal is also crossed at 60hz front, center and 80hz surrounds. For a high pass filter, would an FMOD work and not cause any sound issues? I've seen ones at 20hz or 25hz at partsexpress.

Interesting amplifier I'm using. The manual ( ) says it is: 120watts/2 channels into 8 ohms, .02thd 120watts/2 channels into 4 ohms .08thd 100 watts/5 channels into 8 ohms When I was testing the units, I used one channel from each of the two sets of front channels (L/R, L2/R2). it worked no problem. When I attempted to plug in both of the front channels of just one set of speakers, rated to 4 ohms (or 8), it shutdown with an OVERLOAD message When I went back to using 1 channel each from the 2 different sets of fronts (set to 8ohms), and wired the 4 shakers into 2 sets of 2 for the inputs, worked like a charm Maybe someone with electrical knowledge would know why? _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The shakers are up and running , it was a 5 hour ordeal due to the couch with 2 recliners having so many moving parts. The center space was easy, but the two sides with recliners had all kinds of issues with the seat combined with the shaker bottoming onto the metal frame parts. I experimented with attaching to the back of the chair but it did not have nearly the shake as doing what derrick suggested. Eventually I got them all wired up, one per seat on the couch (MLP), and one attached to one of the 2 chairs in the space (one on each side, only one has the shaker). My initial impression is WTF! Fun and crazy, like having a giant PS4 or XBOX controller that I'm sitting on. I isolated the couch using 8 rubber rectangles about an inch or so thick. I used 2 crude SPL meters on my phone, and amazingly they DO have that sub type rumble and some SPL. I pseudo-calibrated the shakers to about 6db less than the sub using the main amps test tone. Unbelievable I would have never guessed! It's likely just a tad too high...lowering it a bit I can tell it could become subtle yet awesome, an effect. I think gaming may benefit as much or more than even HT. My first thought with music is it would work turned down to a much lower level.

Although I clearly hear your question and know you want an answer, I'd still like to say take a step back, deep breath on this. The speakers themselves are fine, they should and will do the job just right once everything is setup properly. The first and easiest thing to try (imo) is to calibrate it again. It's really important the microphone is properly placed....not set upon something heavy that reflects a lot, not up against the couch cushions themselves either. The second thing to do is to move the surrounds along with the couch itself. You will/would not believe how much of a difference position will make. In my 2nd theater, moving the left surround forward one foot changed it from can't hear anything to incredible awesome sound. I'm not talking about vertical height here either. That is important, but is not your current problem. The problem is the listening position is not hearing the surround speakers, or not hearing them well. If you get to step 2 above, try moving the couch forward and back a little to see if you can hear them better. If that doesn't work, try putting the speakers on boxes or something you can elevate them on and search for positions where they sound very good. They exist. Just don't worry for now about *HOW* you will mount them wherever they sound good. You first must find a place that they sound good, then compromises can be made accordingly. I'm still not totally clear on where they are now, and where the main couch is relative to them. Can you take a picture or two or refer to the ones above as to which are current? Hang in there, relax a bit, the equipment is fine. It seems frustrating because you want it setup right now, but trust me, with a little testing you'll get there. The height is important, but not your current problem. At most heights you should still be able to get a good sound from them. It's the position of them relative to the listening position that is likely off. But first, again, run calibration and if need be, a couple times to be sure that isn't the problem.

Well I couldn't figure out how to hook it up and get all 5 channels, but by using a splitter and the phono input, I can use both sets of front channels for 4. If I end up ever getting more shakers, I can wire sets of 2 or 4 in order to use more.

If not autocal u need to try other positions for the surrounds. They are not themselves the problem. Bshelves may sound more directional but the bipolars arent causing the muffle by their nature alone.

If you are using autocalibration like Audyssey, it may be that the microphone was not positioned well. That happened to me a few times and muffled the sound.

I am taking the signal from either the subwoofer out on the amp, or from the sub itself. When I take that RCA cable and plug it into the receiver I have (5x100watts), how can I input the signal such that the receiver would allow me to output it to all 5 channels? Can I? Thank you, RK

Looking at sold RSW10s, I see that this one had sold in the exact same listing back on Feb 3. What happened I don't know, but anybody looking to purchase this should inquire about it and ask what happened.

My limited understanding of hearing loss is that there is only so much compensation that the brain and ear can provide to make up for loss due to loud volumes. After enough damage, which is generally considered permanent, some are left with hearing loss, tinnitus, or other issues. My caution would be that if you are doing ANYTHING that causes you to have temporary hearing loss, you are likely listening too loud...even if that volume is one that you are used to and feel is OK. That particular range of frequencies is almost for sure where the damage has occured. You get one set of ears in this life, and although there are aids you don't want to use them any sooner than necessary. Also, as you know tinnitus can be a particularly awful experience if it becomes severe enough. Get it checked out ASAP and don't listen to anything that triggers the problem until you do. You've got a lot of listening left to do in this life!

This one is local pickup only, so the risk should be lower, but again it's not me! The price is so good that I thought it was worth a post.

Feet are missing....LOL refer to my subwoofer thread to learn why you want to be sure to add them if you bought this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KLIPSCH-RVX-54S-Stereo-Tower-Speakers-in-SILVER-PAIR-and-RSW10-subwoofer-/172172362361?hash=item281645c279:g:m2YAAOSwt6ZWVPr- no affiliation, but the RSWs always seem to be a hot commodity

Will do and thank you again. I actually decided to try Dayton's own TT . They claim they are also rated 50W, are built stronger and better than the competition, have only a very small peak at 30 and have a nice flat response rated (?) down to 10hz. I figured why not give them a shot? As for the amp, I definitely can understand the INUKE being a better option and if necessary will switch over. It's just that the INUKE would cost more than the TT, so to start I felt it was better to see what I get without spending the extra $$$. Should arrive by tomorrow and be installed within a day of that!

Either elevate the center channel to just below the bottom of the set pointing up towards the position, or above the TV pointing down towards the position. If you had a choice, choose the one that requires the least angle to reach your ears. If the TV is somehow right in the middle of your ears (top to bottom), then pick either and try it. Easier to elevate the speaker on a stand, box or something to start than it is to mount it and angle it downwards on a shelf or the like from above.

Ebay....used rc62. My 2c. With patience u can get one bn 200 and 300

Ordered 4 for the couch! I will try out the JVC to start and make a switch if I have problems. Not that I don't want that INuke control, but 2bills is more than the TTs....got start small and see where it goes. Thanks so much for all the answers and experience derrick. I turned over the couch, it actually has 4 spots I think I can mount it to the frame, isolate the couch with some heavy rubber feet and be good to go. If the frame doesn't give the right feedback I will make up the seat ones as you suggested. I'm sure these are famous last words...but I think this is my last add to the system for a while, it's just about what I want RK

Thanks again Derrick! And to anybody else who has tried them, please feel free to share any experiences or preferences you have Derrick I realized I have an old JVC amp, 100x5 that I'm not using and that isn't worth much trying to sell it. It's capable of 4 ohm, but with 5 channels I figure it doesn't really matter, does it? I can just hook up one per channel, and make sure not to turn it too high. Any issues with going this route? The sub out from my Denon already is set to crossovers of 60hz front/center and 80hz surrounds, and then 80hz LFE. Would I need or want any mod with that output? I'm ready to pull the trigger here, getting pumped about yet another feature

The best answer is that you need to go to a store and demo them both, and pick for yourself. If you were to look through the signature of the members here, you would note that the vast majority of them have floorstanding speakers as their mains.

Did tying the board to the bottom of the seats/cushions change the seating comfort? Can I ask how many cords/ties were used to attach to the wire framing? I'm happy just to give the whole idea a try, I'm sure it's a fun experience. Really cool to hear the Aura's are enough...if someone with 6 18" subs is happy with them, me and my one sub should be blown away. Rk

To clarify then...you bolted the units to the board, and then each board was zip corded to the underside of the metal framing under the cushion. Let me know how much of the underside of the seat is covered by the board....i.e. 50%, 75% etc please. How much power to you allow into the units and do you use most of it? Thanks derrick